Catholics & Catholicism

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Daniel The voices are not a physical threat.  The voices are from the spirit world, the etheral plane.  They can’t hurt you. penguin

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I advise you to get me some guards. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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Tattoo parlor. Drugs. Persuasion. Pain. Heaven. Convince. Mortal. Connection. Dig. Jolt. Encourage. Admire. Yells on the street. Walden. Tamper. Innate. Prisons. Torture. A BRILLIANT MADNESS. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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The evolution of theology. Grass. Roman Catholic mishna. Extinction. Jews. Boring. Fashion leper. Egoism. Refund. Medical school. Inspiration. Pigeon. Upbringing. Understanding. Change. Date. Heterosexual. Deformed. Celibacy. Expectations. Generous. Conversation. Cause. Reconsider. The New World. Intimidation. Exempt. THE BILL OF RIGHTS. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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I am somewhat requesting permission for a personal experiment. If the experiment picks at your curiousity, you might allow me to try it. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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Perhaps two meals a day. But sometimes only one. You might feel a subtle high from the endorphines. The need to be a good person might be somewhat universal. The high that results could seem like using drugs, but it is a natural high. Perhaps elated states can prolong life. Gossip about experiences with food asphyxiation might prove useful. But most people seem shy about talking about such things. Lack of communication can hinder the process. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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The concept of fasting for a philosophical end might sometimes assume that a plant has a spirit. That belief could effect the mind, even if it isn’t true. Perhaps in a religious sense, we are inclined to want to believe such an idea. Living things seem somehow significant. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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My mother should be prosecuted for child abuse. West Palm Beach is a scandalous community. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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When you convince each other about fasting through the words you use, it might feed the body. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – November 30, 2004 RAMADAN AND CHRISTMAS IN THE SCHOOLS Catholic League president William Donohue lists what some public schools recently did to accommodate Muslim students during Ramadan.  Donohue concludes: "The degree of tolerance that these public schools have shown for Muslim students during Ramadan is encouraging.  Maybe now we can get the schools to stop with this ‘Winter Holiday’ nonsense and get down to celebrating Christmas with a concert that features a nativity scene and the singing of ‘Silent Night.’"

Why?  I am unaware of any Roman Catholic obligation to participate in Christmas plays and sing Christmas carols during school time in December.  Without such an obligation his demand for Silent Night and nativity scenes is just rabble rousing.  Which I think is the sole objective of many so-called Christian leaders. JohnN

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November 30, 2004     RAMADAN AND CHRISTMAS IN THE SCHOOLS Catholic League president William Donohue lists what some public schools recently did to accommodate Muslim students during Ramadan.  

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However I do not see him lashing out an the Russian Orthodox, the Southern Baptists, the Episcopalians, the Lutherans, or even the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Mormons or the Moonies. Does anyone know what motivates his vitriolic? I’ve put an article on my website – http://www.theotokos.co.za/adventism/sdahate.html – dealing with how I see his posts – indirectly it may answer your question. God bless, Stephen

Thanks, Stephen, I read your web page.  It was interesting, but nothing unique as to the Seventh Day Adventists.  Ever since Martin Luther posted his "95 Theses" on the cathedral doors at Wittenburg, there has been a strong tendency to slander the Catholic Church for crimes either they did not commit or for which they were not the only ones guilty. I was raised Baptist and as a Baptist, you cannot imagine the horrible stories I head about the Catholics.  Some of them were true, unfortunately; some were not.  For many others I could not find no evidence as to whether they were true or not, such as stories of tunnels connecting monasteries and convents in which incredible orgies were alleged to have been committed.  True?  False?  Who is to say for sure. Some of the points on which most Protestants blasted the Catholics were even points on which the Catholics actually took pride, such as the sale of indulgences (a major spark for the Protestant Reformation) and the insane doctrine that even the most corrupt and evil of Popes can speak with the same authority as God Himself and, in doing so, like God Himself, be totally free from any possibility of error.  Others were true things of which the Catholic Church had never asked forgiveness, such as the sheer horror of the Inquisition, especially in Spain, though elsewhere, too.  I heard several and often conflicting stories about the origin of eating fish on Fridays, all of which were demeaning to the Catholic Church and not all of them could possibly be true.  I even heard of a few stories of cannibalism. Old SDA literature about the RC church, I am sure, is rife with inaccuracies, misunderstandings, misinterpretations and occasional downright lies.  Likewise, much of Protestantism has similar stories. Similarly, I have heard of stories from the early days of the Counterreformation where Catholics told similar stories on us.  Since neither side is without sin in this area, neither side has the right to throw the first stone. The SDA’s were, by no means, unique in their Anti-Catholic vitriolic.  Some of the biggest haters of the RC church are the Jehovah’s Witnesses, yet Shan, in his fury hangs all charges against one minor player, the SDA church. — Andy Rugg – The Cheerful Pickle To email me, please remove "postheap" from my email address.  Thanks.

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Some of the points on which most Protestants blasted the Catholics were even points on which the Catholics actually took pride, such as the sale of indulgences (a major spark for the Protestant Reformation) and the insane doctrine that even the most corrupt and evil of Popes can speak with the same authority as God Himself and, in doing so, like God Himself, be totally free from any possibility of error.

Pride in the sale of indulgences?  I doubt it.  Alms is a form of prayer, but the way that alms were solicited bordered on simony.  No one’s proud of that. You’ve got your papal doctrine wrong, too.  We Catholics believe that the papacy (the office) is a gift to the Church, as is the episcopacy (bishops). The guarantee that Christ will always be with us and that the Holy Spirit will always teach us means that the Church can never seriously err in what it teaches about salvation.  The Church can never be the antiChrist, because it is the Body of Christ.  The responsibility for maintaining this sacred trust falls on all of us, but primarily on the bishops, including the Bishop of Rome, who is the successor of Peter.  The bishops and popes can be awful sinners, horrible men, but they as a body cannot seriously err in what that teach concerning salvation.  It is not THEM, it is Christ’s promise. The body of bishops in the Imperial church showed themselves to be weak when pressured by the Emperor.  Patriarchs and prelates all signed up for heresies under the emperor’s forceful leadership.  But the Bishop of Rome didn’t.  And so the belief grew that the bishops WITH the bishop of Rome cannot seriously err in matters of faith and moral teaching. The bishops WITHOUT him have no such guarantee. It has nothing to do with their personal sinfulness.  It isn’t about them, anyway.  It is a gift for the Church; we can have confidence in his teachings. But even there the teaching has been narrowed.  Not ALL teachings are covered. There are no guarantees about papal teachings outside of faith and morals. Papal teachings on economics or politics or science or whatever, unless they center on moral principles bearing on salvation, are his personal teachings. We treat them with respect, but the next pope could have entirely different ideas.   We have had popes who were horrible sinners.  We have had popes who were ignorant.  We have had popes who were scoundrels.  We may even have had popes who were personal heretics.  But we have not had popes who taught heresy to the church as official Church teaching.  

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – However I do not see him lashing out an the Russian Orthodox, the Southern Baptists, the Episcopalians, the Lutherans, or even the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Mormons or the Moonies. Does anyone know what motivates his vitriolic? I’ve put an article on my website – http://www.theotokos.co.za/adventism/sdahate.html – dealing with how I see his posts – indirectly it may answer your question. God bless, Stephen Thanks, Stephen, I read your web page.  It was interesting, but nothing unique as to the Seventh Day Adventists.

