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pontificated: The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week, Saturday, that God hallowed, and determined that it was SO important that He made it one of the ten commandments set in stone. THAT’S the best an omnipotent God can do when something is SO important? MAN can do that.
So you would say that God should communicate to man in a way man can understand and yet, insult God when He does. How nice. — Pastor Dave Raymond "I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation." – Psalm 119:99 / o{}xxxxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" – Ephesians 6:17
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ? My understanding of this is Moses’ commandment of keeping the Sabbath holy as being the 7th day of the week (Saturday) is mearly the "image" of the true Sabbath when God rested after the creation. This true Sabbath, when God rested, in my opinion, doesn’t speak of a day as such, but of an era where man is given the responsibility of taking good care of his creation, in obediance to His laws. Therefore, the true Sabbath is not a single day but every moment of ones life.
The word of God says it is a day. The creation is referenced with the work week and the Sabbath. Exodus 20:8-11 
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. You either believe God, or you don’t. He said "six days". Anything else you say, is adding to the Bible, since the Bible says, "six days". You theistic evolutionists, can speculate about the "six days" all you want, but that’s all you have, is speculation. When you try to make it into millions of years, you have a big problem Scripturally. Speaking of this seven day period (six days and the Sabbath) and keeping the statement about this six days in the context in which it is quoted from, did God command man to work six millions years and rest for one million years? No. It’s clear that He is talking about six literal days of Creation, when the passage is taken in context. In order to make it anything other than six literal days, you have to rip it out of its context, which is the Sabbath day rest. The fact is, that "In the beginning, God created"… And He did it in six days and said He did it in six days (Exodus 20:11). Jesus believed that and referenced it, in Matthew 19:3-8 and in other places. Going back to Genesis, it is important to note something about the word usage there in the original language (Hebrew). The original Hebrew word for "day" ("yom"), is never used to mean anything but a literal day in the Bible, when a numerical adjective is present ("second, third, etc.). Are we to believe that this is somehow the one and only exception and that God would start out His word with a deception? Now people will try to tell me that God used language that "ignorant, primitive man could understand". That’s ridiculous! First off, man was a lot smarter then, than we give him credit for. Language, for example, gets much more complex, the farther we go back and it has taken scholars decades to even begin to decipher some of them. The Egyptians had batteries thousands of years ago, etc.. Secondly, what is so hard to understand about God saying… "First there were animals, including apes and God brought man forth from these apes". No, it isn’t difficult at all to tell man in that time, that we came from apes. You may claim that man wouldn’t understand the mechanisms involved. Well, even if everything was created in six days, as I contend, man still wouldn’t understand the mechanisms involved. In fact, we still wouldn’t now, so what’s the difference? — Pastor Dave Raymond "I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation." – Psalm 119:99 / o{}xxxxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" – Ephesians 6:17
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Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ?
My understanding of this is Moses’ commandment of keeping the Sabbath holy as being the 7th day of the week (Saturday) is mearly the "image" of the true Sabbath when God rested after the creation. This true Sabbath, when God rested, in my opinion, doesn’t speak of a day as such, but of an era where man is given the responsibility of taking good care of his creation, in obediance to His laws. Therefore, the true Sabbath is not a single day but every moment of ones life. Since humanity could not have the capacity of keeping the commandement, due to the fallen nature received after the fall, a New creation/birth was needed for humanity to receive in order to be capable of following God’s law, and this was accomplished on the first day of the New Creation, that is, on the day of the resurection(Sunday), which, in itself is, again, a type/symbol of the true day of the New creation being the day of the General Resurection. Therefore, a catholic christian follows Sunday instead of Saturday as symbolically looking towards the day of resurection instead of working in trying to follow God’s law through our fallen nature. Andre
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THAT’S the best an omnipotent God can do when something is SO important? MAN can do that. It’s SO important that not only is His handiwork here indistinguishable from anyone who owned a chisel, but His handiwork isn’t even around anymore for folks to be impressed by it, this being a good deal LESS impressive than many stones carved by men. For all the supposed things God is supposed to have done, all we are really left with is a human being standing here, pointing to a storybook, and telling me it’s true. Impress us if you’re going to impress us, is all I’m saying.
