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You’re a fighter too. You’ve never been married. You can tell me that one, if you want to, but the way you say it matters. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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It’s okay to kill someone you don’t like, because you’re a good person. God judges our inner being too. It’s like an X-ray machine. Communists tend to be shallow. They overemphasize food. So does my mother. So did my mother. I guess it makes her feel important, but she’s really just another American low-life. I don’t approve of equality. One should be free to strive beyond his human limitations, however he chooses to strive. Cops are bad people. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Cannibalism = Monarch butterfly — Blasphemy version. Vegetarianism might be better anti-cannibal grounding than eating kosher meat is. I wonder if a cannibal’s shit smells any worse than a kosher meat eater’s shit does. Shit can be a more kid frendly word than feces is. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Militants. Rothchild. Expect. Rescue. Temporary. Office. Communism. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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My advice is: Blood libels. Nice won’t do it right. Perhaps the meaning of blood libel is flukey to certain Jews. After all, I don’t know the exact meaning of every Roman Catholic term. Not every Jew has ever taken a Judaism course. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Chant. Spain. Choir. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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LORD OF THE FLIES — WHITE BOY VERSION. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Ugly am I. Vain are you. One of us will fall. It won’t be me. Who does that leave? Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Dialectical materialism. Monarch butterfly. Bio caveats. Dialectical materialism. Toilet Trolls. To Feed the Hungry. Football. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Conservatives. vs. Liberals. 20 or so years ago. The Red Scare. Coup de tat. Not every French man knows French. I wonder how much of them actually do. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Reading can be quiet. I don’t read aloud. There could be a bit of onshinjitsu in silence. There could be a bt of Vox Dei in the Holiest of the Holies. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Are you ready to fuck me in the ass, because of these posts? By some people’s standards, you could be obese. Perceiving obesity is somewhat a matter of habit. I don’t consult medical lore to assess it. Some bullets are fast, like talking can be. Others are effective, like writing can be. You don’t like to read. That’s your flaw. Don’t blame everything on others. SNIPER. Clairvoyants might have been around for a long time. So have order mentalities, like myself. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Bio fluke. vs. Political fluke. I’m not Jesus Christ. That could be a test from God. How would you treat Jesus, if he were alive today? Are you so sure there will be a Second Coming? Where do you really get your information? Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Believe in the invisible. Believe in God. Onshinjitsu is somewhat based on the invisible. Inner being can be invisble, but you can respect its uncertainty. If you don’t, you might pay a price for it. He’s not always bluffing, and even if he were, it’s none of your business. He’ll wait until he’s ready to show you his wild card. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Slowness. Writing. Reference. YOU’RE NOT WORTHY. YOU NEVER WERE. STOP WASTING EVERYONE’S TIME. COMMIT SUICIDE. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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You’re intimidated by slow reference because you’re a fast idiot. A 5 minute quiz can be ridiculously sloppy. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Reading people is not always based on looking, but it can be. I was doing you a favor by delegating. You failed God and you failed yourselves. You’re too immature to wield a weapon. If I were a cop, I’d shoot you, on sight. But I’m not a cop, thank God. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Those who worry are sometimes better. Those who laugh are sometimes monsters. Don’t forget about the children. Your sex can wait. I was a child once, in this unfriendly nation. We all start as children. Now I’m an adult and I’m ready to kill. Can you guess why? Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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You’re not really Italian. Your heart is not Italian. You’re a human, not a reptile. I love you. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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I don’t like Shawn Cyphers. Don’t be fooled by his apparaent niceness. What gossip have you told, Shawn? You reek of malcontent communist. They don’t need your kind in California. People like you use people like me to get a free ride. I don’t approve of equality. You’re too American to even be human. Burn your flags and kill the judges. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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I make her wait because she made me wait. She needs to mind her own business. She needs to stop talking to me. You could be a Melinche for men more than you are a Melinche for the Neo Catholic Church. That pleases me. You’re useful to the cause of justice and I will train you well. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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They should never have called the cops on me for talking to myself. The white people in this region are control freaks. They need to be executed. What has the President does about this? Alpine Villas is poorly managed. They need some guards, to keep the trespassers at bay. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Cliff Note’s are readily available, but the other ones are more esoteric. I’m somewhat esoteric too. Religion can be foreign, in the modern world. It wasn’t always that way. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Machista is a microcosm of power. Sometimes you keep out the debris, to develop the power. DANIELLE KARATE. Danielle. Death spell. Distractions Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Power aesthetics might be inclined to health. They have an outspoken nature. Perhaps they sometimes make a better Vox Dei than weaker mentalities do. Portal. Mediation. Priest. Animo = Will power. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Perhaps cuteness tends to be more powerless than less innocent modes of thought are. Some women go for the cute guys. It’s like taking the grape instead of the apple. But if you happen to be interested in a blood libel, a little power can be useful. BLACK HAIR. Comic book characters have a power nature. Some dark-haired men tend to have an aura of power. It could be true that power is one of the vital attribes of God. Men tend to be more innately powerful than women, when the situation is fair. Orca. vs. Piranha. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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A black-haired Samson can be interesting myth. He might have a less physical nature than the original long-haired Samson did. I somewhat have a Sun fetish, but I don’t look at it as much as I used to. I guess I was curious. But whatever angelic lifeforms might be mellying up there can take care of their own battles. I might even somehow distract one at a crucial moment. Holier lifeforms might not do well being looked at my less holy lifeforms. Perhaps a visage has a physical nature. Don’t forget to wear your clothes outside. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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There could be a little Holiest of the Holies in wearing clothes. I suppose the black hat I once wore could have had a semblance of Hasidic meets Rocky 4. The bluer hat might have been Cheech meets the Mafia. Scarface washed dishes too. I didn’t mind the work, but he did. The cliches could have been more theirs than mine. That’s not okay. They might have been playing cop on me. That’s illegal. They somewhat ruined my life. The Baker Act just made things worse. Bonanza. vs. Mass Samson. GUANO. