Catholics & Catholicism

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Blackmer) writes: :   : Barry : If you do go to church say a prayer for my father who is ill with a head injury. : Thanks Dear Jesus, who art in heaven. Bless this man. Make his head fixt. FIXIT GOD! YOU DUMBASS! FIX HIS HEAD OR I’LL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOU! I MEAN IT! I’LL KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOUR POMPOUS ASS GOD AND YOU WON’T BE SMILING THEN!! Bless my fire-truck. Bless my shoes. Bless my mommy, her don’t smoke crack. Fix his head again god. Amen.            Love,            Steven Blackmer QPM —

you see the pagan joke on MAD t.v.?? It was a joke impersinating MCI & AT&T( w/ MCE & AT&B…or something…) anyhow, this girl was saying,   " You tell us to….put it in writing….well, we’ll do better than that! We’ll swear to it on the holy bible…." and then the fake commercial ends & they say, " AT & B…..STOP DEALING WITH PAGANS ! " It was soooooo funny ! It was funny, ‘cuz the girl was the " little miss church goin’ type, " and AT & B is supposidly big….right….but they deal with pagans ( not church-goers )….! Oh….if you didn’t see it you missed a hot one!                          Nella                    ( not the comments of Pan’s Grove….just mine                        Morgan…..hello    :0

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 I of course- faced with the second coming of Christ, nailed his feet down this time ’cause he kicked a lot.  But I didn’t get a lot out of it- the religious freaks have never believed in foreplay.  It’s as if their presence should be enough to make me swoon. Two thousand years later and not much has changed…eh girls? No shit…I had to stab the fucker in the side just to get him to shut up. Now I can’t die. —

*sigh* Ok, to quote a cartoon I have a gif of,     "He’s BACK! Even the Grave couldn’t stop him! He’s after        you, and he wants your SOUL!"        mark

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I Hope Some Of You Go To Church This Week And Accept Jesus Christ Into Your Heart. He Died On The Cross To Forgive Your Sins, No Matter How Terrible, As Long As You Just Ask Him To. I quite agree and am doing my part by sinning as much as I can. God has a response to you, barry: Rom 6:1-4 "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

This response isn’t to Barry; it’s to Christians. Sure, once Barry is baptized into death, you’ll have a point. But Barry’s still in the sinning stage, and how can we fault him for milking it for all it’s worth? — Toby

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Islam in general has been a very tolerant religion, allowing Jews, Christians, and who knows who else to practice their religions in Islamic regions.  As is the way of the late 20th century, though, Islam too is disappearing up its own fundamentalists.

 "Relatively tolerant" would be accurate, not "very". While the Koran teaches tolerance of Christians and Jews, Pagans are to be converted at sword-point. There’s a strong distinction in Islam between the "peoples of the Book" and heathens like me.  -Steve

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: Islam in general has been a very tolerant religion, allowing Jews, : Christians, and who knows who else to practice their religions in Islamic : regions.  As is the way of the late 20th century, though, Islam too is : disappearing up its own fundamentalists. :  "Relatively tolerant" would be accurate, not "very". While the Koran : teaches tolerance of Christians and Jews, Pagans are to be converted at : sword-point. There’s a strong distinction in Islam between the "peoples : of the Book" and heathens like me. :  -Steve True enough. — Michael

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: Islam in general has been a very tolerant religion, allowing Jews, : Christians, and who knows who else to practice their religions in Islamic : regions.  As is the way of the late 20th century, though, Islam too is : disappearing up its own fundamentalists. : Granted that this is true in some things but you have to bear in mind the : huge military attempts at conquering Europe, and the successful : destruction of the Byzantine Empire and the Vandal kingdom of North : Africa.  I’m afraid the fact is that the kind of violent conversion : practiced by the Christians in Europe was practiced by the muslims in : Africa, the Middle-East and Asia.  Then there are islam’s attitudes to : women, which are not the product of 20th century fundamentalism but are : described unambiguously in the qu’ran.   These were usually wars of conquest and not of conversion.  There were even entire brigades made up of people of other faiths.  The way of Islam during those conquering wars was to let folks alone if they coughed up their cash and obeyed.  A generalization, but all I was arguing was that Islam was less desirous of unconverted souls than Christianity. As far as Islam’s other positions go, I’ve read their damned book too and find it just as silly as the others.  More readable than those endless begats though, and heaven is a lot nicer. — Michael

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Islam in general has been a very tolerant religion, allowing Jews, Christians, and who knows who else to practice their religions in Islamic regions.  As is the way of the late 20th century, though, Islam too is disappearing up its own fundamentalists.