Impress me by writing ten commandments in stone with just YOUR finger, as God did. — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com
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1) Can you keep the whole commandments of God ? Not failing even to one ? Of course, it is easy when you LOVE GOD with ALL of your heart, mind, soul and STRENGTH, as well as with the conviction, guidance and help of the Holy Spirit, disciplining yourself into His kingdom, ways, will, spirit and truth.
Ga:3:22: But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
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1) Can you keep the whole commandments of God ? Not failing even to one ? Of course, it is easy when you LOVE GOD with ALL of your heart, mind, soul and STRENGTH, as well as with the conviction, guidance and help of the Holy Spirit, disciplining yourself into His kingdom, ways, will, spirit and truth.
1John1:8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. I can’t believe you think you’re perfect and sinless. 2) When that "Sabbath rest" was first preached, did anyone entered into that rest ? As I said, the Jews did after Moses came down from the mountain and still honor the seventh day, Saturday, as the Sabbath today.
Heb:4:4: For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. Heb:4:5: And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. Heb:4:6: Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
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WHO is to observe Sabbath? 16. The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath… WHO? 17 It will be a sign between me and the ISRAELITES forever…
And who are the NEW Jews, the NEW Israelites after the new covenant was given? The Sabbath, as ALL commandments are for ALL of God’s children. Rom 2:28-29 28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God Matt 21:43 43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. Luke 20:14-16 14 But when the husbandmen saw him, they reasoned among themselves, saying, This is the heir: come, let us kill him, that the inheritance may be ours. 15 So they cast him out of the vineyard, and killed him. What therefore shall the lord of the vineyard do unto them? 16 He shall come and destroy these husbandmen, and shall give the vineyard to others. And when they heard it, they said, God forbid. Matt 9:15-17 15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast. 16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse. 17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved. — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the group) "Who is to observe Sabbath?" The Israelites (the Jews) are to observe Sabbath… NO, the ten commandments, including the seventh day Sabbath, was written in STONE by the hand of God for ALL mankind to honor and obey, NOT just the Israelites. Yes! EX 31:16-17 16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.’ " WHO is to observe Sabbath? 16. The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath… WHO? 17 It will be a sign between me and the ISRAELITES forever… jw Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. KJV And the Christians’ "Sabbath rest" is Jesus Christ. Christ also said to observe the commandments. Matt 19:16-17 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. KJV God bless! j w
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1) Can you keep the whole commandments of God ? Not failing even to one ?
Of course, it is easy when you LOVE GOD with ALL of your heart, mind, soul and STRENGTH, as well as with the conviction, guidance and help of the Holy Spirit, disciplining yourself into His kingdom, ways, will, spirit and truth. cont 2) When that "Sabbath rest" was first preached, did anyone entered into that rest ?
As I said, the Jews did after Moses came down from the mountain and still honor the seventh day, Saturday, as the Sabbath today. — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "Who is to observe Sabbath?" The Israelites (the Jews) are to observe Sabbath… NO, the ten commandments, including the seventh day Sabbath, was written in STONE by the hand of God for ALL mankind to honor and obey, NOT just the Israelites. Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. KJV And the Christians’ "Sabbath rest" is Jesus Christ. Christ also said to observe the commandments. Christ gave us meaning to the OT laws & commandments. Matt 19:16-17 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. KJV — Dore 1) Can you keep the whole commandments of God ? Not failing even to one ? 2) When that "Sabbath rest" was first preached, did anyone entered into that rest ?
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WHY NOT ASK GOD ABOUT THE SABBATH A. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Matt. 5:17
What was the purpose or meaning of the Sabbath rest? Did it really happen? What was it all about? Do you know how the Sabbath rest was fulfilled? THINK before answering.
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The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week, Saturday, that God hallowed, and determined that it was SO important that He made it one of the ten commandments set in stone.
THAT’S the best an omnipotent God can do when something is SO important? MAN can do that. It’s SO important that not only is His handiwork here indistinguishable from anyone who owned a chisel, but His handiwork isn’t even around anymore for folks to be impressed by it, this being a good deal LESS impressive than many stones carved by men. For all the supposed things God is supposed to have done, all we are really left with is a human being standing here, pointing to a storybook, and telling me it’s true. Impress us if you’re going to impress us, is all I’m saying.