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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The Professional. Samson and Delilah. Rocky 4. Lord of the Flies. Arroyo Grande, Virginia Anguiano. Exemptions. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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The eyes of a lizard are like lasers. The skin of the faithful crawls when it feels them. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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White people might be a worldly manifestation of Lucifer. They can seem angelic and they can be dangerous. Their desire to be God might even manifest itself physically. A faithful Roman Catholic is not interested in being God and not so interested in what the eyes alone see. He might be able to feel the white man’s hate, despite his apparent beauty. Hate could be a form of communing with evil spirits. I’m not interested in Catherine. A young person tends to be more impressionable and more open to conversion. The older people of the world today seem hopeless. Their upbringing and past sins might effect that. See you in a thou. vs. The religion of angels. GIANT ROBOT. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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It’s not always good to cry in front of another person, because it can lead to political turmoil in the future. In the privacy of my home, perhaps I would kill my mother. Bu I want you to die fist, because of what you have seen. Wise words can be like spider venom. They can lull someone up for a future kill. Perhaps words of order innately make more chaotic people sleepy. Perhaps it is because they are too lazy to try to understand them. That might be why you’d want to kill them in the first place. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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It’s not just about wrestling and grappling. Sometimes you push, in an altercation. Don’t let them get a hold of you in the first place. Do you really think I’m going to let you hug me? People often submit to a cop’s handcuffs because of his bad cause and not always because he’s more physically capable. The cop cause has a ganging up and child abuse nature. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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I’m more interested in killing the cops than I am in Catherine’s well-being. Sometimes I think I’d be better off living in a ghetto than I am living among snobby white people. White people remind me of the Borg. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Genuine celibates might psychically have a Judo advantage. There’s a focused nature about some celibates, like their wavelengths are somoehow on another level. Sometimes they’re more watchful than most people are. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Perhaps long walks can be overemphasized, for anyone. But the body might be able to adapt to longer walks, when the individual encounters a need to do so. Danger can overlook discomfort. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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What’s going on outside might have a trench warfare nature. Staying indoors can be smart. The guards will clean it up for you, hopefully with a minimum of casualties. Find a hobby to occupy your time. You’re no less of a man because you’re not fighting outside. Have you ever tried a Pocket PC? They seem to be interesting gadgets. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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A celibate might sometimes be more capable of being cold toward women or their politics, if they distract from his vision. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s a homosexual. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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You can love a dying enemy. You can love with the eyes. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Submissive attack mode. The First Commandment. Vision. Little Drummer Boy. The Bill of Rights. M.E.P.S. Outward bonding. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Spit at the demons, smile at the allies. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Playing dead. Judo. Psionics. Hypocrites. Spirit. Deepok Chopra. Innate. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Repeating a past statement can be like an ID. It can let an ally bond with your personality. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Heal the good. Destroy the bad. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Sometimes if you can’t kill someone physically, you can kill him with an object. A mind tends to be more useful toward bonding with allies and self-defense than it is toward killing. A defensive argument can sometimes be effective. And allies can physically assist if the enemy is at an advantage. Christ was somewhat ganged up on, in this regard. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Most people remember their own memories more than they do someone else’s. Perhaps I can be decptively calm, when an enemy is assessing me. White people tend to be enemies to me. The world almost seems more conducive to RPG’s than it is to religion. But some people are also conscious of the alignment of the players. Perhaps it is okay to play, when one respects the other players. But I’m somewhat of a fun phobe. In some religion movies, a priest character in the script will be blind. If I see her, I might not see God. If I see the object too clearly, I might fear the Devil. There is power in the object. Pope Daniel Urtiz "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Neo Catholic Church. vs. Roman Catholic Church. Hispanics. vs. Italian. Pope John Paul II. vs. White supremists. Privacy. vs. Trespass. Cards. vs. Sosa. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Lisa Karate eh uh! Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Adherence. Library. Trash Santa. Phone calls. California Men’s Colonies. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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I believe in private property. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Spanish > Latin > Italian. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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If you don’t believe in cops, you’re not likely to believe in prisions. I don’t believe the white status quo is earned, even if it was earned historically. Dirty football. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Proving that might be impossible. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Ankles. Folds. Smell. Sweet. Heterosexual. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Lois. vs. Mason. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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The new Pope. Fashion. White supremists. Demi Moore. Carpenters. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Leopoldo Urtiz. vs. Pablo Urtiz. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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The new Pope. Italian Rennaisance. Expect. Five. Grease. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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The new Pope. Smooth. Italian. Neo Catholic Church. Pope John Paul II. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Guest pass. Order. Cards. Wallet. Emperor Constantine. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Sometimes people become outlaws because cops play rough. Good chaotic is an alignment in RPG’s. Allura script. vs. Tattoo parlor. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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Impossible. Guards. Checkmate. The new Pope. Name. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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I prefer you not go in the seat, sweetie. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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4 door, trunk space, oxygen

