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Flying as a hobby will be over if Gore wins. Search the net for Gore AND Unabomber AND test. Take the test. See if you can tell which is which. E. G. Buck, MD Interesting test. I only scored 50%! Why do you feel that Gore is anti-GA?
USER FEES!!!!! Warren
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Flying as a hobby will be over if Gore wins. Search the net for Gore AND Unabomber AND test. Take the test. See if you can tell which is which. E. G. Buck, MD
Interesting test. I only scored 50%! Why do you feel that Gore is anti-GA? I personally think he’s pretty scary, but I didn’t know had anything against GA. Are his or Bush’s views on GA chronicled anywhere? – Mark Burnham
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Flying as a hobby will be over if Gore wins. Search the net for Gore AND Unabomber AND test. Take the test. See if you can tell which is which. E. G. Buck, MD Interesting test. I only scored 50%! Why do you feel that Gore is anti-GA? I personally think he’s pretty scary, but I didn’t know had anything against GA. Are his or Bush’s views on GA chronicled anywhere? – Mark Burnham
Look for Gore’s books. He wants to eliminate the internal combustion engine within 25 years. Got a solar panel on your plane? Does it carry a LOT of voters around? Guess who will be asked to refrain from damaging the ozone layer. E. G. Buck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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I worked for the Federal Government from 1968 to 1993. I worked for the wonderful USEPA most of that time. My opinion is that they are more crooked than the mafia. I’ve watched them steal billions of dollars from the tax payers to line their own pockets. They have no concern for the populous at all. All these little puke demigods are wanting is more personal power for themselves. The FAA is not far behind them.
<snip BWB has it right. The site www.junkscience.com is a good place to start finding out the stuff the EPA et al pull. Read "Science without Sense" for intro to how epidemiologists mess with random events, "Science under Siege" by Michael Fumento for how politicized do gooders mess with the truth. "Gallileo’s Revenge" for ditto in courtroom. Today’s Junkscience post tells how a common insecticide will be run off the market, though it is safe. What does this have to do with the flyer, you ask. When the govt decides you are too much trouble, it will not be the FAA who pulls the plug, but the EPA; which will claim that you are dumping POSSIBLE CARCINOGENS (gasp) into the air, which will of course affect our CHILDREN, so you must give up your free flight and go only on govt monitored aerial buses. Of course, this will be worth it if it Saves Just One Life. Our community is being crucified to the tune of $22 million because the Army left some old paint barrels out behind the high school 50 years ago. Trace molecules of benzene were found ten feet down in the soil 50 yards from the school. A radioactive marker was found 75 yards away – the glow type put on trucks for convoys. A mildly radioactive rock, sold to schools for teaching radioactivity, was carefully extracted from the school by tongs. Absolutely NO teaching was given to the public by the so called news. Nothing to inform the ignorant that we are all radioactive anyway, always have been from Creation. Nothing to inform them that sniffing gasoline at the pump gives doses of benzene that dwarf the paltry few from the ground; or that sucking on that cigarette does ditto. One of our physicians called the state epidemiologist on his assumption that the 3% of life spent at the school means nothing in terms of exposure, given the negative air, ground, water etc. tests done. The doc got death threats. The "crisis" is estimated to cost $66 million, plus millions to the ill students even decades out of school.. Flying as a hobby will be over if Gore wins. Search the net for Gore AND Unabomber AND test. Take the test. See if you can tell which is which. E. G. Buck, MD
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I don’t get it anymore. So watcha building these days Bill? Corky Scott
I"m building a Snobird gyroplane and an RC gyroplane together. Can’t seem to get all the parts I need at this point but I will…even if I have to make em from scratch. BWB
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Billy VRWC Fronteer http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/promise.html
Who was John Galt? <g BWB
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timF Invite a beggar into your home and he will be warm for one night. Set him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and he’ll sit around in a boat all day drinking beer and telling lies. Tom Cooper
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Actually thats why I put my homebuilt airplane project on hold and am building somethings a little more….shall we say, "anti-government", instead…. http://www.users.uswest.net/~tfriendshuh/iagree.htm snip
timF Invite a beggar into your home and he will be warm for one night. Set him on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
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So watcha building these days Bill?
