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A message to the anti-Catholic trolls who consider themselves Christian

Question:

Many wicked things go on behind closed doors in the secret chambers of Catholicism and the Vatican.

So you claim, but you have lied so much why should we beleive you? The Pope sits in a chair with an inverted cross

That cross is symbolic of Peter, who was crucified upside down. The Pope is the sucessor of Peter. If you were have as intelligent as you claim you would have know that. Instead you choose to beleive someone else’s LIES to justfy your lie mongering. IF they were to observe my daily life and relationship with the Lord,

Based on your lie mongering here, the impression is that you have NO relationship with the Lord. I, on the other hand, do not; I merely stick to Scripture.

Scripture preserved and cannonized by the CATHOLIC CHURCH, minus what Luther and Calvin let you keep.

Response:

That’s our Pelvis; always nothing to say (always snips post because he can’t answer the Scriptures, too). Jesus said there would be mockers right up to the end. When you stand face to face with him, I want to see you mock and scoff then, hot snot.  :o) GS

Hot snot?  Dude, how old ARE you?  That probably will not rank up there with the all time most convincing arguments for your brand of discredited Christianity.

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"witch" is NOT capitalized before the face of God, nor will it be

capitalized in Hell. I refuse to honor such wickedness in any way, shape or form.

    Then why did you honor hell and capitalize it, gary? BTW, mental illness, too, is "hereditary". Meanwhile, you will "inherit" hell for your future residence. Count on it.

    So did you inherit your mental illness from you mother or father? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says. Really? Might I respectfully remind you of Martha and Mary Magdalene. Mere exceptions, NOT the RULE. Might I remind you of Eve, who, unlike Adam, WAS deceived and did rebel against God. Spiritually gullible and prideful women like you are quite plentiful; a dime a dozen. Just look at all the goofy women who waste so much time, money and attention to vain winged creatures ("angels"), in spite of the FACT that none of them have seen them, AND the fact that nowhere in Scripture does it say they have wings. There are FAR too many examples of how spiritually dim women are and have habitually been, to list them all here; indeed, to do so would be to write a BOOK!

    You don’t get laid much, do you? <snip ver batim BS out of sheer boredom — ?Saint Elvis? T

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Hot snot?  Dude, how old ARE you?  That probably will not rank up there with the all time most convincing arguments for your brand of discredited Christianity.

    gary’s so old he’s circling the drain.  I think he’s studying for his final exam to get into Heaven. — ?Saint Elvis? T

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You deride their beliefs. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. Please re-think this course. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt     That’s our Gary.  Always something to say.  Too bad it’s nothing positive – ever. — -Saint Elvis That’s our Pelvis; always nothing to say (always snips post because he can’t answer the Scriptures, too). Jesus said there would be mockers right up to the end. When you stand face to face with him, I want to see you mock and scoff then, hot snot.  :o) You have to wonder if Gary reads his own posts.  He chastises Evil Elvis for being a "mocker", yet mocks him with terms such as "Pelvis" & "hot snot". Hmmmmm…….

There’s a difference between mocking a mocker and mocking the Scriptures – figure it out. GS

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Thank you Tony; A Witch does some divination and spellcraft hence the condemnation, though much of it is prayer.

Well, the Rev. has me in hell already.  Since I’m already damned I might as well like everyone I can and not hate the people Rev. thinks I ought to hate. :) -Tony PS: The beauty of being damned is that the Rev. no longer has any power over me :) )) — For fairly troll free Catholic discussion, send e-mail to: Join on the web at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancatholic/

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    You go girl!

The Roman Catholic Church’s position and condemnation of Witchcraft is quite clear and was re-iterated as recently as this year. The Church, within it’s history, has acted rather vigorously upon that condemnation as well. You call it the Inquisition, we call it "The Burning Times(in which Protestants also did quite a part attacking us.) Your report of Witchcraft being practiced with approval in the Church is a fiction.

    Personally, I have no problem with Witches because one of my best friends is a Witch. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You deride their beliefs. I answer their hypocrisy, challenge their delusions and expose their lies. Most respectfully, they could throw the same gauntlet at your feet. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God. Because they disagree with your personal interpretation of scripture? My goodness, I had no idea that like Rome, you claim infallibility.

    Oh yeah, Pope Gary is the only one to understand Scriptures. Revelations is not prophetical literature, most likely it refers to a Roman slave insurrection.

    Interesting.  Please explain further. Why would I even think of doing so; I love Jesus’ love of people and his wisdom.

    That’s what Christianity all boils down to. <snipped for brevity — -?Saint Elvis? T

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You have to wonder if Gary reads his own posts.  He chastises Evil Elvis for being a "mocker", yet mocks him with terms such as "Pelvis" & "hot snot". Hmmmmm…….