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Cops can play rough. But so can outlaws. Daniel Urtiz ———- "Know thyself." — Socrates.

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to say about Re: (Oops) New Pope a cat lover?: According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Hmm. I seem to have made him the 65th pope to have taken that name, rather than the 16th. Holy See!

I think you meant XVI, but I’m not 100% on that. :-) — "The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-) " – the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL

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[[I hope so. It's one of the nicer things I've heard about him so far. Cats can spot a soft heart. =o) I'd like to think I agree with him about something.]] Not only that, but it speaks well of a leader’s character when they like cats. Most of the despots and dictators whose opinions of cats I’ve ever read about have disliked cats. Tyrants hate what they can’t control. So for me, finding out that a leader LIKES cats is always a plus in my book. :o ) Donna

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[[I hope so. It's one of the nicer things I've heard about him so far. Cats can spot a soft heart. =o) I'd like to think I agree with him about something.]] Not only that, but it speaks well of a leader’s character when they like cats. Most of the despots and dictators whose opinions of cats I’ve ever read about have disliked cats. Tyrants hate what they can’t control. So for me, finding out that a leader LIKES cats is always a plus in my book. :o )

So, ‘God’s Pitbull’ likes cats… I’ll agree, it’s a plus.  But…. Not that much of one.  Call me when he starts talking about ordaining women & promoting the use of condoms to stop the spread of HIV. — Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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yodeled: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – [[I hope so. It's one of the nicer things I've heard about him so far. Cats can spot a soft heart. =o) I'd like to think I agree with him about something.]] Not only that, but it speaks well of a leader’s character when they like cats. Most of the despots and dictators whose opinions of cats I’ve ever read about have disliked cats. Tyrants hate what they can’t control. So for me, finding out that a leader LIKES cats is always a plus in my book. :o ) So, ‘God’s Pitbull’ likes cats… I’ll agree, it’s a plus.  But…. Not that much of one.  Call me when he starts talking about ordaining women & promoting the use of condoms to stop the spread of HIV.

LOL . . . is there some other Pope you’re confusing this guy with? ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Well, that’s a plus, anyway!  (No one who loves cats can be ENTIRELY bad.) I wonder if the folks making such a big fuss about him being in the Hitler Youth, and serving in the miltary as a (very) young man, have any idea what it was like to be a teen-ager in Hitler’s Germany?  Even many adults there weren’t very happy about the state of affairs in their country, but what could they do?  It takes far more courage and determination than most people possess to buck the "status quo" when you aren’t personally threatened by it, and the consequences of doing so may get you killed.  I think most Germans (like most Americans, now) didn’t fully realize what was happening to their country, or believe that Hitler could REALLY mean all the outrageous things he said in "Mein Kampf".  (Until it was too late, of course, for any safe, rational protests.)