Granted that this is true in some things but you have to bear in mind the huge military attempts at conquering Europe, and the successful destruction of the Byzantine Empire and the Vandal kingdom of North Africa.  I’m afraid the fact is that the kind of violent conversion practiced by the Christians in Europe was practiced by the muslims in Africa, the Middle-East and Asia.  Then there are islam’s attitudes to women, which are not the product of 20th century fundamentalism but are described unambiguously in the qu’ran.   If islam had conquered Europe (prevented at different points in time by people such as Karl Martel, Karol "the Great" [i.e. Charlemagne], Vlad Tepes and John III of Poland) doubtless heavy metal kids today would be singing songs such as "Fuck Allah" and this might be alt.shai’tan with a crossposting to alt.khufr, alt.mohamednet.second-coming.real-soon.now. Think about it. Kullervo

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: What is so bad about Christians in particular? Seems to me all : monotheistic religions have the bad traits you describe. : : Absolutely.  The muslims are pretty bad too.  The jews on the other hand : do not prosyletise so that earns them in brownie points in my book… : Kullervo. Islam in general has been a very tolerant religion, allowing Jews, Christians, and who knows who else to practice their religions in Islamic regions.  As is the way of the late 20th century, though, Islam too is disappearing up its own fundamentalists. — Michael

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What is so bad about Christians in particular? Seems to me all monotheistic religions have the bad traits you describe.

I think two things make xtianity stand out from other monotheistic faiths.  The first is simply that xtianity is an extremely powerful faith which has always been closely linked to politics in the western world.  And although the day has long passed when the pope could command kings, he can still prevent issues like overpopulation and women’s rights from being debated by the UN.  He can also prevent the use of condoms in countries where AIDS is epidemic.  In general, xtianity is still one of the strongest political powers in the world, which makes it extremely oppressive to many people.  To be sure not all xtians are catholic, but it seems to me that nearly all xtians spend a lot of time and effort pushing their political agenda.   The second big difference between xtianity and other faiths is the fact that conversion is an obligation to most xtians, no matter what sect they belong to.  If xtians, like jews, believed that it was wrong to proselytize, they would not have nearly as many enemies. This urge to push their ideology, unasked, on others is obnoxious and exceedingly irritating to most non-xtians.  Case in point: a xtian acquaintance, knowing I am opposed to theism, still gave me a god/religion xmas card.  I find this quite offensive, since I have made my position clear on such things and a card which explicitly denied the existence of god would have been taken very badly.  But in my experience, this sort of behaviour is typical among xtians of all sects; and I have yet to encounter it in any other monotheistic cult.   –medusa

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My parents played me a record that explained all this to me when i was three years old.  First the record, narrated by a "priest", detailed a heinous and tortuous murder.  Then the priest sternly told me it was my fault!  I hadn’t even seen a single episode of Perry Mason yet, so this was my first experience with a murder story or a bogus accusation.  Frankly, it scared me silly. "Who would tell a three year old child a story like this?", i wondered rhetorically.

Hey, I heard a record like that too!  I was about eight (?) in Sunday school when they played a story called "The Littlest Angel."  It started off with telling the story of the tiniest angel in Heaven, who was clumsy and his/her/its (?) halo would keep falling off, so the littlest angel had to hold it on and there was a black mark of tarnish on the halo from this.  "All the other angels made fun of the littlest angel" went the record – and my mind went white out!  "Wait a minute!" I cried out inside!  "In Heaven people are going to tease you?  And make fun of you because you’re new or little?  You mean Heaven is – is – is going to be JUST like the world I live in now?" By the time the littlest angel made good by giving Jesus his favorite butterfly wings for his birthday ("This gift has the most love in it, so it’s the best, blah blah blah") I was well on my way to the paganism that would eventually mutate into SubGeniushood. Praise priests and their evil little records!  Think of how many have been turned from the nailed-to-a-stick God by them!  Hey, why not put out a CD of "Best Of Evil Bible Stories"?  I’d love it!  - X-Dame

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:   : Barry : If you do go to church say a prayer for my father who is ill with a head injury. : Thanks Dear Jesus, who art in heaven. Bless this man. Make his head fixt. FIXIT GOD! YOU DUMBASS! FIX HIS HEAD OR I’LL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOU! I MEAN IT! I’LL KICK THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOUR POMPOUS ASS GOD AND YOU WON’T BE SMILING THEN!! Bless my fire-truck. Bless my shoes. Bless my mommy, her don’t smoke crack. Fix his head again god. Amen.                 Love,                 Steven Blackmer QPM —