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WHY NOT ASK GOD ABOUT THE SABBATH … It’s easy to put verses together which is out of context. Answer this: Is that saturday (7th day of the week), is the same 7th day of the week on that day when God rested ? Are you so sure that the days stays the same in sequence order up to now ? read Isaiah 58:12-14
You didn’t understand the question. Is the count or numbering system in days that we use now in this period of time is the same as in the beginning ? What if 1 day was added to adjust the season, or when using BC & AD, the names or start count of days changed or similar to that.
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Christ gave us meaning to the OT laws & commandments. Matt 19:16-17 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. KJV — Dore
1) Can you keep the whole commandments of God ? Not failing even to one ? 2) When that "Sabbath rest" was first preached, did anyone entered into that rest ?
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Yes. The "Sabbath" in the Old Testament was a very special event signifying a very special relationship between God and the Israelis.
Israelis?
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"Who is to observe Sabbath?" The Israelites (the Jews) are to observe Sabbath…
NO, the ten commandments, including the seventh day Sabbath, was written in STONE by the hand of God for ALL mankind to honor and obey, NOT just the Israelites. Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. KJV And the Christians’ "Sabbath rest" is Jesus Christ.
Christ also said to observe the commandments. Matt 19:16-17 16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. KJV — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – x-no-archive: yes copyright 2004 John Weatherly all rights reserved (keep it in the group) Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? Yes. The "Sabbath" in the Old Testament was a very special event signifying a very special relationship between God and the Israelis. ex 31: 16-17 14 " `Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people. 15 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death. 16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the generations to come as a lasting covenant. "Who is to observe Sabbath?" The Israelites (the Jews) are to observe Sabbath… 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested.’ " "WHO is to observe Sabbath? 17 It will be a sign between me and the Israelites forever, for in six What is really the Sabbath ? The Sabbath has been– and is– the "Seventh Day after the 1st Day". On the Jewish/Christian calendar, the Sabbath is Saturday. And the Christians’ "Sabbath rest" is Jesus Christ. jw God bless! j w
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WHY NOT ASK GOD ABOUT THE SABBATH
… It’s easy to put verses together which is out of context. Answer this: Is that saturday (7th day of the week), is the same 7th day of the week on that day when God rested ? Are you so sure that the days stays the same in sequence order up to now ?
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WHY NOT ASK GOD ABOUT THE SABBATH … It’s easy to put verses together which is out of context. Answer this: Is that saturday (7th day of the week), is the same 7th day of the week on that day when God rested ? Are you so sure that the days stays the same in sequence order up to now ?
read Isaiah 58:12-14
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Can you give me specific levels or examples on what is that "rest from his labors" ? Don’t cook ? Don’t carry heavy things ? (How heavy?) What are those labors ? Is it anything that you get tired off ? Please explain.
Because the sabbath was made for man, it was not to be a burden, therefore, you are to rest from your normal every day work. And don’t do things that are not necessary for that day, like mowing the lawn, going to your place of employment, painting the house, shopping, fixing the car etc. It is a day for you to take a break and let your body rest from working on all of your earthly duties, to replenish your body, so that you can have the strength to go on. You have to eat, but make something easy and simple or go out to eat. Enjoy the day and take your mind and body off of the things of this world that cause worry, concern, efforts and stress and then don’t forget to thank God for giving you this wonderful day of rest. Isa 58:13-14 13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words: 14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. KJV — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com
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What is actually the Sabbath rest?
Staying home on Sundays and saving 10%.
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Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ?
The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week, Saturday, that God hallowed, and determined that it was SO important that He made it one of the ten commandments set in stone. It is the day that man is to rest from his labors. There is NO difference in the OT and the NT, for as I said, these commandments were set in stone, meaning that they are valid until the end of time on the earth. Ex 20:8-11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. KJV Rev 14:12 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. KJV — Dore www.dorewilliamson.com
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Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ? The Sabbath is the seventh day of the week, Saturday, that God hallowed, and determined that it was SO important that He made it one of the ten commandments set in stone. It is the day that man is to rest from his labors. There is NO difference in the OT and the NT, for as I said, these commandments were set in stone, meaning that they are valid until the end of time on the earth.