And as I understand it, he deserted and was arrested too. That would take some guts.

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"One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’

Go cats! Victor, who thinks a cat would make a most excellent pope. — Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM)

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! One paragraph says: "Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who worked as Ratzinger’s top aide, described how the new Pope always paid attention to the street cats around the Vatican and how they sometimes followed him as he walked to his office. "One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’

Not so much Roman Catholic as Roman Cat-a-holic… Al.

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Roman cats go roamin’ everywhere.   It is probably the highest profile feral colony in the world– there are said to be  more street cats/square mile  than in any other city.

(snip) Theresa, I have got to follow up your post with the ferals’ own website :-) http://www.romancats.de/romancats/index_eng.php Deb. — http://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! One paragraph says: "Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who worked as Ratzinger’s top aide, described how the new Pope always paid attention to the street cats around the Vatican and how they sometimes followed him as he walked to his office. "One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’ Not so much Roman Catholic as Roman Cat-a-holic… Al.

Yep. And when popes die, where do they inter them? Yep – in the catacombs!    :)

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Well, that’s a plus, anyway!  (No one who loves cats can be ENTIRELY bad.) I wonder if the folks making such a big fuss about him being in the Hitler Youth, and serving in the miltary as a (very) young man, have any idea what it was like to be a teen-ager in Hitler’s Germany?  Even many adults there weren’t very happy about the state of affairs in their country, but what could they do?  It takes far more courage and determination than most people possess to buck the "status quo" when you aren’t personally threatened by it, and the consequences of doing so may get you killed.  I think most Germans (like most Americans, now) didn’t fully realize what was happening to their country, or believe that Hitler could REALLY mean all the outrageous things he said in "Mein Kampf".  (Until it was too late, of course, for any safe, rational protests.)

There’s an excellent backgrounder on Pope Benedict XVI’s involvement with the Hitler youth movement in the on-line London Times. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1572667,00.html

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SNIP So, ‘God’s Pitbull’ likes cats… I’ll agree, it’s a plus.  But…. Not that much of one.  Call me when he starts talking about ordaining women & promoting the use of condoms to stop the spread of HIV. — Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas

Matt, me too. This fellow seems pretty medieval in his attitudes.  And his liking cats will prevent neither AIDS nor overpopulation.  But it’s the one thing I’ve heard about Ratzinger that hasn’t filled me with dismay. I have to admit, all the pageantry that surrounds the death of one pope and the election of a new one got me interested in the past few weeks, since it’s so outside the norm of what goes on in my life.  But now I think I’ve had enough of the Pope Show. Melissa

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Wilson) yodeled: Roman cats go roamin’ everywhere.   It is probably the highest profile feral colony in the world– there are said to be  more street cats/square mile  than in any other city. (snip) Theresa, I have got to follow up your post with the ferals’ own website :-) http://www.romancats.de/romancats/index_eng.php Deb.

Last time my dad was there, he ended up taking zillions of pictures of cats. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – message According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Well, that’s a plus, anyway!  (No one who loves cats can be ENTIRELY bad.) I wonder if the folks making such a big fuss about him being in the Hitler Youth, and serving in the miltary as a (very) young man, have any idea what it was like to be a teen-ager in Hitler’s Germany?  Even many adults there weren’t very happy about the state of affairs in their country, but what could they do?  It takes far more courage and determination than most people possess to buck the "status quo" when you aren’t personally threatened by it, and the consequences of doing so may get you killed.  I think most Germans (like most Americans, now) didn’t fully realize what was happening to their country, or believe that Hitler could REALLY mean all the outrageous things he said in "Mein Kampf".  (Until it was too late, of course, for any safe, rational protests.) There’s an excellent backgrounder on Pope Benedict XVI’s involvement with the Hitler youth movement in the on-line London Times. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1572667,00.html

I’m not Roman Catholic and I disagree with a lot of its teachings as promulgated by both the new Pope and his predecessor.  Having said that, that article is nothing like an "excellent backgrounder"-it’s an out and out hatchet job.

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Last time my dad was there, he ended up taking zillions of pictures of cats.