If you mean my content, I don’t know of many Catholic sites that address the issue from a Catholic perspective.  If you mean the vitriol I’m complaining about, no, it’s certainly not limited to SDAs. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ever since Martin Luther posted his "95 Theses" on the cathedral doors at Wittenburg, there has been a strong tendency to slander the Catholic Church for crimes either they did not commit or for which they were not the only ones guilty. I was raised Baptist and as a Baptist, you cannot imagine the horrible stories I head about the Catholics.  Some of them were true, unfortunately; some were not.  For many others I could not find no evidence as to whether they were true or not, such as stories of tunnels connecting monasteries and convents in which incredible orgies were alleged to have been committed.  True?  False?  Who is to say for sure. Some of the points on which most Protestants blasted the Catholics were even points on which the Catholics actually took pride, such as the sale of indulgences (a major spark for the Protestant Reformation)

The Church recognises that as an abuse, not as something good.  Individual Catholics may have liked the idea, however. and the insane doctrine that even the most corrupt and evil of Popes can speak with the same authority as God Himself and, in doing so, like God Himself, be totally free from any possibility of error.

It depends on what angle you take.  Real Catholic teaching is that it’s simply guidance by God – if someone is led by God, he can’t lead the Church astray.  We believe Jesus promised that.  It’s interesting that the bad popes did little to advance the faith, but they never did anything in the infallible arena to harm it.  It was the good popes who took the Church forward there. Others were true things of which the Catholic Church had never asked forgiveness, such as the sheer horror of the Inquisition, especially in Spain, though elsewhere, too.

Of course, there is always sin wherever there is humanity, so there is always stuff to ask forgiveness for. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I heard several and often conflicting stories about the origin of eating fish on Fridays, all of which were demeaning to the Catholic Church and not all of them could possibly be true.  I even heard of a few stories of cannibalism. Old SDA literature about the RC church, I am sure, is rife with inaccuracies, misunderstandings, misinterpretations and occasional downright lies.  Likewise, much of Protestantism has similar stories. Similarly, I have heard of stories from the early days of the Counterreformation where Catholics told similar stories on us.  Since neither side is without sin in this area, neither side has the right to throw the first stone. The SDA’s were, by no means, unique in their Anti-Catholic vitriolic. Some of the biggest haters of the RC church are the Jehovah’s Witnesses, yet Shan, in his fury hangs all charges against one minor player, the SDA church.

It depends on what your experience is.  My experience was primarily with SDAs, and it was in writing back to them that I put together stuff for my site.  So my focus is largely on defending Catholicism from Adventism. Shan, I think, had an SDA wife – so his focus would be there too. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman www.theotokos.co.za www.theotokos.co.za/adventism IC | XC NI | KA

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Hi, gang, I am trying to fathom what is with Shan that he has such a seething hatred of the Seventh Day Adventist denomination. Jesus said for us to love fellow believers, to love our neighbors and to love our enemies.  That covers just about everyone, yet he continues with his intense hatred of the Seventh Day Adventists. I understand that he is Roman Catholic, apparently of an old school of Catholic that believes that all non-Catholics are going to hell, presumably including even Protestant and Eastern Orthodox.  However I do not see him lashing out an the Russian Orthodox, the Southern Baptists, the Episcopalians, the Lutherans, or even the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Mormons or the Moonies. Does anyone know what motivates his vitriolic? — Andy Rugg – The Cheerful Pickle To email me, please remove "postheap" from my email address.  Thanks.

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Cheerful: Shan either had a wife, or a girlfriend who was a SDA. When she kicked his sorry ass out the door, Shan went on his hate filled rant about SDAs. If you read his crap, it’s not hard to see why she sent him packing. I doubt that he is even catholic, if he is, they have no idea what kind of crap he does his his spare time. You would think he would get over being dumped and get on with his life.

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Hi, gang, I am trying to fathom what is with Shan that he has such a seething hatred of the Seventh Day Adventist denomination. Jesus said for us to love fellow believers, to love our neighbors and to love our enemies.  That covers just about everyone, yet he continues with his intense hatred of the Seventh Day Adventists. I understand that he is Roman Catholic, apparently of an old school of Catholic that believes that all non-Catholics are going to hell, presumably including even Protestant and Eastern Orthodox.

He doesn’t believe that they go to hell, not from what I’ve read of his posts. However I do not see him lashing out an the Russian Orthodox, the Southern Baptists, the Episcopalians, the Lutherans, or even the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Mormons or the Moonies. Does anyone know what motivates his vitriolic?

I’ve put an article on my website – http://www.theotokos.co.za/adventism/sdahate.html – dealing with how I see his posts – indirectly it may answer your question. God bless, Stephen — — Stephen Korsman www.theotokos.co.za www.theotokos.co.za/adventism IC | XC NI | KA

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French Commission Recommends Hijab Ban By Hadi Yahmed, IOL Paris Correspondent PARIS, December 11 (IslamOnline.net) – A government commission appointed by President Jacques Chirac recommended Thursday, December 11, issuing new law to ban "conspicuous" religious signs, including Hijab, in state schools. A source in the 20-member commission, chaired by former minister Bernard Stasi, told IslamOnline.net that the 50-page made no reference to a specific religious sign to avoid antagonizing the Muslim or any other minority. The commission also recommended that France take the step, unprecedented in all of Europe, to add Jewish and Muslim holidays to the calendar for state schools. It suggested that Yom Kippur – the Jewish Day of Atonement – and Eid al-Adha be celebrated in the schools. It also recommended that companies allow employees to choose a religious holiday, for instance Yom Kippur, Eid al-Adha, or the Orthodox Christmas to add to their number of days off. The country currently marks 11 public holidays, most of the based on Roman Catholic celebrations reflecting the denomination of the majority of its 60 million inhabitants. The report also recommended appointing preachers for Muslim inmates, as requested by the French Muslim Council. President Chirac is expected to announced whether he supports the commission’s recommendation in a public speech on Wednesday, December 17. The Stasi Commission has compiled its report depending on the testimonies of some 120 people, including hijab-wearing Muslims, heads of French parties, human rights organization representatives, intellectuals and writers. People were asked about their views regarding the application of secularism in France and the issue of religious symbols, particularly hijab in schools and public institutions. On Friday, December 5, the commission listened to the testimonies of two hijab-wearing French women and a third Muslim woman, who does not wear hijab. The issue of hijab has sparked much controversy in France, especially after the establishment of the first Muslim representative body in the country. On Saturday, December 6, Chirac antagonized the around 5-million-strong Muslim community in France describing hijab as "a sort of aggression." In statements during a meeting with students at the Pierre Mendes-France School in the Tunisian capital on the sidelines of a two-day summit of five southern-European states and their North African neighbors, Chirac said : "Wearing a veil, whether we want it or not, is a sort of aggression that is difficult for us to accept." French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin secured  on November 28 a majority approval of his ruling party to pass a controversial bill banning hijab. French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has long opposed such a law, warning it would provoke a backlash among Muslims, who would view it as an "insult and punishment". In September, two Muslim sisters were expelled from Henri Wallon lycee school in the Paris northern suburb of Aubervilliers for wearing hijab. In spite of their large numbers – some 50,000 Frenchmen and women reportedly convert to Islam annually – Muslims complain that the French refuse to accept the Muslim presence and consider Islam an alien force which "should be eliminated." The London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC)  has launched Wednesday, December 3, a worldwide campaign, urging Muslims to write to European officials, foreign ministers and French ambassadors to take a strong action to stop the mooted discriminatory bill. http://islamonline.net/

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Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative.

I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….!

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Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative. I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….!

People sometimes are easily confused.   For example the Bill of Rights has nothing to do with democracy but people sometimes entangle them.

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Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative. I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….! People sometimes are easily confused.   For example the Bill of Rights has nothing to do with democracy but people sometimes entangle them.

So the gist to this is that Adhabuhu is confusing the Hijab being part of Islam?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative. I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….! People sometimes are easily confused.   For example the Bill of Rights has nothing to do with democracy but people sometimes entangle them. So the gist to this is that Adhabuhu is confusing the Hijab being part of Islam?