Can you give me specific levels or examples on what is that "rest from his labors" ? Don’t cook ? Don’t carry heavy things ? (How heavy?) What are those labors ? Is it anything that you get tired off ? Please explain.
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Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ?
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Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ?
It shouldn’t be. Jesus supposedly said he didn’t come to abolish the law. What is really the Sabbath ?
Saturday?
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read this http://www.tagnet.org/llt/sabbath_reasons.shtml
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all people love cupcakes, "Streamer" Lots of people give different views on Sabbath. Is the Sabbath in the OT different in NT ? What is really the Sabbath ?
The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week, which God ordained for rest. One isn’t bound to a legal following of it in the NT, but one can if one wishes. Colossians 2:16-17 16) Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: 17) Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. — Pastor Dave Raymond "I have more understanding than all my teachers: for thy testimonies are my meditation." – Psalm 119:99 / o{}xxxxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" – Ephesians 6:17
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WHY NOT ASK GOD ABOUT THE SABBATH Q. Tell me, Lord, Do you have a special day of rest for Your followers? A. "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day." Rev. 1:10 Q. But which day is the Lord’s Day? Which day are You Lord of? A. "The Son of man is Lord even of the Sabbath day." Matt. 12:8 Q. There are seven days in the week. Which day is the Sabbath day? A. "The seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord thy God." (Fourth Commandment) Ex. 20:8 Q. Which day, according to our reckoning, is the seventh day, Saturday or Sunday? A. "And when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene and Mary, the mother of James,…very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun…And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man…And he saith unto them, be not affrighted; Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified; he is risen." Mark 16:1-6. (Note: everybody knows that Sunday was the resurrection day. The Sabbath was past when it dawned. Thus it is evident that the Sabbath is Saturday, the day before Sunday.) Q. But, Lord, didn’t you abolish the law which contains the Sabbath commandment? A. "Think not that I am come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill." Matt. 5:17 Q. Well, at least, didn’t you change one of the commandments so that today your followers may keep another day than the seventh day? A. "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." Matt. 5:18 Q. But, Lord, isn’t Saturday a Jewish day? Isn’t the seventh day the Sabbath of the Jews? A. "The Sabbath was made for man." Mark 2:27 (The Sabbath was made and given to man 1500 years before the existence of a Jew. See Gen. 2:1-3) Q. Someone told me that after Your crucifixion, Lord, your followers no longer kept the seventh-day Sabbath according to the commandment. Is this true? A. "And that day was the Preparation day and the Sabbath drew on. And the women also, which came with Him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the Sepulchre, and how His body was laid. And they returned and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the Sabbath day according to the commandment." Luke 23:54-56 Q. But didn’t the apostle Paul always meet with the early Christians on Sunday in honor of the resurrection? What was his manner in regard to a day of worship? A. "And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three Sabbath days reasoned with them out of the Scriptures." Acts 17:2 Q. Did he meet with the Gentile converts on the Sabbath, too? Perhaps he met with the Jews on the Sabbath and the Greeks on Sunday. What about that? A. "And he reasoned in the synagogue every Sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks." Acts 18:4 Q. What did Paul teach in regard to Sabbath keeping? A. "There therefore remaineth a keeping of the Sabbath (margin) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works as God did from His." Heb. 4:9,10 Q. But, which day did Paul mean when he spoke of resting as God did? A. "For He spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, ‘And God did rest the seventh day from all His works’" Heb. 4:4 Q. Is this, then, your instruction in regard to Sabbath keeping? A. "For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God." Acts 20:27 (In the New Testament there are no less than 59 references to the Sabbath. The book of Acts records 84 Sabbaths on which the Apostle Paul and his associates held religious services. Yet there is not one word in the entire Bible authorizing Sunday keeping.) Q. Then why is it so many people keep Sunday instead of Saturday? If the Bible teaches Sabbath keeping, how and by whom was Sunday keeping introduced into Christianity? A. "And he (the ‘little horn’ power) shall speak great words against the Most High,…and think to change times and laws." Dan. 7:25 Q. The Roman Catholic Church is the little horn of Daniel 7; Do