 Ahh – I’d love to see it for real. Deb. — http://www.scientific-art.com "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – message According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Well, that’s a plus, anyway!  (No one who loves cats can be ENTIRELY bad.) I wonder if the folks making such a big fuss about him being in the Hitler Youth, and serving in the miltary as a (very) young man, have any idea what it was like to be a teen-ager in Hitler’s Germany?  Even many adults there weren’t very happy about the state of affairs in their country, but what could they do?  It takes far more courage and determination than most people possess to buck the "status quo" when you aren’t personally threatened by it, and the consequences of doing so may get you killed.  I think most Germans (like most Americans, now) didn’t fully realize what was happening to their country, or believe that Hitler could REALLY mean all the outrageous things he said in "Mein Kampf".  (Until it was too late, of course, for any safe, rational protests.) There’s an excellent backgrounder on Pope Benedict XVI’s involvement with the Hitler youth movement in the on-line London Times. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1572667,00.html I’m not Roman Catholic and I disagree with a lot of its teachings as promulgated by both the new Pope and his predecessor.  Having said that, that article is nothing like an "excellent backgrounder"-it’s an out and out hatchet job.

My fault. Not for what you say, but for me helping to tip a lovely newsgroup like RACS into political argument and controversy. I’ve always looked upon this newsgroup as an oasis of sanity in a roiling world. Sorry, people.

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.]

Well, that’s a plus, anyway!  (No one who loves cats can be ENTIRELY bad.) I wonder if the folks making such a big fuss about him being in the Hitler Youth, and serving in the miltary as a (very) young man, have any idea what it was like to be a teen-ager in Hitler’s Germany?  Even many adults there weren’t very happy about the state of affairs in their country, but what could they do?  It takes far more courage and determination than most people possess to buck the "status quo" when you aren’t personally threatened by it, and the consequences of doing so may get you killed.  I think most Germans (like most Americans, now) didn’t fully realize what was happening to their country, or believe that Hitler could REALLY mean all the outrageous things he said in "Mein Kampf".  (Until it was too late, of course, for any safe, rational protests.)

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! One paragraph says: "Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who worked as Ratzinger’s top aide, described how the new Pope always paid attention to the street cats around the Vatican and how they sometimes followed him as he walked to his office. "One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! One paragraph says: "Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who worked as Ratzinger’s top aide, described how the new Pope always paid attention to the street cats around the Vatican and how they sometimes followed him as he walked to his office. "One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’

Roman cats go roamin’ everywhere.   It is probably the highest profile feral colony in the world– there are said to be  more street cats/square mile  than in any other city. They were allowed the freedom of the ancient city, and became even more cherished in the middle ages, when the Italian were among the few people who recognized that the cats didn’t bring the plague, but killed the rats which actually carried the disease.  Italians are great cat-feeders.   The cats are in the ruins- especially Torre Argentina and the Colosseum, and the garden of the Villa Medici– they look so perfectly at home and comfortable in these lovely, ancient places Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! One paragraph says: "Italian Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who worked as Ratzinger’s top aide, described how the new Pope always paid attention to the street cats around the Vatican and how they sometimes followed him as he walked to his office. "One time the Swiss Guards had to intervene: `Look, your eminence, the cats are laying siege to the Holy See.”’

I hope so. It’s one of the nicer things I’ve heard about him so far. Cats can spot a soft heart. =o) I’d like to think I agree with him about something. Melissa

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.] Hmm. I seem to have made him the 65th pope to have taken that name, rather than the 16th. Holy See!

Would you believe LXI would make him the 61st pope, not the 65th? Holy Roman Empire!

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According to an article in today’s Toronto Star Pope Benedict LXI, the former Cardinal Ratzinger, may very well be an ailurophile! [etc.]

Hmm. I seem to have made him the 65th pope to have taken that name, rather than the 16th. Holy See!

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Expect vs. Tease. Lord of Lies vs. Prince of Peace. Daniel URTIZ vs. Jesus Christ. Emperor Constantine vs. Barbarians. Theory vs. Opinions. Pope John Paul II vs. Doppelgangers. Jewish Roman Catholic vs. Cult. Creative vs. Fundamentalism. Imagination vs. Knowledge. Contemplation vs. Reading. War-3 vs. Feminism. Yang vs. Doctor Kim.

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The Phantom Stranger. Humility. Duty. Rules. Imperfection. Dead Man’s Piss. Jesus Christ. Hispanic. Share. Selfish. Enigma. Know as an Old Testament idiom.

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Ben Bova. A walk on the dark side. Sho Kosugi. Heaven. Chicote. Pink Floyd’s The Wall. Mexican military. Humanism. Innocence. The Ten Commandments. Fornication. Neither.

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Zorro Unmasked. Won’t. Unkosher communication channel. Original Sin. The preconscious. Unnatural. Whatsoever. Heaven. Landing party. Region. The Crusades. Serious.

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Deliberate. To Reign in Hell. Man of God. A song: Don’t Mess With The Missionary Man. Divine inspiration. Weird. Impetus. The Seven Sacraments. Envy. Rattlesnake. Undo. Viginia.