If I take you at your word "I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam" then Adhabuhu must be confused. However he may not be confused in feeling the Hijab today, right now, in French schools symbolizes adherence to Islam in some way.    I mean why would non-Islamic folks want to ban an otherwise harmless bit of cloth?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative. I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….! People sometimes are easily confused.   For example the Bill of Rights has nothing to do with democracy but people sometimes entangle them. So the gist to this is that Adhabuhu is confusing the Hijab being part of Islam? If I take you at your word "I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam" then Adhabuhu must be confused.

You can ….I wont take a cheap pot shot at you…..(not without warning) However he may not be confused in feeling the Hijab today, right now, in French schools symbolizes adherence to Islam in some way.    I mean why would non-Islamic folks want to ban an otherwise harmless bit of cloth?

I dont know… as long as the harmless cloth is being worn without force I see nothing wrong with it… I have not problem with a women *wanting* to wear it …. for a multitude of reasons including comfort and or modesty…. I just have the problems with force…. and I think muslims ought to be educated about its origins…… Thats all… or do you disagree?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – French Commission Recommends Hijab Ban By Hadi Yahmed, IOL Paris Correspondent PARIS, December 11 (IslamOnline.net) – A government commission appointed by President Jacques Chirac recommended Thursday, December 11, issuing new law to ban "conspicuous" religious signs, including Hijab, in state schools. A source in the 20-member commission, chaired by former minister Bernard Stasi, told IslamOnline.net that the 50-page made no reference to a specific religious sign to avoid antagonizing the Muslim or any other minority. The commission also recommended that France take the step, unprecedented in all of Europe, to add Jewish and Muslim holidays to the calendar for state schools. It suggested that Yom Kippur – the Jewish Day of Atonement – and Eid al-Adha be celebrated in the schools. It also recommended that companies allow employees to choose a religious holiday, for instance Yom Kippur, Eid al-Adha, or the Orthodox Christmas to add to their number of days off. The country currently marks 11 public holidays, most of the based on Roman Catholic celebrations reflecting the denomination of the majority of its 60 million inhabitants. The report also recommended appointing preachers for Muslim inmates, as requested by the French Muslim Council. President Chirac is expected to announced whether he supports the commission’s recommendation in a public speech on Wednesday, December 17. The Stasi Commission has compiled its report depending on the testimonies of some 120 people, including hijab-wearing Muslims, heads of French parties, human rights organization representatives, intellectuals and writers. People were asked about their views regarding the application of secularism in France and the issue of religious symbols, particularly hijab in schools and public institutions. On Friday, December 5, the commission listened to the testimonies of two hijab-wearing French women and a third Muslim woman, who does not wear hijab. The issue of hijab has sparked much controversy in France, especially after the establishment of the first Muslim representative body in the country. On Saturday, December 6, Chirac antagonized the around 5-million-strong Muslim community in France describing hijab as "a sort of aggression." In statements during a meeting with students at the Pierre Mendes-France School in the Tunisian capital on the sidelines of a two-day summit of five southern-European states and their North African neighbors, Chirac said : "Wearing a veil, whether we want it or not, is a sort of aggression that is difficult for us to accept." French Prime Minister Jean-Pierre Raffarin secured  on November 28 a majority approval of his ruling party to pass a controversial bill banning hijab. French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy has long opposed such a law, warning it would provoke a backlash among Muslims, who would view it as an "insult and punishment". In September, two Muslim sisters were expelled from Henri Wallon lycee school in the Paris northern suburb of Aubervilliers for wearing hijab. In spite of their large numbers – some 50,000 Frenchmen and women reportedly convert to Islam annually – Muslims complain that the French refuse to accept the Muslim presence and consider Islam an alien force which "should be eliminated." The London-based Islamic Human Rights Commission (IHRC)  has launched Wednesday, December 3, a worldwide campaign, urging Muslims to write to European officials, foreign ministers and French ambassadors to take a strong action to stop the mooted discriminatory bill. http://islamonline.net/

Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Welcome to home-schooling as an alternative. I thought I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam….! People sometimes are easily confused.   For example the Bill of Rights has nothing to do with democracy but people sometimes entangle them. So the gist to this is that Adhabuhu is confusing the Hijab being part of Islam? If I take you at your word "I already demonstrated to you that the Hijab has absolutely nothing to do with Islam" then Adhabuhu must be confused. You can ….I wont take a cheap pot shot at you…..(not without warning) However he may not be confused in feeling the Hijab today, right now, in French schools symbolizes adherence to Islam in some way.    I mean why would non-Islamic folks want to ban an otherwise harmless bit of cloth? I dont know… as long as the harmless cloth is being worn without force I see nothing wrong with it… I have not problem with a women *wanting* to wear it …. for a multitude of reasons including comfort and or modesty…. I just have the problems with force…. and I think muslims ought to be educated about its origins…… Thats all… or do you disagree?

I fully agree.

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Whenever anyone wanted to have a game of armies (i.e, if a bunch of boys wanted to have a game of armies), they did so by employing a rather curious series of tactics. Obviously I’m a bit pissed, but this doesn’t necesssarily detract from the validity of…what I’m going on about. Right? OK. So…where was I? I recall. What they done was, they formed a small core of…well, I suppose…War Adherents (oh Christ, I think I understand the current international situation now). These CA’s would proceed to run up and down the schoolyard (beyond the confines of the same schoolyard, these huge, fuckoff dumper trucks would be constantly ferrying betwixt Other Destinations and Abernant, the colliery up the road). Anyhow, it was actually funny as fuck, because the CA contingent would almost reasonably drone out "WHO WANTS A GAME OF ARRRR…MIES?". Thing is, whoever wasn’t a girl [I got the feeling that the girls had a strange supernatural sort of understanding of when such a gender-excluding undertaking was going to happen, so generally they seemed to get out of the way and nestled in out-of-the-way corners] had a tendency to be inextricably "tagged" by the evolutionary CA. So, really it was a draft which you couldn’t really avoid. To be honest, none of the boys who got ensared in the resultant increasingly growing chain of militant boys really had a chance of registering whichever ethical difficulty that they might individually have with the whole thing. To be tagged by the Chain, was to be Involuntarily Drafted! To think of it now, I reckon the most fun was in the initial stages where the Recruitment was going on; trying to avoid that inexorable process was actually a lot more fun than the actual Staged War itself. Basically when everyone in the whole place who didn’t wear a skirt had been skewered like a fly upon the famed paper, there was the other process of how many teams there were (it depended upon who ruled whichever areas of the school chiz), and basically, whoever figured upon the protection of whichever gang leader, chose that gang leader as whichever evil / neutral / nominally "good" army. All I can recall beyond that was an awful lot of rather crap impressions of people trying to be stealthy, tonnes of "Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh! You’re dead!". Trouble was, having lost all hope of individuality during the conscription process, there were certain folks, including me, who insisted in coming out with sheer shite like, "Jokin’ like, I only got injured…so, I’ve crept up behind you and shot you in the back like, bach!" Anyone with similar memories? Even similar sea anamenones? The Ramones even? Anything? OTS — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 – Release Date: 09/10/2003