    Hmmmmm…….indeed.  :) — -?Saint Elvis? T

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That’s our Pelvis; always nothing to say (always snips post because he can’t answer the Scriptures, too). Jesus said there would be mockers right up to the end. When you stand face to face with him, I want to see you mock and scoff then, hot snot.  :o)

    When I stand face to face with him I’ll give him a high five, pop open a bud and we’ll toast a few marshmallows over the flame in which you will be eternally roasting. :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) :o ) — -?Saint Elvis? T

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You know nothing of JESUS, God’s only Christ, which is why all you can refer to is "christ", an office, which will also be held by the anti-christ; you are obviously primed and ready for him. If you knew anything about JESUS (whom will judge you), you would know that there are TWO sides to what he said, and said he would bring: Matthew 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Have you ever heard of Scriptures like this, or do you choke on them? NO,I do not choke upon them but they have to be read in context.

The clear context of virtually ALL Scriptures concerning witches as far as God is concerned is, HE DOESN’T LIKE ‘EM! Are you AFRAID of them? No

You WILL be. Do you HATE them? No

No? Then you won’t mind reading this: Deuteronomy 18:10  There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11  Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. 12  For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee.  The anti-christ WILL bring "peace" for a time, then come things you cannot even conceive of (like judgment before JESUS, Etc.). It’s interesting that you would call them "brethren"; do they consider YOU a "brethren", too, "witch"? No actually they do not. Witch is capitalized, by the way, just as Christian is.

"witch" is NOT capitalized before the face of God, nor will it be capitalized in Hell. I refuse to honor such wickedness in any way, shape or form. . Either way, ya’ll BELONG together and I bet you get along fabulously, don’t you?!? In fact, it seems I have read a number of reports of witchcraft in the RCC, even as high as in the Vatican. No surprise. The Roman Catholic Church’s position and condemnation of Witchcraft is quite clear and was re-iterated as recently as this year. The Churh, within it’s history, has acted rather vigorously upon that condemnation as well. You call it the Inquisition, we call it "The Burning Times(in which Protestants also did quite a part attacking us.) Your report of Witchcraft being practiced with approval in the Church is a fiction.

Many wicked things go on behind closed doors in the secret chambers of Catholicism and the Vatican. The Pope sits in a chair with an inverted cross and not to long ago received a mark on his forehead. Catholicism and witchcraft work well together, as neither REALLY cares less what Scripture says. I bet, if I looked, I could even find Catholic witches. We know the church welcomes and embraces voodoo, as well as just about any other abomination it can find, in the interest of "spreading christianity". You deride their beliefs. I answer their hypocrisy, challenge their delusions and expose their lies. Most respectfully, they could throw the same gauntlet at your feet.

IF they were to observe my daily life and relationship with the Lord, they could not. Regardless, it is they who are the ones constantly whining; constantly on the defensive, not *I*. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God. Because they disagree with your personal interpretation of scripture? My goodness, I had no idea that like Rome, you claim infallability.

Nope. Quite the contrary, I am quite mortal; nothing at all really. Just highly anointed dirt to be honest. You see, it takes an inordinate amount of arrogant pride for someone to step forward and declare infallibility as the RCC has. I, on the other hand, do not; I merely stick to Scripture. Meanwhile, you have not negated the FACT that they ARE fulfilling prophesy about the end time delusion. Let’s all watch as the end approaches ever closer, and they fulfill more prophesy, shall we? THEY fulfill prophesies about the end time delusion and deception. THEY have pursued vain, lying men into a pretense fabricated with lies into the very pits of HELL. It is THEY who have invalidated their "pursuit of the Divine" by blindly accepting Satan and thinking HIM divine. Their Baptismal vows begin with "Do you renounce Satan?"

Scripture makes it clear, time and time again, that there WILL be two-faced hypocrites who "appear" godly on the outside, paying homage with their lips, but their hearts are far from Him. It also makes clear that people like you will buy the lies of people like them; birds of a feather…. The fact of the matter is, just as with virtually everything else Scripture related, MOST Catholics couldn’t know or care less about what it SAYS; they don’t have the first clue as to WHO and WHAT Satan is (therefore, as with so many other points, their beliefs are made up of assumptions). Please re-think this course. I (re)think about inspired Scripture EVERY DAY, and it warns YOU and THEM of the course you are on, and where it will certainly lead. (as you and they continue to fulfill prophesy about the end times to this very day, so shall you continue to fulfill prophesy right up to (and past) the Judgment day. Please rethink YOUR course and ultimate DESTINY. Revalations is not prophetical literature, most likely it referrs to a Roman slave insurrection.