A reputation. Dave ‘oblivious’ Hyde
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Life is what you make it. Some of the happiest people I have ever seen live in tin shacks in the provinces practicing subsistance farming. They have nothing and yet the human spirit shines brightly. I was fortunate to discover flying in my teens. My fourth entry in my first logbook was in the right seat of a Twin Beech going to the Bahamas. Then came growing up. There was a point where I was convinced that the world has too many assholes and that I was never going to rise above all the assholes and achieve happiness. I retreated to a place where the people are more civilized, to the provinces where the peasants have nothing! Jimmy Buffet must write his music about me. Life is easier in the islands, but it isn’t for everyone. Many a gringo developes rock fever. They don’t have the patience to live the laid-back style. They get irritated and agitated. They start talking about infected jungle bunnies and about never getting off the ship. I’m on the other side. I went to Kansas and Missouri 2 weeks ago (couldn’t swing a P’ville stop because of the schedule). I became irritated and agitated. The people were not rude or disrespectful, just the opposite. However, there were reminders all around me that some assholes wanted to control my life. On a long open stretch of highway, the speed limit was a lowly 40 mph. If you get pulled over and the police find an empty beer can in the car, you can go to jail for suspicion of DUI. There are signs pointing people to the few spots where the public is allowed to fish. Airport security wanted to see if my beepers had explosives in them. I understand why the regulatory measures are there, to protect the assholes from themselves, but it aggravates me. I am accustomed to personal accountability. In the islands, you can do what you want as long as you see to it that no one gets hurt. If I want to fly my plane for personal use without a medical, no one cares as long as I don’t hurt anyone. If I want to drink a beer while driving without a seatbelt, no one cares as long as I see to it that no one gets hurt. Many of the smaller islands have only golfcarts for transportation. I can fish anywhere I want! Then we get on the subject of personal income tax. I have to pay it because I work in the States. Do I like to pay it? Do I like the fact that the biggest chunk of the tax I pay into the federal budget goes to welfare and Social Security? Do I like this when the contrast in the islands is not having a personal income tax? Do I like it when I see my tax dollars go to people who, for the most part, don’t work and don’t hold themselves personally accountable for their own retirements? Time to stop writing Damn, my wife and I plan to retire in about 4 years. Got room for two more lay about’s down there??
The more I hear about what is going on, the more it wakes me up to the problems. And the more appealing such a different lifestyle sounds. I have more to do on this side for a while, though.
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Life is what you make it. Some of the happiest people I have ever seen live in tin shacks in the provinces practicing subsistance farming. They have nothing and yet the human spirit shines brightly. I was fortunate to discover flying in my teens. My fourth entry in my first logbook was in the right seat of a Twin Beech going to the Bahamas. Then came growing up. There was a point where I was convinced that the world has too many assholes and that I was never going to rise above all the assholes and achieve happiness. I retreated to a place where the people are more civilized, to the provinces where the peasants have nothing! Jimmy Buffet must write his music about me. Life is easier in the islands, but it isn’t for everyone. Many a gringo developes rock fever. They don’t have the patience to live the laid-back style. They get irritated and agitated. They start talking about infected jungle bunnies and about never getting off the ship. I’m on the other side. I went to Kansas and Missouri 2 weeks ago (couldn’t swing a P’ville stop because of the schedule). I became irritated and agitated. The people were not rude or disrespectful, just the opposite. However, there were reminders all around me that some assholes wanted to control my life. On a long open stretch of highway, the speed limit was a lowly 40 mph. If you get pulled over and the police find an empty beer can in the car, you can go to jail for suspicion of DUI. There are signs pointing people to the few spots where the public is allowed to fish. Airport security wanted to see if my beepers had explosives in them. I understand why the regulatory measures are there, to protect the assholes from themselves, but it aggravates me. I am accustomed to personal accountability. In the islands, you can do what you want as long as you see to it that no one gets hurt. If I want to fly my plane for personal use without a medical, no one cares as long as I don’t hurt anyone. If I want to drink a beer while driving without a seatbelt, no one cares as long as I see to it that no one gets hurt. Many of the smaller islands have only golfcarts for transportation. I can fish anywhere I want! Then we get on the subject of personal income tax. I have to pay it because I work in the States. Do I like to pay it? Do I like the fact that the biggest chunk of the tax I pay into the federal budget goes to welfare and Social Security? Do I like this when the contrast in the islands is not having a personal income tax? Do I like it when I see my tax dollars go to people who, for the most part, don’t work and don’t hold themselves personally accountable for their own retirements? Time to stop writing D. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also, Capt Doug. What island do you live on? I just visited a bunch of them. Just curious. Is life there a bit simpler?