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I don’t recall anything on that level of organization, but my I had a friend back then and we both seemed to be interested in making war on someone. Seems like we could cobble together a rag-tag band of guerillas but nothing more, and now there’s paintball guns and all kinds of cool shit for a real mock war.  (Oxymoron.)  By puberty all the other boys were only into sports, but my friend and a few other oddballs had no interest in that crap, but maintained some sort of interest in warfare.  Those paintball guns would have been pretty handy back then… "HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:bmsdi0$pslgm$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Whenever anyone wanted to have a game of armies (i.e, if a bunch of boys > wanted to have a game of armies), they did so by employing a rather curious > series of tactics. Obviously I’m a bit pissed, but this doesn’t necesssarily > detract from the validity of…what I’m going on about. Right? OK. > So…where was I? I recall. > What they done was, they formed a small core of…well, I suppose…War > Adherents (oh Christ, I think I understand the current international > situation now). These CA’s would proceed to run up and down the schoolyard > (beyond the confines of the same schoolyard, these huge, fuckoff dumper > trucks would be constantly ferrying betwixt Other Destinations and Abernant, > the colliery up the road). Anyhow, it was actually funny as fuck, because > the CA contingent would almost reasonably drone out "WHO WANTS A GAME OF > ARRRR…MIES?". Thing is, whoever wasn’t a girl [I got the feeling that the > girls had a strange supernatural sort of understanding of when such a > gender-excluding undertaking was going to happen, so generally they seemed > to get out of the way and nestled in out-of-the-way corners] had a tendency > to be inextricably "tagged" by the evolutionary CA. So, really it was a > draft which you couldn’t really avoid. To be honest, none of the boys who > got ensared in the resultant increasingly growing chain of militant boys > really had a chance of registering whichever ethical difficulty that they > might individually have with the whole thing. To be tagged by the Chain, was > to be Involuntarily Drafted! To think of it now, I reckon the most fun was > in the initial stages where the Recruitment was going on; trying to avoid > that inexorable process was actually a lot more fun than the actual Staged > War itself. Basically when everyone in the whole place who didn’t wear a > skirt had been skewered like a fly upon the famed paper, there was the other > process of how many teams there were (it depended upon who ruled whichever > areas of the school chiz), and basically, whoever figured upon the > protection of whichever gang leader, chose that gang leader as whichever > evil / neutral / nominally "good" army. > All I can recall beyond that was an awful lot of rather crap impressions of > people trying to be stealthy, tonnes of "Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh! You’re dead!". > Trouble was, having lost all hope of individuality during the conscription > process, there were certain folks, including me, who insisted in coming out > with sheer shite like, "Jokin’ like, I only got injured…so, I’ve crept up > behind you and shot you in the back like, bach!" > Anyone with similar memories? Even similar sea anamenones? The Ramones even? > Anything? > OTS > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 – Release Date: 09/10/2003

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In my Primary school (St Peters Roman Catholic in Marlow) the boys used to link arms and form chains that whip-trawled the playground going (you’ll like this) "Ollie ollie in for [insert name of game, lengthened if nec, to the minimum three syllables required for the two-tone sing-song effect]" I never understood why it was always Ollie ollie in for whatever, but one day some Older Boy claimed annoyance at this new-fangled alteration where it used to be the curter "all in for marbles/conkers/soccer etc" so really, it would seem "Ollie" is an extension of "all", what? I don’t remember what the girls did in such cases, I just vaguely have this idea there was a sort of climbing frame in one corner of the playground with a couple of horizontal metal bars. The girls seemed to like nothing more than hanging upside down from these metal bars like monkeys, or bats. In fact from a young age I think my mental definition of "girl" was pretty much that: "like boy, only longer hair and hangs upside down". In the final year at Primary there was a game called Kiss-chase where the boys had to chase the girls and, in the event of catching one, kiss her. It might have worked better if all the boys in the school hadn’t invariably gone after the same girl. Her name IIRC was Eunice Boyle. Personally I preferred marbles. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"HumungousFungusAmongUs" <omega.po…@ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:bmsdi0$pslgm$1@ID-73971.news.uni-berlin.de>… > Whenever anyone wanted to have a game of armies (i.e, if a bunch of boys > wanted to have a game of armies), they did so by employing a rather curious > series of tactics. Obviously I’m a bit pissed, but this doesn’t necesssarily > detract from the validity of…what I’m going on about. Right? OK. > So…where was I? I recall. > What they done was, they formed a small core of…well, I suppose…War > Adherents (oh Christ, I think I understand the current international > situation now). These CA’s would proceed to run up and down the schoolyard > (beyond the confines of the same schoolyard, these huge, fuckoff dumper > trucks would be constantly ferrying betwixt Other Destinations and Abernant, > the colliery up the road). Anyhow, it was actually funny as fuck, because > the CA contingent would almost reasonably drone out "WHO WANTS A GAME OF > ARRRR…MIES?". Thing is, whoever wasn’t a girl [I got the feeling that the > girls had a strange supernatural sort of understanding of when such a > gender-excluding undertaking was going to happen, so generally they seemed > to get out of the way and nestled in out-of-the-way corners] had a tendency > to be inextricably "tagged" by the evolutionary CA. So, really it was a > draft which you couldn’t really avoid. To be honest, none of the boys who > got ensared in the resultant increasingly growing chain of militant boys > really had a chance of registering whichever ethical difficulty that they > might individually have with the whole thing. To be tagged by the Chain, was > to be Involuntarily Drafted! To think of it now, I reckon the most fun was > in the initial stages where the Recruitment was going on; trying to avoid > that inexorable process was actually a lot more fun than the actual Staged > War itself. Basically when everyone in the whole place who didn’t wear a > skirt had been skewered like a fly upon the famed paper, there was the other > process of how many teams there were (it depended upon who ruled whichever > areas of the school chiz), and basically, whoever figured upon the > protection of whichever gang leader, chose that gang leader as whichever > evil / neutral / nominally "good" army. > All I can recall beyond that was an awful lot of rather crap impressions of > people trying to be stealthy, tonnes of "Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh! You’re dead!". > Trouble was, having lost all hope of individuality during the conscription > process, there were certain folks, including me, who insisted in coming out > with sheer shite like, "Jokin’ like, I only got injured…so, I’ve crept up > behind you and shot you in the back like, bach!" > Anyone with similar memories? Even similar sea anamenones? The Ramones even? > Anything? > OTS > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 – Release Date: 09/10/2003