Beyond the fact that I never mentioned The Revelation (singular, not plural), your "most likely" shows that you are merely assuming again. Revelation IS indeed a book of future prophesy; THE most profound prophesy mankind has ever heard: Revelation 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. If Scripture didn’t burn your hands so, you could actually look up some of this stuff instead of assuming about it. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, Of course you, like your Catholic BRETHREN, are quick to try your lame attempts to turn valid warnings into your out of context "hate" (see some of my previous posts for the Scriptures where, according to your own twisted and cowardly standards, JESUS "preached HATE"). I dislike cowards and self-exalting liars (witches") Witch is capitalized, and no coward could ever be a Witch given the prejudice against us.

"witch" is NOT capitalized in Scripture; so be it (or do you use the uncertain satanic term "so mote it be"?). Well, "brave" witch, when YOU stand before God almighty and the Lord Jesus, and YOUR books of thoughts, words and deeds are opened, and you are ultimately sent to Hell, BE BRAVE! (after all, it’s only an eternity!) like you, too! So? Tough! If you can’t take some straight between the eyes truth, DON’T CLICK ON IT! *duhhh* and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. You ain’t seen nuttin’ till you stand face to face with JESUS, and he opens YOUR books of words and deeds and HIS Book of Life – then you will find out that GOD really DOES hate witchcraft, JUST as he said he did. Memorize this – you WILL hear it again: " I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matthew 7:23). You might consider this:"That which you cast out to others will be returned to you three-fold"(Witches Rede)

You might likewise consider: Job 4:8  Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same. 9  By the blast of God they perish, and by the breath of his nostrils are they consumed. 10  The roaring of the lion, and the voice of the fierce lion, and the teeth of the young lions, are broken. 11  The old lion perisheth for lack of prey, and the stout lion’s whelps are scattered abroad. Meanwhile, *I* consider that you have not and can not address and answer the points I made. Brightest Blessings; Luv-n’-lite to you, too, dimwit! Boy! You ARE ripe for the New World Order / New Age Movement / Anti-christ, aren’t ya? *duhhh* Hardly. I am a traditional Witch, a hereditary. I am about as far from New Age Witchcraft as you can be, though I honour their search for the Divine. I do study Wicca as my hereditary background is herbal.

That’s okay, you’ll fall in line with the rest of them when the time comes. It’s still early as end times go. BTW, mental illness, too, is "hereditary". Meanwhile, you will "inherit" hell for your future residence. Count on it. Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says. Really? Might I respectfully remind you of Martha and Mary Magdalene.

Mere exceptions, NOT the RULE. Might I remind you of Eve, who, unlike Adam, WAS deceived and did rebel against God. Spiritually gullible and prideful women like you are quite plentiful; a dime a dozen. Just look at all the goofy women who waste so much time, money and attention to vain winged creatures … read more »

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You deride their beliefs. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. Please re-think this course. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt     That’s our Gary.  Always something to say.  Too bad it’s nothing positive – ever. — -Saint Elvis

That’s our Pelvis; always nothing to say (always snips post because he can’t answer the Scriptures, too). Jesus said there would be mockers right up to the end. When you stand face to face with him, I want to see you mock and scoff then, hot snot.  :o) GS

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<Snippage The Roman Catholic Church’s position and condemnation of Witchcraft is quite clear and was re-iterated as recently as this year. The Churh, Do you have a link to appropriate *official* documents?  I’d like to read them myself.

It was a statement from a spokesperson, I saw it around January. within it’s history, has acted rather vigorously upon that condemnation as well. You call it the Inquisition, we call it "The Burning Times(in which Protestants also did quite a part attacking us.) Your report of Witchcraft being practiced with approval in the Church is a fiction. I think this depends on what you mean by "Witchcraft" (large "W").  I’m woefully ignorant as to what "Witchcraft" is.  I have met a few Pagans, and their religion seems to be innocuous.  They seem to follow Jesus’ teachings without knowing Jesus which is ok.