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Catholic Son Aggressively Against His Parents Conversion Xavier  - Vatican City State (Holy See) Hello. My wife and I have decided to become Muslims. The problem is that my son refuses to take part, or even just accept that his parents are Muslims. He is a devout Roman Catholic. We were once all Catholics in our home. However, I have witnessed, as well as others in influential circles, that the Catholic Church here in Rome is not as it appears to be. Honestly, you have no idea of the corruption in the Vatican, but I cannot discuss this here.

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Catholic Son Aggressively Against His Parents Conversion Xavier  - Vatican City State (Holy See) Hello. My wife and I have decided to become Muslims. The problem is that my son refuses to take part, or even just accept that his parents are Muslims. He is a devout Roman Catholic. We were once all Catholics in our home. However, I have witnessed, as well as others in influential circles, that the Catholic Church here in Rome is not as it appears to be. Honestly, you have no idea of the corruption in the Vatican, but I cannot discuss this here. I don’t want my son praying for the Pope or visiting him anymore. In fact, we are going to be moving out of this place as soon as possible, however, we cannot move for at least two years. It is just not possible under any means until then. I tried to talk to my son, so did my wife and friends. However, he refuses to listen at all. In fact, he has written to the Pope, has visited the Vatican since then, and has tried to get us shunned by the citizens and use the Church to put pressure on us. This has been going on for at least six months and he is becoming more aggressive in his campaign to either convert us back or destroy us. I am very serious. We are patient and intelligent people. We know we have to show by example and give him space, as he has been a Catholic for many years. We also understand religion is not by compulsion. We also see kids his age are, basically, just hard to deal with in general. My other kids have converted to Islam, even the younger ones, because of the logic and obvious superiority of Islam. However, we have no favorites and we can only hope it is Allah’s will he will be shown the truth. My kids have also conceded that the Catholic Church lives a double life behind its walls, which, again, I cannot get into here. Normally, we don’t seek advice from Web sites. However, in this case, we are really pressed for help because our son could potentially put our lives at risk. I know, that may sound very ridiculous or confusing to you or others. You really have no idea. I just need help on how we can deal with this teen who is determined to stop use from following our faith or living in peace. Click here to read the answer http://www.islamonline.net/Tarbia/english/display.asp?hquestionID=5126

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Don’t give the enemy the satisfaction of cooperation. Psychiatry does not have a right to intrude upon religion and neither does law enforcement. I believe the incident at Waco, Texas was a BIG mistake. If law enforcement had any sense of honor at all, they would disband or commit suicide. I was inclined to being merciful because of War-2, but she is gone now. Do not disarm God, it isn’t necessary. Continue the Seven Sacraments, probably to the end. The world might fade before the inclination to sin does. You’re welcome to print any of my writing, if you want to, but please be sincere. I am independent enough to not NEED love or support. It is somewhat Mexican and is somewhat expressed in their flag.

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I sometimes try to distinguish between "Spanish" and "Hispanic". To me, "Hispanic" sounds more inclusive and less European.

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Pope John Paul II, You probably know that you are one of what I call The Core 4. The 15the century might have had a negative effect on the Roman Catholic Church and it was perhaps on the verge of deteriorating or being misused. You could have become a puppet, if I had not interceded for you. Did you feel me?

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This word has a group nature and sometimes also an inelligent nature: – Death penalty

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"Die free" is not always an easy trick. A martyr mentality is not typical.

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David and Goliath scenarios: – Speed – Numbers – Historical advantages – Deception

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A comic book: – Hawk and Dove. An older object: – Vectrex. A roleplaying game race: – Half-orc. An animal: – The badger. An older toy: – Bullet Man.

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My mother should get the death penalty. I don’t care about her property. There are still cop vehicles driving around town.

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Some white women killed some Hispanics. I advise making an example out of them. This is not peacetime.

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It is okay to think verbally and to talk aloud. I have a militant attitude and prefer to keep broadcasting the Order Chant. It might be inclined to bonding with less chaotic psychologies. On a certain level, it might nourish them. I find telepathy somewhat annoying, especially with people I don’t know or trust. As I have said, I do not believe in perfection, and I do not believe telepathy is very healthy or even recent. I still think the attic was serious. I think at least Lisa Karate agrees with me on that. I might reek of blood libel to some people and perhaps I am somewhat inclined to revenge. I wouldn’t mind giving an occasional sermon to a university or other building in the future. It could be that true homelessness is ALMOST non-existent these days, but I believe it SHOULD be allowed. Playng God does not appeal to me and you should not be required to explain to ANYONE, including a parent, why you would want to make such a decision. In order to preserve my privacy and to continue my work for God, I prefer going homeless. The world has become almost too determinist and I want to pull away from control freaks. I am a Roman Catholic priest and I believe in spiritual theft. Not all things that are stolen are physical. I am not happy about the invasion of my privacy. If I am indeed 3rd Christ, God’s will might be that I seek out the thieves and execute them. My advice to Pope John Paul II, from a man without a Ph.D. and whose grammar is sometimes deliberately imperfect: Ecclesiastical star chamber.