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Hehehehe:):) Your description of it makes it come to life:). Fun:). Most I remember of our games of the kind was that it always ended up with soemoen saying they too wanted to be leader, then the next one sayoing "me too!!", where we woudl end up calling on a boss, the other the chief, the next one the commandant, etc, so that everyone had their childhoodly-correct title distributed in all equity, wth everyone feeling they were equals. As for the game, it ended up one where there really was always too mnay chiefs and no indians;-), where we woudl invent the next thing to play and do the same thing all over again:). See what we did when we grew up? All that politically correct rubbish…:) Anyway. To make sure there were ""indians"", I’d volunteer and make the role so out of character, everyone then wanted to be an ""indian"", which turned out to be way more fun:), cause the second someone volunteered to be a "chief", we’d have a good rebellion, and strip the chief of his imaginative feathers/decorations/medals of honnor:):), tell him/her he was now dead, and leave him/her in the corner until he’she figured out he’she would rather be an ""indian"":) Another childhood game I remember we played was when mom would wash and wax the dining room floors. To see them chairs in the corridor always gave us the idea of playing bus. At forst, we played each week that whoever was the bus driver was a bad driver. If he turned left, which was known by how the driver would lean to the left:), we’d all do the same, and even pretend flying out the window, holding on to the bumper, whatever, having a hysterical ball:). Until one day I played driver again, and once everyone sat down, pretended to drive in a straight line a few seconds, really sow, then mimmicked puttign on the hand brakes and declared "Terminal! Everyone gets off!". Heheheeh:). Of course, there were protests. My sisters moaning it was no game, that they refused to "get off the bus". Where I then woudl become the mad driver needing to get them off as if his life depended on it, pulling them by the arm and dragging them "off the bus"" while the next one already shouted "Me too! Me too! Drag me off the bus!!" in loud laughter:). I was a pain in the butt to my poor sibblings when playing games:). They woudl try and do the same thing as I had done, the next time, but by then I already had come up wiht another idea:). For instance, once they played the driver that decalred "everyone off the bus", contrary to them, I;d go, as a passenger "We will NOT be thrown out. We paid for this ride, did we not?? Let’s kick the DRIVER off the bus!", which meant pushing whoever was the driver off the limits defining the ""bus"", i.e. beyind the two rows of chairs. My two younger sisters hated me for coming up with those ideasall the time that changed the game on them:), and stopped talking to me when they became teens:). One of them talked to me again last summer for the first time in a decade and a half. The other, well, I have not heard from her in ages, and learned that a friend of mine works with her. The friend had not even a clue she was my sister, as we have a different family name (she is married). When she learne,d she later mentioned knowing me to her, even if I had told her to not bother with that at all. I then heard from the friend that called me to say that "your sister says she does not know you, that she disowned you a long time ago". That much for political correctedness and for "power to the bus riders, not drivers"LOL:). I guess she just had this unsatisfied urge to play "terminal, everyone off the bus" in real life, since she never quite could make it as she wanted inthe kids game . Pfft. Baaaaad, bad, bad Chloe:) Thank God, I coudo play all those gameds again with kiddo:), who fast would find ways to chnage the role around and be creative with them as he pleased, instead of resenting creativity:). C – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -"HumungousFungusAmongUs" (omega.po…@ntlworld.com) writes: > Whenever anyone wanted to have a game of armies (i.e, if a bunch of boys > wanted to have a game of armies), they did so by employing a rather curious > series of tactics. Obviously I’m a bit pissed, but this doesn’t necesssarily > detract from the validity of…what I’m going on about. Right? OK. > So…where was I? I recall. > What they done was, they formed a small core of…well, I suppose…War > Adherents (oh Christ, I think I understand the current international > situation now). These CA’s would proceed to run up and down the schoolyard > (beyond the confines of the same schoolyard, these huge, fuckoff dumper > trucks would be constantly ferrying betwixt Other Destinations and Abernant, > the colliery up the road). Anyhow, it was actually funny as fuck, because > the CA contingent would almost reasonably drone out "WHO WANTS A GAME OF > ARRRR…MIES?". Thing is, whoever wasn’t a girl [I got the feeling that the > girls had a strange supernatural sort of understanding of when such a > gender-excluding undertaking was going to happen, so generally they seemed > to get out of the way and nestled in out-of-the-way corners] had a tendency > to be inextricably "tagged" by the evolutionary CA. So, really it was a > draft which you couldn’t really avoid. To be honest, none of the boys who > got ensared in the resultant increasingly growing chain of militant boys > really had a chance of registering whichever ethical difficulty that they > might individually have with the whole thing. To be tagged by the Chain, was > to be Involuntarily Drafted! To think of it now, I reckon the most fun was > in the initial stages where the Recruitment was going on; trying to avoid > that inexorable process was actually a lot more fun than the actual Staged > War itself. Basically when everyone in the whole place who didn’t wear a > skirt had been skewered like a fly upon the famed paper, there was the other > process of how many teams there were (it depended upon who ruled whichever > areas of the school chiz), and basically, whoever figured upon the > protection of whichever gang leader, chose that gang leader as whichever > evil / neutral / nominally "good" army. > All I can recall beyond that was an awful lot of rather crap impressions of > people trying to be stealthy, tonnes of "Eh-eh-eh-eh-eh! You’re dead!". > Trouble was, having lost all hope of individuality during the conscription > process, there were certain folks, including me, who insisted in coming out > with sheer shite like, "Jokin’ like, I only got injured…so, I’ve crept up > behind you and shot you in the back like, bach!" > Anyone with similar memories? Even similar sea anamenones? The Ramones even? > Anything? > OTS > — > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.525 / Virus Database: 322 – Release Date: 09/10/2003

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Tough.

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Tough.

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Tough. Yes, it must be tough being a bitter boy.

I do have to be on call 24 hours a day depending on when the female alarm goes off.

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done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: An independent Baptist parochial school in Lexington, North Carolina (Sheets Memorial Christian School) removed a 15-year-old student, Ben Holmes, because the boy is a Catholic. Nonsense. He would have had to commit some offense, nor merely ‘be expelled because he is a Catholic’. This is ridiculous.

You haven’t spent much time in the South, have you? It’s the home of Bob Jones University.

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went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: Well, we can’t embrace the philosophy of unity because that would mean that too many people would have to put down the anger, hatred & ego. And you can’t DO that, can you Larson?

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went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: readded the roman-catholic newsgroup, since you, being a coward snipped it so that you wouldn’t be responded to. Or did he snip it because it has nothing to do with our CHRISTIAN BAPTIST group?

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done went and wrote as Gospel Truth in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: An independent Baptist parochial school in Lexington, North Carolina (Sheets Memorial Christian School) removed a 15-year-old student, Ben Holmes, because the boy is a Catholic. Nonsense.

So you say… but at least He would have had to commit some offense, nor merely ‘be expelled because he is a Catholic’. This is ridiculous.

Given the sort of idiotic comments and opinions you state about Catholics, and you’re a Baptist… no, it’s not that ridiculous.  Have a Baptist school run by morons like you & John W.  and I can see that you would be kicking Catholic students out because you are too stupid to recognize that you’ve been lied to about the Catholic faith by a bunch of non-Catholics. Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com – Still Only $9.95 – http://www.uncensored-news.com       <<<<<<<   The Worlds Uncensored News Source   <<<<<<<<

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An independent Baptist parochial school in Lexington, North Carolina (Sheets Memorial Christian School) removed a 15-year-old student, Ben Holmes, because the boy is a Catholic. Holmes had attended the school for the past academic year because there is no Catholic high school in the vicinity. The school administrator, Dan Hightower, said, "Baptist doctrine and teachings do not complement the Catholic doctrine and teachings. Home, school and church have to complement one another."   The school’s policy claims that it admits students "whose parents are in agreement with the Christian philosophy, purposes and standards of the school." –excerpt from "Voice of Reason: Newsletter of Americans for Religious Liberty"

Interesting. I went to a private school that wasn’t a Catholic one, and I wouldn’t say I was persecuted against, but I would definitely say I was looked down upon. There were many anti-Catholic and tasteless jokes running around that were hurtful. I can remember multiple times that I had to go through the third degree because I refused to answer questions in the protestant ran history books that were based upon false information. I had documented proof that they were wrong and therefore got out of some of it, but then again I loved history when I was in high school so it didn’t really matter to me that much. I did go through 4 years of bible study. It was a requirement that you had to take a bible course every year of high school in order to graduate. I remember having to explain my faith to much older bible teachers who claimed to have a PhD in theology. It saddens me that there is so much discrimination within Christian religions. Why can we not embrace the philosophy of unity that Christ had? It just seems odd to me. Larry Thibodeaux    http://www.newsfeed.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–= Over 100,000 Newsgroups – Unlimited Fast Downloads – 19 Servers =—–

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – An independent Baptist parochial school in Lexington, North Carolina (Sheets Memorial Christian School) removed a 15-year-old student, Ben Holmes, because the boy is a Catholic. Holmes had attended the school for the past academic year because there is no Catholic high school in the vicinity. The school administrator, Dan Hightower, said, "Baptist doctrine and teachings do not complement the Catholic doctrine and teachings. Home, school and church have to complement one another."   The school’s policy claims that it admits students "whose parents are in agreement with the Christian philosophy, purposes and standards of the school." –excerpt from "Voice of Reason: Newsletter of Americans for Religious Liberty" Interesting. I went to a private school that wasn’t a Catholic one, and I wouldn’t say I was persecuted against, but I would definitely say I was looked down upon. There were many anti-Catholic and tasteless jokes running around that were hurtful. I can remember multiple times that I had to go through the third degree because I refused to answer questions in the protestant ran history books that were based upon false information. I had documented proof that they were wrong and therefore got out of some of it, but then again I loved history when I was in high school so it didn’t really matter to me that much. I did go through 4 years of bible study. It was a requirement that you had to take a bible course every year of high school in order to graduate. I remember having to explain my faith to much older bible teachers who claimed to have a PhD in theology. It saddens me that there is so much discrimination within Christian religions. Why can we not embrace the philosophy of unity that Christ had? It just seems odd to me.