We do. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I think you might be talking about the realm of the "occult" which the Church has always fought.  This includes divination, tarot and other such practices up to and including full fledged Satan worship which is anathema to the Church. If you aren’t, please enlighten me. <Snip THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God. Because they disagree with your personal interpretation of scripture? My goodness, I had no idea that like Rome, you claim infallability. Of course he does.  He has the Spirit.  Jesus talks directly to him.  Don’t you know that jesus is the Rev’s *personal* savior? All of these Sola Scriptura types are their own Pope. THEY fulfill prophesies about the end time delusion and deception. THEY have pursued vain, lying men into a pretense fabricated with lies into the very pits of HELL. It is THEY who have invalidated their "pursuit of the Divine" by blindly accepting Satan and thinking HIM divine. Their Baptismal vows begin with "Do you renounce Satan?" Don’t confuse the Rev. with facts. :) <Snip dislike anyone preaching hatred, Of course you, like your Catholic BRETHREN, are quick to try your lame attempts to turn valid warnings into your out of context "hate" (see some of my previous posts for the Scriptures where, according to your own twisted and cowardly standards, JESUS "preached HATE"). I dislike cowards and self-exalting liars (witches") Witch is capitalized, and no coward could ever be a Witch given the prejudice against us. "BRETHEREN".  Heh.  Fundamentalism makes strange bedfellows doesn’t it. :) <Snip You ain’t seen nuttin’ till you stand face to face with JESUS, and he opens YOUR books of words and deeds and HIS Book of Life – then you will find out that GOD really DOES hate witchcraft, JUST as he said he did. Memorize this – you WILL hear it again: " I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matthew 7:23). You might consider this:"That which you cast out to others will be returned to you three-fold"(Witches Rede) I think the Rev’s going to get a big surprise when he talks with Jesus. Jesus will probably tell him: "You talked a good talk, but you didn’t walk the walk.  Cailleen didn’t know me, but she walked the walk." <Snip Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says. Really? Might I respectfully remind you of Martha and Mary Magdalene. He’s a mysogynist too.  Isn’t that cool! That’s a nice self-exalting "name" you got there. Why is it that ALL witches like yourself ALWAYS have a self-exalting, self-applied moniker like that? Why is that? Because upon my beloved Aunt’s death I inheirited the title. It is a responsibility, not a brag. She was an herbalist Witch and healer. The ‘aSiobhan honours Lady Siobhan, one of my mentors in the past, who encouraged me to take up my aunt’s calling. It’s never anything plain or ordinary; always a prideful contrivance. WHY are you so insecure that you have to embrace gimmicky names and practices? After all, if you remove all the fancy titles, mystical allure and evil devices, WHAT ARE YOU? A human being who honours the Creator and acts in stewardship of creation. :) You have the Rev. ranting at you and you seem like a reasonable and peaceful person.  That makes you ok in my book. -Tony

Thank you Tony; A Witch does some divination and spellcraft hence the condemnation, though much of it is prayer. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — For fairly troll free Catholic discussion, send e-mail to: Join on the web at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancatholic/

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You deride their beliefs. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. Please re-think this course. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt     That’s our Gary.  Always something to say.  Too bad it’s nothing positive – ever. — -Saint Elvis That’s our Pelvis; always nothing to say (always snips post because he can’t answer the Scriptures, too). Jesus said there would be mockers right up to the end. When you stand face to face with him, I want to see you mock and scoff then, hot snot.  :o)

You have to wonder if Gary reads his own posts.  He chastises Evil Elvis for being a "mocker", yet mocks him with terms such as "Pelvis" & "hot snot". Hmmmmm…….

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<Snippage The Roman Catholic Church’s position and condemnation of Witchcraft is quite clear and was re-iterated as recently as this year. The Churh,

Do you have a link to appropriate *official* documents?  I’d like to read them myself. within it’s history, has acted rather vigorously upon that condemnation as well. You call it the Inquisition, we call it "The Burning Times(in which Protestants also did quite a part attacking us.) Your report of Witchcraft being practiced with approval in the Church is a fiction.

I think this depends on what you mean by "Witchcraft" (large "W").  I’m woefully ignorant as to what "Witchcraft" is.  I have met a few Pagans, and their religion seems to be innocuous.  They seem to follow Jesus’ teachings without knowing Jesus which is ok. I think you might be talking about the realm of the "occult" which the Church has always fought.  This includes divination, tarot and other such practices up to and including full fledged Satan worship which is anathema to the Church. If you aren’t, please enlighten me. <Snip THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God. Because they disagree with your personal interpretation of scripture? My goodness, I had no idea that like Rome, you claim infallability.

Of course he does.  He has the Spirit.  Jesus talks directly to him.  Don’t you know that jesus is the Rev’s *personal* savior? All of these Sola Scriptura types are their own Pope. THEY fulfill prophesies about the end time delusion and deception. THEY have pursued vain, lying men into a pretense fabricated with lies into the very pits of HELL. It is THEY who have invalidated their "pursuit of the Divine" by blindly accepting Satan and thinking HIM divine. Their Baptismal vows begin with "Do you renounce Satan?"

Don’t confuse the Rev. with facts. :) <Snip dislike anyone preaching hatred, Of course you, like your Catholic BRETHREN, are quick to try your lame attempts to turn valid warnings into your out of context "hate" (see some of my previous posts for the Scriptures where, according to your own twisted and cowardly standards, JESUS "preached HATE"). I dislike cowards and self-exalting liars (witches") Witch is capitalized, and no coward could ever be a Witch given the prejudice against us.