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I don’t get it anymore. So watcha building these days Bill?
<nudge-nudge, wink-wink I’m not getting *anything* done with the damned axle assembly and I think I’m doing better than he is. Yo, Bill: I know groups where you can *really* scream this stuff if you want to. Billy VRWC Fronteer http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/promise.html
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The situation kinda reminds you of Atlas Shrugged, doesn’t it? Yes, it does. I read that book early in life. Ann Rand was a true seer. Gonna have to read that one. For myself, the situation reminds me of the great C. M. Kornbluth’s, "The Marching Morons" (SF short story). Ron Wanttaja My son has been pushing me to read Atlas Shrugged for some time….. and he hardly ever recommends a book to dear old Dad. Must be something that fits his particular capitalist viewpoint. <g Surprising that a 1957 book of fiction is still getting so much press. The author is one very savvy russian born woman. See http://www.aynrand.org/aynrand/biography.shtml
"The most subversive political implication of ‘Atlas Shrugged’, is that individual freedom is possible only to those who are strong enough, psychologically and morally, to withdraw their sanction from any system that coercively thrives off their productive energies." (Chris Matthew Sciabarra, "Ayn Rand – The Russian Radical", 1995, Pennsylvania State University Press, Part 3, ch. 11, "Relations of Power" – "Master and Slave", pp. 301-302) "Atlas" is a fine novel, truly of the world class, to which That Woman aspired with high-carbon edge at an early age. Twelve years in the writing, it’s a dashing contribution to (if not a twentieth century straw to grasp in) American literature, which only grows more important with time. Notes taken during construction of the novel (available in Ayn Rand’s "Journals", which I examine here – http://www.zolatimes.com/V1.8/pageone.html#Anchor-49575) comprise an excellent course of study on the art and craft of the novel form. Somene I know once took it up and groaned shortly afterward, "I couldn’t imagine anything more boring than a story about trains, and this thing is full of *pieces* of trains." <shrug Just goes to show that one only gets out of some things what one invests in them. "Atlas" was consciously designed as a full explication of Ayn Rand’s philosophy. That’s a big deal. In a time in the history of philosophy when "system builders" were long out of fashion, here’s this Jewish woman, escaped from The Great Experiment, writing in America from metaphysics (not quite yet professionally staked through the heart, then) up to politics and aesthetics with full systemic deliberation and not a shred of post-graduate academic work. She wrote scripts for Cecil B. DeMille, and produced the first authentic heroine in American fiction (Dagny Taggart). Her epistemology is *the* premier achievement of twentieth century philosophy (a contention open to hot dispute, you can be sure), and professional philosophy has ignored her about as long as it can. Bennett Cerf, at Random House, pleaded with her for manuscript edits, but she wouldn’t have it: this is 1168 pages and she was going to war over *commas*. "Atlas" came to market with, among other things, the only sixty-page *soliloquy* in modern fiction. I’ve never read it, myself. I first read "Atlas" in 1971 (I think), I’ve read it about every 3-4 years, on average, and I still have not read all of John Galt’s radio speech. That’s mainly because I’d already read most of her non-fiction work, first, which is essays distilling the philosophy set out in the novel… about trains, and parts of trains. In a survey conducted by the Library of Congress some years back, "Atlas Shrugged" ranked number two on a list of "books that most influenced my life" or something like that, behind the Holy Bible. I guess that shows what some folx really like a lot to read, but "Atlas" has been selling pretty briskly for nearly half a century now. Billy VRWC Fronteer http://www.mindspring.com/~wjb3/promise.html
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I don’t get it anymore. BWB
Come to work some holiday night with me Bill. Or in place of that read "The Knife and Gun Club" by Eugene Richards ISBN 0-87113-446-2 from The Atlantic Monthly Press. You’ll either be completely confused or be an advocate for autocracy by the end. Tom "end welfare require literacy" Cooper
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Bill: And lets not forget Asbestos. Potential future cancer rates were extrapolated by the USEPA from large groups of occupationally exposed ship workers in the 40’s (who really were seriously harmed) to come up with the "one asbestos fiber is too much" rule (i.e if you can detect it it’s too much). Remember that rule? It’s the one that resulted in billions of dollars spent in removing friable asbestos from schools in the 70’s and 80’s using very expensive "asbestos abatement" contractors (read that as "overkill") using control methods prescribed by overzealous government hygienists (even though they knew that intact asbestos that was undamaged is not a danger… unless disturbed by half-trained asbestos contractors under government contract). In short, the government basically exhausted school budgets nationwide for twenty years on needless asbestos abatement projects to support the USEPA’s growing asbestos program. Even the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA), which I am no great fan of either, sets worker protection at 0.1 fibers/cc (ten times higher that of the USEPA). So why did (and still does) the USEPA continue to insist on the "one fiber is too much" rule? Perhaps it’s because USEPA knows that technology continually improves and as a result detection methods for airborne asbestos will also improve. As you might expect, the USEPA has continued to lower asbestos clean-up standards through the years as detection levels have improved, which ultimately has had the result of turning ordinary renovation projects into "asbestos abatement projects" thereby increasing the costs to taxpayers for renovation projects done under government contract particularly those involving pre-1980 publicly owned buildings, …which the government has many and the USEPA’s asbestos program has final authority over…Gee how convenient!!… Greg Arnold I worked for the Federal Government from 1968 to 1993. I worked for the wonderful USEPA most of that time. My opinion is that they are more crooked than the mafia. I’ve watched them steal billions of dollars from the tax payers to line their own pockets. They have no concern for the populous at all. All these little puke demigods are wanting is more personal power for themselves. The FAA is not far behind them.