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You are both eternally dead wrong.

I readded the roman-catholic newsgroup, since you, being a coward snipped it so that you wouldn’t be responded to. Your quote unquote spirit of unity is unfounded and contrary to what JESUS said:

No… because we were speaking of unity of Christians. Jesus said tho those who had not accepted Him as Lord and Saviour " Ye are of your father the devil…."

Fine…  We accept Him as our Lord and Savior, as, presumably, our Christian brothers and sisters have also done.  Which is the point of what both Larry & I are saying That is why the Bible exhorts TRUE Christians to not promote novices such as yourselves into positions of authority.

And I can’t wait to hear what you claim are "TRUE" Christians. You both should be asahmed of yourselves for putting yourselves forward as spokesman for Christianity.

I never claimed to be a spokesman for Christianity. " Study to show thyself approved a workman that needeth not to be ASHAMED …" Consider yourselves corrected.

Actually, I’ll consider you to be clueless of what we had said. Shame on you

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An independent Baptist parochial school in Lexington, North Carolina (Sheets Memorial Christian School) removed a 15-year-old student, Ben Holmes, because the boy is a Catholic. Holmes had attended the school for the past academic year because there is no Catholic high school in the vicinity. The school administrator, Dan Hightower, said, "Baptist doctrine and teachings do not complement the Catholic doctrine and teachings. Home, school and church have to complement one another."   The school’s policy claims that it admits students "whose parents are in agreement with the Christian philosophy, purposes and standards of the school." –excerpt from "Voice of Reason: Newsletter of Americans for Religious Liberty"

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I live in New Zealand. Where do you live?

In the US, thanks for asking. One month, two weeks, two days, 10 hours, 13 minutes and 10 seconds. 1185 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.77. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look, I’ll try to believe you do not mean to be nasty. But surely you are not a Israeli living in Israel, because otherwise, I am sure you would understand the pain. One month, two weeks, two days, 9 hours, 50 minutes and 51 seconds. 1185 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.71. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial A bit snippy? In what way have I offended you? I generally try not to be personally offensive. Politics and ideology is another matter. ——- On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event. If we had to measure things the size of the crap that is coming from that thing you call your brain, we wouldn’t need an army but insecticide. One month, two weeks, two days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds. 1184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.56. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial ——- I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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I live in New Zealand. Where do you live?

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look, I’ll try to believe you do not mean to be nasty. But surely you are not a Israeli living in Israel, because otherwise, I am sure you would understand the pain. One month, two weeks, two days, 9 hours, 50 minutes and 51 seconds. 1185 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.71. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial A bit snippy? In what way have I offended you? I generally try not to be personally offensive. Politics and ideology is another matter. ——- On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event. If we had to measure things the size of the crap that is coming from that thing you call your brain, we wouldn’t need an army but insecticide. One month, two weeks, two days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds. 1184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.56. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial ——- I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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Look, I’ll try to believe you do not mean to be nasty. But surely you are not a Israeli living in Israel, because otherwise, I am sure you would understand the pain. One month, two weeks, two days, 9 hours, 50 minutes and 51 seconds. 1185 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.71. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 45 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A bit snippy? In what way have I offended you? I generally try not to be personally offensive. Politics and ideology is another matter. ——- On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event. If we had to measure things the size of the crap that is coming from that thing you call your brain, we wouldn’t need an army but insecticide. One month, two weeks, two days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds. 1184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.56. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial ——- I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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A bit snippy? In what way have I offended you? I generally try not to be personally offensive. Politics and ideology is another matter. ——-

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event. If we had to measure things the size of the crap that is coming from that thing you call your brain, we wouldn’t need an army but insecticide. One month, two weeks, two days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds. 1184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.56. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial ——- I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event.

If we had to measure things the size of the crap that is coming from that thing you call your brain, we wouldn’t need an army but insecticide. One month, two weeks, two days, 8 hours, 55 minutes and 39 seconds. 1184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.56. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 40 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ——- I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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On the other hand, the prospect of retaliation and expunging the offending organisation makes you feel better in general?? Measured reaction in response to the size and/or importance of the event. ——-

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But never as before. Am I being pessimistic? I guess, huh? That is how I feel at the moment. Anyone to help me focus? Things will change for ever. I lived near Kings Cross during the fire of ‘87. Thirty-one people died. There was a funny smell in the air. It wasn’t until later I realised it was burning flesh. Life is different, but it does go on.

I remember I was in primary school, I do not know what grade, and trust me that somehow I do not want to remember exactly when it was, but my classes were often interrupted so we would pray for peace in the world, and the war wouldn’t start. I remember my parents won’t tell a single word to me, so I carried on without knowing exactly what was happening. It was when Kennedy was dealing with the issue of the missiles in Cuba. So, when something like this happens, I think it is stuff for adults. And today I hate to be an adult. Life goes on, but we have to heal the wounds, overcome fear, recover from trauma, and cling to hope. Where is hope? Where is hope when you feel raped? Where is hope when you feel stabbed to death? It must be somewhere if life is to go on, as you say. Could you point me to it? One month, two weeks, two days, 7 hours, 45 minutes and 42 seconds. 1183 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.38. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 35 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial

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But never as before. Am I being pessimistic? I guess, huh? That is how I

feel at the moment. Anyone to help me focus? Things will change for ever. I lived near Kings Cross during the fire of ‘87. Thirty-one people died. There was a funny smell in the air. It wasn’t until later I realised it was burning flesh. Life is different, but it does go on. Bri

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It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on.

But never as before. Am I being pessimistic? I guess, huh? That is how I feel at the moment. Anyone to help me focus? One month, two weeks, two days, 7 hours, 26 minutes and 34 seconds. 1182 cigarettes not smoked, saving $183.33. Life saved: 4 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes. — Teilhard The Extraterrestrial

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I am celebrating the life of the political activist Steve Biko on the twenty-fourth anniversary of his death. Steve wanted to make his country and the world a better place for everyone. On this sombre day it is a reminder to me that violence achieves nothing, whether in attack or retaliation. It is also a reminder to most of us that life goes on. The spirit has flown. Bri

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Steve Biko was born in King Williams town in 1946. He completed his schooling in 1965 at St Francis College, a Roman Catholic school in Marianhill near Pinetownand won a bursary to study medicine at the University of Natal. While at university, he joined the struggle for human rights among black people and was elected president of SASO (The South-African Students Organisation). In 1972 he was suspended from university as a result of his political activities and his studies were over. As an activist he was arrested and detained in custody several times from 1972, including 137 days in 1975 and 101 days in 1976. Every time he was released the banning orders laid on him in 1972 were applied more strictly. In March and July 1977 he was arrested, only to be released later not guilty. During the night of 18 August 1977 he was arrested outside the King Williams Town district on the charge that he has broken his banning orders, and detained in terms of the Terrorism act, 1967 (Act no 83 of 1967). Biko died in Pretoria on 12 September 1977. The former Minister of Law Order, Mr Jimmy Kruger declared that he died as a result of a hunger strike of 6 days. After growing protest the official statement was corrected from hunger strike to death as a result of brain damage which he incurred during the questioning by the security police. Biko was never found guilty of any of the accusations against him accept the breaking of his banning orders. After his death he was falsely accused of participating in sabotage and unrest. ~ (South African Police Service Museum) Yihla Moja Bri

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mary "Mother" Jones 1830 Labor agitator– for coal miners.  Appropriate birthday. Mother Jones is buried near where I live. My kind of woman! Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.       –Hunter S. thompson Isn’t the magazine named after her?

yep! Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.        –Hunter S. thompson

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Mary "Mother" Jones 1830 Labor agitator– for coal miners.  Appropriate birthday. Mother Jones is buried near where I live. My kind of woman! Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.       –Hunter S. thompson

Isn’t the magazine named after her?