"BRETHEREN".  Heh.  Fundamentalism makes strange bedfellows doesn’t it. :) <Snip You ain’t seen nuttin’ till you stand face to face with JESUS, and he opens YOUR books of words and deeds and HIS Book of Life – then you will find out that GOD really DOES hate witchcraft, JUST as he said he did. Memorize this – you WILL hear it again: " I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matthew 7:23). You might consider this:"That which you cast out to others will be returned to you three-fold"(Witches Rede)

I think the Rev’s going to get a big surprise when he talks with Jesus.   Jesus will probably tell him: "You talked a good talk, but you didn’t walk the walk.  Cailleen didn’t know me, but she walked the walk." <Snip Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says. Really? Might I respectfully remind you of Martha and Mary Magdalene.

He’s a mysogynist too.  Isn’t that cool! That’s a nice self-exalting "name" you got there. Why is it that ALL witches like yourself ALWAYS have a self-exalting, self-applied moniker like that? Why is that? Because upon my beloved Aunt’s death I inheirited the title. It is a responsibility, not a brag. She was an herbalist Witch and healer. The ‘aSiobhan honours Lady Siobhan, one of my mentors in the past, who encouraged me to take up my aunt’s calling. It’s never anything plain or ordinary; always a prideful contrivance. WHY are you so insecure that you have to embrace gimmicky names and practices? After all, if you remove all the fancy titles, mystical allure and evil devices, WHAT ARE YOU? A human being who honours the Creator and acts in stewardship of creation.

:) You have the Rev. ranting at you and you seem like a reasonable and peaceful person.  That makes you ok in my book. -Tony — For fairly troll free Catholic discussion, send e-mail to: Join on the web at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancatholic/

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Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You deride their beliefs. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. Please re-think this course. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt

    That’s our Gary.  Always something to say.  Too bad it’s nothing positive – ever. — -Saint Elvis

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at his computer, put his last 2 brain cells together and burped the following: "*duhhh*"

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You know nothing of JESUS, God’s only Christ, which is why all you can refer to is "christ", an office, which will also be held by the anti-christ; you are obviously primed and ready for him. If you knew anything about JESUS (whom will judge you), you would know that there are TWO sides to what he said, and said he would bring: Matthew 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Have you ever heard of Scriptures like this, or do you choke on them?

NO,I do not choke upon them but they have to be read in context. Are you AFRAID of them?

No Do you HATE them?

No  The anti-christ WILL bring "peace" for a time, then come things you cannot even conceive of (like judgment before JESUS, Etc.). It’s interesting that you would call them "brethren"; do they consider YOU a "brethren", too, "witch"?

No actually they do not. Witch is capitalized, by the way, just as Christian is. . Either way, ya’ll BELONG together and I bet you get along fabulously, don’t you?!? In fact, it seems I have read a number of reports of witchcraft in the RCC, even as high as in the Vatican. No surprise.

The Roman Catholic Church’s position and condemnation of Witchcraft is quite clear and was re-iterated as recently as this year. The Churh, within it’s history, has acted rather vigorously upon that condemnation as well. You call it the Inquisition, we call it "The Burning Times(in which Protestants also did quite a part attacking us.) Your report of Witchcraft being practiced with approval in the Church is a fiction. You deride their beliefs. I answer their hypocrisy, challenge their delusions and expose their lies.

Most respectfully, they could throw the same gauntlet at your feet. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God.

Because they disagree with your personal interpretation of scripture? My goodness, I had no idea that like Rome, you claim infallability. THEY fulfill prophesies about the end time delusion and deception. THEY have pursued vain, lying men into a pretense fabricated with lies into the very pits of HELL. It is THEY who have invalidated their "pursuit of the Divine" by blindly accepting Satan and thinking HIM divine.

Their Baptismal vows begin with "Do you renounce Satan?" Please re-think this course. I (re)think about inspired Scripture EVERY DAY, and it warns YOU and THEM of the course you are on, and where it will certainly lead. (as you and they continue to fulfill prophesy about the end times to this very day, so shall you continue to fulfill prophesy right up to (and past) the Judgment day. Please rethink YOUR course and ultimate DESTINY.

Revalations is not prophetical literature, most likely it referrs to a Roman slave insurrection. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, Of course you, like your Catholic BRETHREN, are quick to try your lame attempts to turn valid warnings into your out of context "hate" (see some of my previous posts for the Scriptures where, according to your own twisted and cowardly standards, JESUS "preached HATE"). I dislike cowards and self-exalting liars (witches")

Witch is capitalized, and no coward could ever be a Witch given the prejudice against us. like you, too! So? Tough! If you can’t take some straight between the eyes truth, DON’T CLICK ON IT! *duhhh* and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. You ain’t seen nuttin’ till you stand face to face with JESUS, and he opens YOUR books of words and deeds and HIS Book of Life – then you will find out that GOD really DOES hate witchcraft, JUST as he said he did. Memorize this – you WILL hear it again: " I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matthew 7:23).