you mean that it should think to change the law of God? A. "Ask now the priests concerning the law." Haggai 2:11 Q. Very well, I will ask Stephen Keenan, a Catholic Priest: Does your church think it has the power to change the law of God? A. "Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her; she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day of the week, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority." Doctrinal Catechism, page 174 Q. When was this change made? A. "We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church in the Council of Laodicea (364 A.D.) transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday." The Converts’ Catechism, Peter Geirmann, page 50. (This catechism received the pope’s blessing on Jan. 25, 1910.) Q. Do Protestant ministers agree with this? A. Congregationalist : "It is quite clear that however rigidly or devotedly we may spend Sunday, we are not keeping the Sabbath." Dr. R.W. Dale, The Ten Commandments, page 106. Methodist : "Sabbath in the Hebrew language signifies rest and is the seventh day of the week,…and it must be confessed that there is no law in the New Testament concerning the first day." Buck’s Theological Dictionary. Baptist : "There was and is a commandment to keep holy the Sabbath day, but that Sabbath day was not Sunday. It will be said, however, and with some show of triumph, that the Sabbath was transferred from the seventh to the first day of the week…Where can the record of such a transfer be found? Not in the New Testament – absolutely not…Of course, I quite well know that Sunday did not come into use in early Christian history…But what a pity that it comes branded with the mark of paganism, and christened with the name of the sun god, when adopted and sanctioned by the Papal apostasy, and bequeathed as a sacred legacy to Protestantism." – Dr. E.T Hiscox, author of the Baptist Manual. Q. What difference does it make which day I keep? A day is a day isn’t it? A. "Know ye not that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? Romans 6:16 Q. Then what shall I do, obey the Sabbath of God’s commandment or keep the Sunday of man? A. "We ought to obey God rather than men." Acts 5:29 Q. Well, Lord, what do You think of Sunday keeping? A. "Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition…But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Matthew 15:6,9 Q. But surely the millions of people who keep Sunday can’t be wrong, can they? A. "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matt. 7:13,14 (Only a few obeyed God in the days of Noah, in the days of Lot, in the days of Christ. The majority were lost.) Q. But Dr. So-and-so is a very wise man: Why doesn’t he and all the great preachers keep the Sabbath? A. "For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called; but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty." 1 Cor. 1:26,27. (Note: The great religious teachers in Christ’s day rejected the truth also. His followers were of the common people.) Q. But I have accepted Jesus; I know He is my Saviour; I know He has accepted me and I have been keeping Sunday. Surely I would not be lost if I did not keep the Sabbath now, would I? A. "A time of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent." Acts 17:30 Q. I know you, Lord. You wouldn’t condemn me for breaking the Sabbath, would you? A. "He that saith, I know Him, and keepeth not His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." 1 John 2:4 Q. But isn’t it sufficient that I love the Lord and live by the law of love? A. "If ye love Me, keep My commandments." John 14:15 Q. Does that mean all ten of them? A. "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10 Q. Well, I think that if we try to follow Jesus, that is all that is necessary. Isn’t that right, Jesus? A. "He that saith he abideth in Him, ought himself also so to walk even as He walked." 1 John 2:6 Q. How did you walk, Lord, what was your custom? A. "And He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up; and, as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day and stood up for to read." Luke 4:16 Q. But, Lord, that was over 1900 years ago. Wouldn’t you keep some other day than Saturday if you should come to earth today? A. "I am the Lord, I change not." Mal. 3:6 "Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and today, and for ever." Heb. 13:8 Q. Does my salvation depend upon my obedience to this Sabbath injunction? A. "And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him." Heb. 5:9 Q. Do you think it would be absolutely necessary to keep the commandments to receive eternal life? A. "If thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments." Matt. 19:17 Q. But I still can’t see why You insist on the seventh day, Lord. Isn’t Sunday as good as Saturday? A. "God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it." Gen. 2:3 "He hath blessed and I cannot reverse it." Num. 23:20. "For Thou blessest, O Lord, and it shall be blessed for ever." 1 Chron. 17:27 Q. Well, it seems to me that if I keep one day in seven, regardless of which one, that ought to be good enough. A. "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man; but the end thereof are the ways of death." Prov. 16:25 "Spiritual … read more »
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