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mary’s three c’s: cursing computers cuervo

cheez

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i didn’t get the original post, but Mayj 20-26 is national EMS week.

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Mary "Mother" Jones 1830

Labor agitator– for coal miners.  Appropriate birthday. Mother Jones is buried near where I live. My kind of woman! Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.        –Hunter S. thompson

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – May 1 – 8 is: National "Get Happy Week" (dedicated to the three Cs: caring,    connection and community) (http://www.thehappycompany.com) BAHAHAHAHA! what does it say about me that this just makes me want to yak? there should be an emoticon for hurling. maybe: :O******* "the happy company," is that for real? "the three c’s?" mercy.

mary’s three c’s: cursing computers cuervo

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May 1 – 8 is: National "Get Happy Week" (dedicated to the three Cs: caring,    connection and community) (http://www.thehappycompany.com) BAHAHAHAHA! what does it say about me that this just makes me want to yak?

there should be an emoticon for hurling. maybe: :O******* "the happy company," is that for real? "the three c’s?" mercy. j.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tuesday, May 1, 2001 [selective snippage] today is: Mother Goose Day (to appreciate the old nursery rhymes of your    youth) (http://www.gbalc.org/MotherGooseSociety) National Peace of Mind Week (to work on knowing that you’re doing    your best at any given time, accepting yourself unconditionally,    forgiving yourself and others, having faith and allowing love    and joy into your heart) (http://www.cwlauro.com) Pen-Friends Week International (to encourage everyone to have one    or more pen-friends in your own country and in other countries    as well) May 1 – 8 is: National "Get Happy Week" (dedicated to the three Cs: caring,    connection and community) (http://www.thehappycompany.com) BAHAHAHAHA! what does it say about me that this just makes me want to yak? May 1 – 31 is: National Mental Health Month (http://www.nmha.org) heyhey american depressoids, IT’S OUR MONTH!!! incidentally, there are a lot of freakin random official days/weeks/months. today’s birthdays: Joseph Addison 1672 Mary "Mother" Jones 1830 Kate Smith 1909 singer, right? Gwyllyn "Glenn" Ford 1916 actor Jack Paar 1917 talk show host Dan O’Herlihy 1919 no clue Joseph Heller 1923 author Art Fleming 1924

To beat the clock? tv announcer – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Terry Southern 1924 Sonny James (James Loden) 1929 Joan Hackett 1934 Judy Collins 1939 Rita Coolidge 1945 singers Ray Parker, Jr. 1954 singer. "i’m in luuuvvv, with the other wo-man" Tim McGraw 1967 country singer

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Tuesday, May 1, 2001

[selective snippage] – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – today is: Mother Goose Day (to appreciate the old nursery rhymes of your    youth) (http://www.gbalc.org/MotherGooseSociety) National Peace of Mind Week (to work on knowing that you’re doing    your best at any given time, accepting yourself unconditionally,    forgiving yourself and others, having faith and allowing love    and joy into your heart) (http://www.cwlauro.com) Pen-Friends Week International (to encourage everyone to have one    or more pen-friends in your own country and in other countries    as well) May 1 – 8 is: National "Get Happy Week" (dedicated to the three Cs: caring,    connection and community) (http://www.thehappycompany.com)

BAHAHAHAHA! what does it say about me that this just makes me want to yak? May 1 – 31 is: National Mental Health Month (http://www.nmha.org)

heyhey american depressoids, IT’S OUR MONTH!!! incidentally, there are a lot of freakin random official days/weeks/months. today’s birthdays: Joseph Addison 1672 Mary "Mother" Jones 1830 Kate Smith 1909

singer, right? Gwyllyn "Glenn" Ford 1916

actor Jack Paar 1917

talk show host Dan O’Herlihy 1919

no clue Joseph Heller 1923

author Art Fleming 1924 Terry Southern 1924 Sonny James (James Loden) 1929 Joan Hackett 1934 Judy Collins 1939 Rita Coolidge 1945