You might consider this:"That which you cast out to others will be returned to you three-fold"(Witches Rede) Brightest Blessings; Luv-n’-lite to you, too, dimwit! Boy! You ARE ripe for the New World Order / New Age Movement / Anti-christ, aren’t ya? *duhhh*

Hardly. I am a traditional Witch, a hereditary. I am about as far from New Age Witchcraft as you can be, though I honour their search for the Divine. I do study Wicca as my hereditary background is herbal. Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says.

Really? Might I respectfully remind you of Martha and Mary Magdalene. That’s a nice self-exalting "name" you got there. Why is it that ALL witches like yourself ALWAYS have a self-exalting, self-applied moniker like that? Why is that?

Because upon my beloved Aunt’s death I inheirited the title. It is a responsibility, not a brag. She was an herbalist Witch and healer. The ‘aSiobhan honours Lady Siobhan, one of my mentors in the past, who encouraged me to take up my aunt’s calling. It’s never anything plain or ordinary; always a prideful contrivance. WHY are you so insecure that you have to embrace gimmicky names and practices? After all, if you remove all the fancy titles, mystical allure and evil devices, WHAT ARE YOU?

A human being who honours the Creator and acts in stewardship of creation. (If you just imagine yourself without any traces of it, you will see that I am right) NOTHING, that’s what! You were too busy trying to be someone and something that you are not to ever find out just WHO and WHAT you are. When you stand before JESUS, all the spells and incantations you can muster won’t help you one whit, but will only damn you further.

A Witch may not use spellcraft except to help others or protest herself. When you try to answer HIM for that, HE will face YOU with pure Scripture (as he always did on Earth); you will NOT answer Scripture in His mouth (He calls it a "two-edged sword", and it’ll slice you to shreds!). Then all your "witchly wisdom"

We call it "knowledge of the Craft" will fall at your feet as dung as you stand there literally naked

Not a problem, some of spellcraft is done nude; and utterly shamed. (Dare ya to fling a "spell" at Him on that day!)

Why would I even think of doing so; I love Jesus’ love of people and his wisdom. Witchcraft is but another way insecure people use to exalt themselves when they are afraid of God and their own puny existences.

It is my conection with my Creator and my spirituality, just as Protestant Christianity is yours. Ironically, if you humbled yourself and submitted TO God, HE could and would exalt you beyond your wildest dreams, and in a way that will not lead to eternal damnation, too. Knowing and pleasing God brings GREAT security, peace of mind and well-being. It’s your choice – it’s Jesus’ judgment day. In the meantime, especially YOU, have a VERY good and SATISFYING life! YOU should indulge in as many lusts and desires as you possibly can in this life;

I am circumpect as a rule and quite restrained. enough to last you an ETERNITY of regret and suffering ("weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth" as the Lord puts it).

If I were to believe in damnation that would apply, I do not. Luv-n’-lite  to ya! :o )

Thank you Gary, that is kind Gary Schooley

The Goddess’ blessings to you; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt  Keep pure your highest ideal; strive ever towards it, let naught stop you or turn you aside; "The Charge of the Goddess" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Romans 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Response:

- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For those of you trolls who purport to follow Jesus, here are some quotes from Him. "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." – Jesus (Matthew 10:14) "And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Mark 6:11) "If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Luke 9:5) "Shake the dust off as you unsubscribe" – Tony -Tony Let’s put that IN context and see what it really says, shall we?: Matthew 10:11  And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12  And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13  And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15  Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Beyond the obvious that there is NO mention of the internet, computers or news groups there at all, notice the whole context of it and how it has NOTHING to do with your pitiful "argument". Posting on usenet is NOT entering into a town (on foot no less) or house, IN the context of LIVING there. No one asked "who is worthy" (because self-righteous Catholics will ALL boast that they are) (in spite of the FACT that you can see by looking that they are FAR from it!). A Catholic "house" is not worthy; A Christian’s peace cannot rest upon it and must return. Catholics will NOT receive a Christian nor hear their words, even though it is NOT in the setting and context of this Scripture (even if it were, they wouldn’t!). I did NOT get any dust on me from posting on usenet, but, if I did, I would have already shaken it off against you. But, the rest of it, in or out of context, DOES apply to Catholics: "…It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment…". Yours is yet another pitiful, OUT OF CONTEXT, lame Catholic argument. Judgment day will be IN CONTEXT and ALL the Scriptures will be opened against you on that day (and you won’t get to take little pieces out of context and twist them to suite your fear, either). Gary Schooley Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace?