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I HOPE SOME OF YOU GO TO CHURCH THIS WEEK AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST INTO YOUR HEART. HE DIED ON THE CROSS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS, NO MATTER HOW TERRIBLE, AS LONG AS YOU JUST ASK HIM TO. MERRY CHRISTMAS. I QUITE AGREE AND (oops sorry) I quite agree and am doing my part by sinning as much as I can. Barry

In light of Barry’s response, I would modify "AS LONG AS YOU JUST ASK HIM TO" to be a little more explicit and say "AS LONG AS YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT YOUR BEHAVIOR AND JUST ASK HIM TO." God has a response to you, barry: Rom 6:1-4 "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace might increase? May it never be! How shall we who died to sin still live in it? Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life.

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I HOPE SOME OF YOU GO TO CHURCH THIS WEEK AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST INTO YOUR HEART. HE DIED ON THE CROSS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS, NO MATTER HOW TERRIBLE, AS LONG AS YOU JUST ASK HIM TO. MERRY CHRISTMAS.

I QUITE AGREE AND (oops sorry) I quite agree and am doing my part by sinning as much as I can. Barry

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:   Jesus can do what he wants.  I like my sins. :   : Quite right. Jesus died for your sins. Make it worth his while. :   Or, to quote Jules Feiffer:  "Jesus died for our sins.  Do we dare make his death meaningless by not committing them?"

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I HOPE SOME OF YOU GO TO CHURCH THIS WEEK AND ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST INTO YOUR HEART. HE DIED ON THE CROSS TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS, NO MATTER HOW TERRIBLE, AS LONG AS YOU JUST ASK HIM TO. MERRY CHRISTMAS. I QUITE AGREE AND (oops sorry) I quite agree and am doing my part by sinning as much as I can. Barry

If you do go to church say a prayer for my father who is ill with a head injury. Thanks — I like bears,get me

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I just wanted to say that this is the most intelligent response I have yet heard to someone preaching/praying for "sinners".  It has the least amount of useless hostility, and the most information even given its very short length.  Thank you.  There is someone out there with at least part of a brain.

Yeah, and I wannit back!

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: : : : : Come on, folks, the guy was "Don Fnordlioni at Illuminati Online." : : Nothing like Discordianism in practice, is there?  It seems to be : : very successful. : : : : It’s like Dynasoar says, some people can just troll in plain sight : and : : they still keep hopping into the boat. : : i don’t know what’s stuppider, replying to a troll, or engaging : in conversation about others who replied to the troll as if their : discussion is totally disconnected and unrelated to the troll, : on the other hand, talking about people talking about people who : replied to the troll seems to be some sort of exercise in artfulness. : There’s nothing more pathetic than people who post about the posts : about people who post about the people who respond to trolls. : Except for people who beg for sex from total strangers. Hey!  Watch who you’re calling pathetic!  :) : the Grand Clavister : (Please gimme.) : — : THE GRAND CLAVISTER OF NYC (AND POINTS BEYOND) NEEDS YOUR KEYS! : SEND AN SASE, $1 OR [PREFERABLY] KEYS TO FIND OUT WHY! SEND ALL : THE STUFF TO: O.L.I.N.Y.K., PO BOX 2559, GRAND CENTRAL STATION, : NEW YORK, NY 10163-2559. THE FUTURE OF THE WORLD DEPENDS ON IT!   :  "Anger is both a tool and a gift." – Paul Jannicola (of N^2) –Hampster |  Goodnight, you moonlight ladies                                        | |  And rockabye, Sweet Baby James                       This brain        | |  Deep greens and blues are the colors I choose        intentionally     | |  Won’t you let me go down in my dreams                left blank        | |  And rockabye, Sweet Baby James                                         | |  -James Taylor-                                       The Hampster      |

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There’s nothing more pathetic than people who post about the posts about people who post about the people who respond to trolls. Except for people who beg for sex from total strangers. the Grand Clavister (Please gimme.)

So.. uh.. what are you wearing?

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: Hmmm… A couple of points for the overall content, minus one for yelling : (or being unable to find the CapsLock key…)  A couple more for the "HE : DIED…" statement.. : Total of 3 out of a possible 10. Sometimes the simple ways work best.  10, maybe 15 people fell for a fairly obvious troll coming from a guy who called himself "Don Fnordlioni"!  Guess you don’t have to be a Christian to lose rational thought abilities when Jesus comes up.

Yes, it was an obvious troll.  However, even the most obvious troll deserves a rating of some sort… Blessed Bo, Morgan FNORD

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