singers Ray Parker, Jr. 1954

singer. "i’m in luuuvvv, with the other wo-man" Tim McGraw 1967

country singer

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Tuesday, May 1, 2001 today is: Executive Coaching Day (to applaud all organizational leaders who    take their profession seriously enough to improve their skills    through coaching, and to encourage others to utilize coaching to    improve their capacity to effectively lead their organizations)    (http://www.exe-coach.com) Feast of Saint Philip and Saint James the Apostles (Episcopalian    and Anglican observance) Feast of the prophet Jeremiah (Eastern Orthodox observance;    observed by Old Calendar Eastern Orthodox on May 14) Labor Day (worldwide workers holiday; observed in September in    Bermuda, Canada and the U.S.) Law Day Loyalty Day May Day (celebrated as a holiday since ancient times, with spring    festivals, maypoles and maying; now widely observed throughout    the world as a workers’ holiday) Memorial of Saint Joseph the Worker (Roman Catholic observance;    patron of carpenters, fathers, happy death, house hunting,    laborers, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Mexio, Peru and Vietnam;    invoked against communism and doubt) Mother Goose Day (to appreciate the old nursery rhymes of your    youth) (http://www.gbalc.org/MotherGooseSociety) New Homeowner’s Day (to take the time as a new homeowner to stand    back and reflect on your new dwelling and savor the feeling) Saint Tamenend’s Day (Colonial-era May Day celebration in honor of    Native American sage Chief Tamenend, canonized by fun-loving    young colonists asserting independence from old-world patrons;    modern celebrants, tired of overly serious political    observances, identify themselves by pinning dollar bills to    their jackets) Save the Rhino Day (encouraging efforts to halt the extinction of    rhinoceri) School Principals’ Day (in recognition of all elementary, middle    and high school principals for their leadership and dedication) Lei Day in Hawaii (Hawaiian version of May Day, when leis are made,    worn, given and displayed) Constitution Day in the Republic of the Marshall Islands Feast of Our Lady of Peace and Good Voyage in the Philippines May 1 – 2 is: International Labor Day in Russia (official May Day demonstration    of working people) May 1 – 6 is: National Spiritual Recommitment Week (for each of us to assess,    alter and act on our commitments to our spiritual lives) May 1 – 7 is: Bread Pudding Recipe Exchange (dedicated to the exchange of    creative bread pudding recipes) National Connecting Week (recognizing the need to work on    developing new relationships and trying new interests) National Peace of Mind Week (to work on knowing that you’re doing    your best at any given time, accepting yourself unconditionally,    forgiving yourself and others, having faith and allowing love    and joy into your heart) (http://www.cwlauro.com) Pen-Friends Week International (to encourage everyone to have one    or more pen-friends in your own country and in other countries    as well) May 1 – 8 is: National "Get Happy Week" (dedicated to the three Cs: caring,    connection and community) (http://www.thehapycompany.com) May 1 – 31 is: Asian Pacific American Heritage Month Better Hearing and Speech Month (to inform the 41 million U.S.    residents with hearing and speech problems that help is    available) Better Sleep Month (emphasizing the importance of good sleep to    good health, and encouraging everyone to reevaluate their    bedtime habits and check bedding for signs of age)    (http://www.bettersleep.org/month.htm) Creative Beginnings Month (a time to discover something new about    yourself and tap into your full creative potential) Family Support Month (to support families with children during    divorce, separation and custody issues, promoting respect for    mother/child relationships) Fibromyalgia Education and Awareness Month (to promote education    and awareness of the dangers of fibromyalgia, also known as the    fibromyalgia syndrome, fibrositis or chronic muscle pain    syndrome) (http://www.ppsinc.org) Get Caught Reading Month (with celebrities appealing to people of    all ages to remind them of the joys of reading)    (http://www.publishers.org or http://www.getcaughtreading.org) International Business Image Improvement Month (to promote    improving your business image to set the tone of how successful    your company will be) (http://www.debbieallen.com) Melanoma/Skin Cancer Detection and Prevention Month    (http://www.aad.org) More Than Just a Pretty Face Month (a time to begin preparing your    skin for the summer) (http://www.faceworksdayspa.com) National Allergy/Asthma Awareness Month (http://www.ppsinc.org) National Artisan Gelato Month (to celebrate the nation’s new love    for gelato–Italian ice cream–and the art of artisan gelato    making) National Barbecue Month (to start enjoying barbecing early in the    season when Daylight Saving Time lengthens the day) National Bike Month (endorsing bicycling for recreation and    transportation) (http://www.bikeleague.org) National Correct Posture Month (http://www.amerchiro.org) National Digestive Diseases Awareness Month National Egg Month (dedicated to the versatility, convenience,    economy and good nutrition of eggs) (http://www.aeb.org) National GoMingle Month (recognizing the need for people to get out    into the real world and mingle with new people while exploring    similar interests) (http://www.gomingle.com) National Good Car-Keeping Month (to promote increased safety and    value through good automobile maintenance) National Hamburger Month (to pay tribute to one of the nation’s    favorite foods) (http://www.whitecastle.com) National Hepatitis Awareness Month (http://www.hepfi.org) National High Blood Pressure Education Month (to promote the    control and treatment of high blood pressure)    (http://www.hibi.nih.gov/nhibi/nhibi.htm) National Mental Health Month (http://www.nmha.org) National Neurofibromatosis Awareness Month (http://www.nf.org) National Osteoporosis Prevention Month (http://www.nof.org) National Physical Fitness and Sports Month (encouraging individuals    and organizations to promote fitness activities and programs) National Prom Graduation Safety Month (to make high school    students, parents and educators aware of the dangers of drinking    and driving and the importance of making responsible decisions)    (http://www.centurycouncil.org) National Recommitment Month (for each of us to assess, alter and    act on our commitments to our spiritual, personal, marital,    family and work lives) National Salad Month (celebrating the role salads play in today’s    healthy lifestyle) (http://www.dressings-sauces.org) National Salsa Month (recognizing one of the nation’s favorite ways    to add flavor to various kinds of foods by adding picante sauce)    (http://www.pacefoods.com) National Scholarship Month (to applaud those organizations,    businesses, individuals and communities that help students by    bestowing scholarships, and to increase awareness of the need    for more private-sector aid for students) (http://www.csfa.org) National Sight-Saving Month (devoted to increased awareness of    vision health and vision safety) National Stroke Awareness Month (http://www.stroke.org) National Teaching and Joy Month (celebrating the joy of great    teaching and great learning; a time to thank a teacher for    creating an atmosphere of joy, and for teachers to acknowledge    those students who demonstrate a love of learning) National Tuberous Sclerosis Awareness Month (http://www.ntsa.org) Older Americans Month Radio Emergency Associated Communication Teams Month (highlighting    safety education in the correct emergency use of citizens band    radio to travelers) (http://www.reactintl.org/) Revise Your Work Schedule Month (to increase awareness, exploration    and implementation of non-traditional work schedules such as    flextime, telecommuting, job sharing and compressed work weeks) Sight-Saving Ultraviolet Awareness Month (to call attention to the    damage UV rays can do to the eyes)    (http://www.preventblindness.org) Strike Out Strokes Month (dedicated to the prevention of strokes    with proper medical treatment and healthful lifestyle    adjustments) (http://www.ppsinc.org) U.S.A. Tennis Month (http://www.usta.com) Women’s Health Care Month (devoted to increasing awareness of the    many health concerns unique to women) (http://www.ppsinc.org) Law Enforcement Appreciation Month in Florida Senior Citizens Month in Massachusetts Santacruzan in the Philippines (pageant-procession recalling the    quest of Queen Helena and Prince Constantine for the Holy Cross) May 1 – October 31 is: Gazpacho Aficionado Time (observed while tomatoes are ripe, as a    time to appreciate one of Spain’s finest contributions to    international cuisine) today’s birthdays: Joseph Addison 1672 Mary "Mother" Jones 1830 Kate Smith 1909 Gwyllyn "Glenn" Ford 1916 Jack Paar 1917 Dan O’Herlihy 1919 Joseph Heller 1923 Art Fleming 1924 Terry Southern 1924 Sonny James (James Loden) 1929 Joan Hackett 1934 Judy Collins 1939 Rita Coolidge 1945 John Woo (Yusen Wu) 1946 Ray Parker, Jr. 1954 Steve Cauthen 1960 Tim McGraw 1967

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The actress on The Facts of Life…her character was Jo.  Can’t ever resist trying to feel smart. : )

Ah yes, that is right.  Blair, Jo, Natalie and Tootie.   I saw the girl who played Tootie do an interview the other day.  She certainly grew up!  Wonder if she’s single… Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.        –Hunter S. thompson

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Thank You, School Librarian Day (recognizing the unique   contribution made by school librarians who support the   educational needs of faculty, staff, students and parents all   year long)

<takes bow Although, I will only be a librarian for two more weeks  :-) Eric When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.        –Hunter S. thompson

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The actress on The Facts of Life…her character was Jo.  Can’t ever resist trying to feel smart. : )

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today’s birthdays: Linus Yale 1821 Isoroku Yamamoto 1884 Tris Speaker 1888 ?

Center Fielder.  Hall of Fame. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Arthur Murray 1895 A chain of dance instruction schools was named after him Bea Benaderet 1906 she played Kate on Petticoat Junction, she was on Burns & Allen as well John Cameron Swayze 1906 Wore a Timex that "takes a licking, keeps on ticking" Richad Coogan 1914 Marguerite Duras (Marguerite Donnadieu) 1914 Rosemary Lane (Rosemary Mullican) 1914 ? Muddy Waters (McKinley Morganfield) 1915 Blues musician David White 1916 Eric Rohmer 1920 ? Elmer Bernstein 1922 composer of movie music, one of my favorites is the music for To Kill A Mockingbird Peter Vaughan (Peter Olm) 1923 Elizabeth Wilson 1925 ? Maya Angelou 1928 poet Yasser Arafat (Muhammad ‘Abd Ar-Ra’uf Al-Qudwah Al-Husayni) 1929 Palestinian(?) leader Richard Lugar 1932 ?

Senior Senator from Indiana (R).  Moderate-conservative. Well-respected in foreign policy and armed services issues. Anthony Perkins 1932 actor, most know for his role in Psycho but also in a great movie called On The Beach Andrei Tarkovsky 1932 Trevor Griffiths 1935 A. Bartlett Giamatti 1938 ?

Former commissioner of baseball. Michael Parks 1938 actor, in Then Came Bronson? Hugh Masekela 1939 Major Lance 1941 ? Craig T. Nelson 1946 actor, in Coach among many other things Christine Lahti 1950 actress–trying to picture her but can’t

She was on Chicago Hope as Kate Austin. Aki Kaurism