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I just read this again this morning. In fact I read it a couple times. This post cuts through all the crap and tells it like it is. since when does the Gov care whats constitutional and what isnt, the constitution is something the Gov quotes when they want to overide the will and the vote of the people, as in prop 187 (was it?) in Cal, and something the Gov ignores when they want to dominate the hard working tax payer, and with the courts and the law enforcment backing the Gov, mr tax payer doesnt stand a chance, i say screw the law, as long as im not unethical or imoral and dont cause harm or endanger anybody i do what the hell i want, its to bad that the self serving people in Gov have forced me into this position, —-Beachbum I worked for the Federal Government from 1968 to 1993. I worked for the wonderful USEPA most of that time. My opinion is that they are more crooked than the mafia. I’ve watched them steal billions of dollars from the tax payers to line their own pockets. They have no concern for the populous at all. All these little puke demigods are wanting is more personal power for themselves. The FAA is not far behind them. In about 1986 the USEPA’s Office of Radiation Programs (ORP) in Montgomery Al. was like a bunch of chickens in a barnyard scratching the surface for crumb of carbohydrate so they could survive one more day. Someone there came up with the brilliant notion that they should make a public announcement to the entire country from some poor data concerning Radon-222 exposures in residential homes. They said: "There are 30,000 fatalities per year from lung cancer induced by indoor radon-222 exposure." The whole country was in an uproar. There is nothing more terrifying to most people than the thought of cancer from unseen radiation exposure. After that day, the ORP was a fat cat. They cost the taxpayers BILLIONS of dollars to go out and measure radon in homes all across the US. There are still many programs in effect concerning this statement. The radon issue is now about 15 years old and nobody even remembers why it came about. All they know is that they need a radon certificate to sell their home…still! I did everything I could to expose this while in the government working for EPA. What a fool I was. They didn’t want to hear it. But, from my calculations that number of 30,000 deaths had a statistical error term of plus or minus 50,000 to one sigma. For those of you who don’t understand error terms here’s what that means. If you measure the length of a table with a yardstick you might get 6 feet 0.1 inch. If you do it with a tape you might get 6′ 0.2". If you do it with a laser you might get 6′ 0.0001" and so on. After you measure it 1000 times and right down all your data you can tell people that the table is 6" long plus or minus a tiny amount…let’s say 0.11 inches. If this is an error term to one standard deviation from the mean (one sigma), it indicates that you know the table is 6′ plus or minus 0.11" to a confidence level of one sigma. What that means is if you measure that table a million times, 68% of the time, you’ll come up with a number in that range. Now, the EPA radon statement of 30,000 plus or minus 50,000 means that you might get 80,000 cancers or you might get negative -20,000, 68% of the time. This is like saying that your table is 6 feet plus or minus 10 feet. In other words you don’t have a clue what the length of the table really is. It’s all bullshit. Most scientific data is quoted with a 2-sigma error term which means two standard deviation confidence interval. In the case of the table it might look like 6′ 0.22" . What this means is you are sure to a level of 95% that if someone measures that table with your tools a thousand times, 95% of the time they’ll come up with a number that’s between 5′ 0.88" and 6′ 0.22" The EPA radon number was 30,000 deaths plus or minus 100,000 deaths to a 2-sigma confidence level. That means if you go do a study, you’ll get a number between negative 70,000 deaths and positive 130,000 95% of the time. Equating this to the table, it means that 95% of the time when you measure the table you’ll get a number of 6 feet plus or minus 20 feet. That’s pretty poor measuring. In fact once the number goes negative, the table doesn’t even exist. In the case of radon, once the number goes negative, you get healthful benefits from breathing indoor radon! Of course it’s all bullshit. You can’t say with any certainty of any kind that radon has ANY bad effect on anyone. This is because you just can’t measure one. It’s never been done in reality. It would take millions of people and trillions of dollars to even get the data. So, what’s the deal? The deal is that the federal government lied to you. They cheated you and they robbed you by making such a statement. What they did was take data from uranium miners mostly who smoked and projected the high levels of lung cancer in that group down to the tiny, tiny, itty, bitty level that you might breath in your homes. I can show that the number means nothing…the 30,000 deaths that is. Hell, we lived in caves for thousands of years all cooped up at night breathing carbon monoxide from our fires and high levels of radon in the caves. We made it just fine. Those levels were significantly higher than any indoor radon numbers I’ve ever seen too. This is getting long winded but the FAA does the same kind of crap. Watch what happens every time there’s a crash. They have to appear that