You know nothing of JESUS, God’s only Christ, which is why all you can refer to is "christ", an office, which will also be held by the anti-christ; you are obviously primed and ready for him. If you knew anything about JESUS (whom will judge you), you would know that there are TWO sides to what he said, and said he would bring: Matthew 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36  And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household. 37  He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38  And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. Have you ever heard of Scriptures like this, or do you choke on them? Are you AFRAID of them? Do you HATE them? The anti-christ WILL bring "peace" for a time, then come things you cannot even conceive of (like judgment before JESUS, Etc.). It’s interesting that you would call them "brethren"; do they consider YOU a "brethren", too, "witch"? I bet they DO. Either way, ya’ll BELONG together and I bet you get along fabulously, don’t you?!? In fact, it seems I have read a number of reports of witchcraft in the RCC, even as high as in the Vatican. No surprise. No surprise at all. You deride their beliefs.

I answer their hypocrisy, challenge their delusions and expose their lies. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine.

THEY validate ALL the Scriptures about idolatry, blasphemy and wickedness before God. THEY fulfill prophesies about the end time delusion and deception. THEY have pursued vain, lying men into a pretense fabricated with lies into the very pits of HELL. It is THEY who have invalidated their "pursuit of the Divine" by blindly accepting Satan and thinking HIM divine. Please re-think this course.

I (re)think about inspired Scripture EVERY DAY, and it warns YOU and THEM of the course you are on, and where it will certainly lead. (as you and they continue to fulfill prophesy about the end times to this very day, so shall you continue to fulfill prophesy right up to (and past) the Judgment day. Please rethink YOUR course and ultimate DESTINY. I dislike anyone preaching hatred,

Of course you, like your Catholic BRETHREN, are quick to try your lame attempts to turn valid warnings into your out of context "hate" (see some of my previous posts for the Scriptures where, according to your own twisted and cowardly standards, JESUS "preached HATE"). I dislike cowards and self-exalting liars (witches") like you, too! So? Tough! If you can’t take some straight between the eyes truth, DON’T CLICK ON IT! *duhhh* and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides.

You ain’t seen nuttin’ till you stand face to face with JESUS, and he opens YOUR books of words and deeds and HIS Book of Life – then you will find out that GOD really DOES hate witchcraft, JUST as he said he did. Memorize this – you WILL hear it again: " I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity" (Matthew 7:23). Brightest Blessings;

Luv-n’-lite to you, too, dimwit! Boy! You ARE ripe for the New World Order / New Age Movement / Anti-christ, aren’t ya? *duhhh* Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt

Oh, sorry, I should have made that "Girl!", huh?. *LOL* Yep, women ALWAYS prove to be much more easily spiritually deceived, JUST as Scripture says. That’s a nice self-exalting "name" you got there. Why is it that ALL witches like yourself ALWAYS have a self-exalting, self-applied moniker like that? Why is that? It’s never anything plain or ordinary; always a prideful contrivance. WHY are you so insecure that you have to embrace gimmicky names and practices? After all, if you remove all the fancy titles, mystical allure and evil devices, WHAT ARE YOU? (If you just imagine yourself without any traces of it, you will see that I am right) NOTHING, that’s what! You were too busy trying to be someone and something that you are not to ever find out just WHO and WHAT you are. When you stand before JESUS, all the spells and incantations you can muster won’t help you one whit, but will only damn you further. When you try to answer HIM for that, HE will face YOU with pure Scripture (as he always did on Earth); you will NOT answer Scripture in His mouth (He calls it a "two-edged sword", and it’ll slice you to shreds!). Then all your "witchly wisdom" will fall at your feet as dung as you stand there literally naked and utterly shamed. (Dare ya to fling a "spell" at Him on that day!) Witchcraft is but another way insecure people use to exalt themselves when they are afraid of God and their own puny existences. Ironically, if you humbled yourself and submitted TO God, HE could and would exalt you beyond your wildest dreams, and in a way that will not lead to eternal damnation, too. Knowing and pleasing God brings GREAT security, peace of mind and well-being. It’s your choice – it’s Jesus’ judgment day. In the meantime, especially YOU, have a VERY good and SATISFYING life! YOU should indulge in as many lusts and desires as you possibly can in this life; enough to last you an ETERNITY of regret and suffering ("weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth" as the Lord puts it). Luv-n’-lite  to ya! :o ) Gary Schooley Romans 1:28  And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31  Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32  Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For those of you trolls who purport to follow Jesus, here are some quotes from Him. "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." – Jesus (Matthew 10:14) "And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Mark 6:11) "If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Luke 9:5) "Shake the dust off as you unsubscribe" – Tony -Tony Let’s put that IN context and see what it really says, shall we?: Matthew 10:11  And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12  And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13  And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15  Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Beyond the obvious that there is NO mention of the internet, computers or news groups there at all, notice the whole context of it and how it has NOTHING to do with your pitiful "argument". Posting on usenet is NOT entering into a town (on foot no less) or house, IN the context of LIVING there. No one asked "who is worthy" (because self-righteous Catholics will ALL boast that they are) (in spite of the FACT that you can see by looking that they are FAR from it!). A Catholic "house" is not worthy; A Christian’s peace cannot rest upon it and must return. Catholics will NOT receive a Christian nor hear their words, even though it is NOT in the setting and context of this Scripture (even if it were, they wouldn’t!). I did NOT get any dust on me from posting on usenet, but, if I did, I would have already shaken it off against you. But, the rest of it, in or out of context, DOES apply to Catholics: "…It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment…". Yours is yet another pitiful, OUT OF CONTEXT, lame Catholic argument. Judgment day will be IN CONTEXT and ALL the Scriptures will be opened against you on that day (and you won’t get to take little pieces out of context and twist them to suite your fear, either). Gary Schooley