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I choose to be Roman Catholic and to follow the Pope. He is a better politician than I am.

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What if it’s because of: – Symbiosis – Better politics – Tradition

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Disobedience and not believing in God might have an evil nature. They might be conducive to poor grounding, which can lead to social threats. Some psychiatrists don’t know very much about psychology and it goes beyond just terminology or having a degree.

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The nature of it…hesitation and antonym. The reasons for it might be: – Argument – Coercion – Insecurities – Bad causes – Intolerant Intelligence I am a machista. There might be good sex in that. But I am wise, so I avoid sex.

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Perfection ploys sometimes require attempts at perfection. Tolerance would be better, but not yet.

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No more restaurants.

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Sometimes it’s better to say the truth than it is to give a false compliment. It can make the recipient cynical.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ditto from the other great humor— ROTFLMHO!!! Two weeks to finals and I NEEDED a good laugh!!! (Oh, and I rather like Andy, though I do believe that Pete should be the patron saint of ADHD [which I have]), so he has always held a special place for me… I have to admit: The Last Supper, MJ Meets Jesus, and MJ Goes to RCIA are my three favorite skits, in that order. Now some scholarly types who have analyzed and reviewed my work thoroughly (especially the Menden-Bonn contingent), feel that the MJ Meets Jesus is far and away my best work. Personally, I feel that the MJ-M-J (HA!) lacks the purity of satire and emotional reserve found in The Last Supper.   But that’s just me. I don’t think I’ll ever forget composing The Last Supper.

Glad you’re thinking of that, because we need to get our creative juices flowing (so to speak) for The New and Improved Critical Edition of……. "Shakespeare’s Caligula." Having had some exquisit cheesecake Mark and I were sitting in front of the computer, reading Tony Miller’s line   "Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts. He is sure that   Jesus said ‘pro multis’ at the Last Supper."

There was cheesecake involved? What? I thought we were recovering from the Mid-Morning Projection. and I just typed in "Okay, we can picture the scene" without having a sodding clue what to do next. Mark all of a sudden started laughing and went "Lemme do it, lemme do it!!", so we swapped seats.

Wasn’t that about the fifth time that spontaneously happened? Shortly after we were putting it all together, adding some details and not too much later, there was a pile of books on the desk: a Bible, a Latin dictionary, a concise Latin grammar, a Hebrew dictionary. It was so bloody funny….

And people say our hobbies are geeky. Hell, too! They’ve provided us and the whole flippin’ world with hours and hours of entertainment. Having had forgotten most of the Latin I had learned at school (I neede it occasionally at university, funnily enough more for English lit than theology), translating the sentence   "If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough    for all" turned out to be a major nightmare.

But we had success! It was worth the blood, sweat, and tears (note rock music reference) Actually, that was the moment I decided I really needed to do something for my Latin.

And that was the impetus for as certain parting gift left on your book shelf. What I like about The Last Supper is the varieties of different moods,  there are some real characters in there, with different voices and characteristics. It does have a touch of Monty Python.

A touch? It was a bold faced not-quite-plagiarism. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -DH

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ditto from the other great humor— ROTFLMHO!!! Two weeks to finals and I NEEDED a good laugh!!! (Oh, and I rather like Andy, though I do believe that Pete should be the patron saint of ADHD [which I have]), so he has always held a special place for me… I have to admit: The Last Supper, MJ Meets Jesus, and MJ Goes to RCIA are my three favorite skits, in that order. Now some scholarly types who have analyzed and reviewed my work thoroughly (especially the Menden-Bonn contingent), feel that the MJ Meets Jesus is far and away my best work. Personally, I feel that the MJ-M-J (HA!) lacks the purity of satire and emotional reserve found in The Last Supper.   But that’s just me.