they are doing something so they make more regulations, some punk in D.C. gets a promotion out of it and it’s swept under a carpet once again. I was watching TV a couple nights ago and Janet Reno was talking about the little Cuban Boy. She said, "We have to do this because it’s the law!" I wondered to myself. What law? Laws for the poor? Laws for the rich? I don’t get it. The LAW is different for different people. Do the Kennedy’s have to abide by the same laws that I do? Hell no. When they legislate anti-abortion laws they only pick on the poor. If my wife got pregnant and we wanted it aborted and abortion were illegal I’d fly her to London. But, if you are some poor black woman in a ghetto and you get pregnant, you must have the baby. The laws aren’t for the rich. They are and always have been for the poor. I don’t know if it’s just that I’m getting older and wiser or things here in this country have really gone to shit. Sometimes I think we’re really being made fools of when we pay so much income taxes and have so little say. Last week I noticed that the grain growers got a big subsidy. Gee, ain’t that nice. They grain growers have a bad year and I have to pay them for not producing. What happens if I have a bad year? Do I get paid for having a poor business year? Hell no. The only break I get is that I pay the government less in taxes on money I didn’t earn. Do they pay the oil producers here in this country when OPEC gives oil away at $3 a barrel? Hell no. People hate oil producers that’s why. Almost all the oil wells in Wyoming are owned by small operators who pump about 5 barrels a day. They raise their families on it, pay government royalties on the mineral production plus gobs of state and local taxes. They ain’t Rockefeller. They are mom and pop people just like us. When OPEC gives oil away and they have 5 bad years do they get a subsidy? Hell no. What are the laws? Who benefits. What the hell is going on? When Texaco’s oil wells in Venezuela are nationalized which means they were just plain stolen, does the US do anything? Nope! When some little puke crosses the border of Kuwait to grab some oil what do we do? We declare war is what we do. I don’t get it anymore. BWB
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The situation kinda reminds you of Atlas Shrugged, doesn’t it? Yes, it does. I read that book early in life. Ann Rand was a true seer. Gonna have to read that one. For myself, the situation reminds me of the great C. M. Kornbluth’s, "The Marching Morons" (SF short story). Ron Wanttaja
My son has been pushing me to read Atlas Shrugged for some time….. and he hardly ever recommends a book to dear old Dad. Must be something that fits his particular capitalist viewpoint. <g Surprising that a 1957 book of fiction is still getting so much press. The author is one very savvy russian born woman. See http://www.aynrand.org/aynrand/biography.shtml BOb U.
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Bill: The situation kinda reminds you of Atlas Shrugged, doesn’t it? Best Regards, Dave Barnhart
Yes, it does. I read that book early in life. Ann Rand was a true seer. That book should be required reading for any business major…maybe it is. Also, Capt Doug. What island do you live on? I just visited a bunch of them. Just curious. Is life there a bit simpler? BWB
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I just read this again this morning. In fact I read it a couple times. This post cuts through all the crap and tells it like it is.
In other words, "statistics don’t lie, statisticians do" Warren
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I don’t get it anymore.
So watcha building these days Bill? Corky Scott
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I just read this again this morning. In fact I read it a couple times. This post cuts through all the crap and tells it like it is. In other words, "statistics don’t lie, statisticians do"
In yet other words……"the facts can hide the truth" Bob Walkenhurst
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The situation kinda reminds you of Atlas Shrugged, doesn’t it? Yes, it does. I read that book early in life. Ann Rand was a true seer.
Gonna have to read that one. For myself, the situation reminds me of the great C. M. Kornbluth’s, "The Marching Morons" (SF short story). Ron Wanttaja http://www.halcyon.com/wanttaja/
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Is the good ole USA going to shit? No! it’s always been this way. Is it any wonder why I live in the islands? I still have to pay income tax because I work in the States, but I don’t have all the other BS to put up with. My Dad is retiring next year. He’s coming to the islands too. I’m finally going to get him to learn to fly. He even wants to build a bi-plane. D.
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Bill: The situation kinda reminds you of Atlas Shrugged, doesn’t it? Best Regards, Dave Barnhart – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just read this again this morning. In fact I read it a couple times. This post cuts through all the crap and tells it like it is….
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It’s too bad that the Federal crooks outnumber and out power the Federal goodguys. Unfortunately, the goodguys usually get trounced, are underpaid, overworked and generally pissed on by the crooks. It’s too bad that we can’t turn the tables on more of the crooked s.o.b.’s. Craig C.
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