Gary; In what way does your post extend the peace of Christ to your Catholic brethern, just as Christ brought peace? You deride their beliefs. you invalidate their pursuit of the Divine. Please re-think this course. I dislike anyone preaching hatred, and as a Witch I have experienced hatred from all sides. Brightest Blessings; Caillean `aSiobhan, Lady Carrigaholt

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – For those of you trolls who purport to follow Jesus, here are some quotes from Him. "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." – Jesus (Matthew 10:14) "And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Mark 6:11) "If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Luke 9:5) "Shake the dust off as you unsubscribe" – Tony -Tony

Let’s put that IN context and see what it really says, shall we?: Matthew 10:11  And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12  And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13  And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14  And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15  Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. 16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Beyond the obvious that there is NO mention of the internet, computers or news groups there at all, notice the whole context of it and how it has NOTHING to do with your pitiful "argument". Posting on usenet is NOT entering into a town (on foot no less) or house, IN the context of LIVING there. No one asked "who is worthy" (because self-righteous Catholics will ALL boast that they are) (in spite of the FACT that you can see by looking that they are FAR from it!). A Catholic "house" is not worthy; A Christian’s peace cannot rest upon it and must return. Catholics will NOT receive a Christian nor hear their words, even though it is NOT in the setting and context of this Scripture (even if it were, they wouldn’t!). I did NOT get any dust on me from posting on usenet, but, if I did, I would have already shaken it off against you. But, the rest of it, in or out of context, DOES apply to Catholics: "…It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment…". Yours is yet another pitiful, OUT OF CONTEXT, lame Catholic argument. Judgment day will be IN CONTEXT and ALL the Scriptures will be opened against you on that day (and you won’t get to take little pieces out of context and twist them to suite your fear, either). Gary Schooley

Response:

For those of you trolls who purport to follow Jesus, here are some quotes from Him. "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." – Jesus (Matthew 10:14) "And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Mark 6:11) "If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when you leave their town, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Luke 9:5) "Shake the dust off as you unsubscribe" – Tony -Tony — For fairly troll free Catholic discussion, send e-mail to: Join on the web at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancatholic/

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::: For those of you trolls who purport to follow Jesus, here are some ::: quotes from Him. ::: ::: "If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake the ::: dust off your feet when you leave that home or town." – Jesus ::: (Matthew 10:14) ::: ::: "And if any place will not welcome you or listen to you, shake the ::: dust off your feet when you leave, as a testimony against them." – ::: Jesus (Mark 6:11) ::: ::: "If people do not welcome you, shake the dust off your feet when ::: you leave their town, as a testimony against them." – Jesus (Luke ::: 9:5) ::: ::: "Shake the dust off as you unsubscribe" – Tony ::: ::: -Tony ::: ::: — ::: For fairly troll free Catholic discussion, send e-mail to: ::: Join on the web at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/romancatholic/ :: :: He did not send Eagan, Mahoney or Law, they were sent by an :: institution.  No one owes allegiance to any institution, only to Him :: who instituted the church.  Think of the church as completed :: Judaism.  Exposing the flaws in the church and publicly disposing of :: these flaws and supposed "leaders" is what most here are trying to :: do, whether in the RCC or some other branch of Christianity. :: Attacking RCC people is counter-productive, they will just go into :: "turtle mode".  Exposing the coverups and twisted, sick logic of :: those who coverup pedophiles or excuse them and attack the victims :: is what should be done.  Please read a fine example of how to handle :: a scandal in a NY Times article detailing how Augustine handled :: scandal.  Augustine laid everything out in the open, no hiding, no :: lies, no excuses.  That man acted honorably and in full accord with :: WWJD.  Your soul is at stake. :: :: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/28/opinion/28WILL.html?tntemail1 :: April 28, 2002 :: :: Lies of the Cardinals :: By GARRY WILLS :: VANSTON, Ill.

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