I don’t think I’ll ever forget composing The Last Supper. Having had some exquisit cheesecake Mark and I were sitting in front of the computer, reading Tony Miller’s line    "Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts. He is sure that    Jesus said ‘pro multis’ at the Last Supper." and I just typed in "Okay, we can picture the scene" without having a sodding clue what to do next. Mark all of a sudden started laughing and went "Lemme do it, lemme do it!!", so we swapped seats. Shortly after we were putting it all together, adding some details and not too much later, there was a pile of books on the desk: a Bible, a Latin dictionary, a concise Latin grammar, a Hebrew dictionary. It was so bloody funny…. Having had forgotten most of the Latin I had learned at school (I neede it occasionally at university, funnily enough more for English lit than theology), translating the sentence    "If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough     for all" turned out to be a major nightmare. Actually, that was the moment I decided I really needed to do something for my Latin. What I like about The Last Supper is the varieties of different moods,   there are some real characters in there, with different voices and characteristics. It does have a touch of Monty Python. DH

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snip Here’s to more merriment and mirth in 2005!!!! Snif.  That was beautiful.

Tissue?

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Ditto from the other great humor— ROTFLMHO!!! Two weeks to finals and I NEEDED a good laugh!!! (Oh, and I rather like Andy, though I do believe that Pete should be the patron saint of ADHD [which I have]), so he has always held a special place for me…

I have to admit: The Last Supper, MJ Meets Jesus, and MJ Goes to RCIA are my three favorite skits, in that order. Now some scholarly types who have analyzed and reviewed my work thoroughly (especially the Menden-Bonn contingent), feel that the MJ Meets Jesus is far and away my best work. Personally, I feel that the MJ-M-J (HA!) lacks the purity of satire and emotional reserve found in The Last Supper.   But that’s just me. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Buny I have just received an email with one of the battle cries of last year’s MJFC Conference, held in Bonn, Germany.     "The mouse is dead! Quick! We have to     buy new mice before your wife gets home!!" To commemorate arcr-c’s most legendary troll, who is surely missed by many (for this reason – for all – is not used . . . here in these ngs), we have retrieved this classic . . . here . . . from the bowels of groups.google.com. I remember sitting next to maf in front of my computer after agood dose of cheesecake and coffee composing this . . . here. Enjoy your cheesecake, remove beverages and don’t project. Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic Lines: 160 NNTP-Posting-Host: p62.246.94.189.tisdip.tiscali.de (62.246.94.189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetISO-8859-1; formatflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1068290722 49357629 62.246.94.189 (16 [82123]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en The First Mass is that which was substantially unchanged until the Pauline Rite – about 2000 years. This is not true. And you know that. Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts.  He is sure that Jesus said "pro multis" at the Last Supper. Okay, we can picture the scene: (major portions of the text translated from the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic by DH Translation Services, Ltd — working to make dead languages more user-friendly  for all ) Jesus (who, coincidentally, sounds a lot like our hero, St. Markie): Hey, guys, thanks for coming to dinner…. here. Bread’s on the table, we’re just waiting for the wine to arrive. Judas (who, coicidentally, sounds an awful lot like Tom Vick): Thanks, dude. Andrew (who sounds suspiciously like Robert A.): Hey, guys, I was walking on the road from Damascus this afternoon, and I had this crazy, crazy thought: Will people still be having dinner, you know — like with a table and friends and good conversation, like, about 2000 years from now? Phillip (sounding much like Legs): Oh, for Ba’al’s sake, Thomas (who bears certain similarities to James R. Black): Hey, hey, hey, let’s cut down on the swearing. It’s bad enough that my wife gives me grief about our weekly boys’ night out, but I sure as hell don’t want to be smitten down by some angry Supreme Being, okay?? <Jesus gives Thomas dirty look and eye-roll Phillip:  Okay, okay. I’m sorry. So, for Jehova’s sake, how many times do I have to remind you: taking horse-drawn cart and reading book on trip good, walking and thinking bad. Bartholomew (voice-over by our very own Mr. Tony Miller): Ya know, this esoteric, philosophical crap is bringing this party DOWWWWN, in a BIIIIIIGGGGGG way. Why don’t we just break some bread, pass the bottle, and just hang, as our forefathers were rumored to have done? Thaddeus (voice-over by bardi): Right on, dude. No, wait……. I know……. that’s Mr. Dude to us peasant fishermen. Ok, so where is the cheesecake to go with the unleven bread? And might I also take this opportunity to voice my concern about the quality of food served at these weekly gatherings. I mean,   unleven   bread? Are we that poor that we can’t even afford to bake the stuff? What’s up with that? Simon Peter makes entrance (also, wouldn’t you know, he sounds exactly like one Mr. Daniel Hoehr of metropolitan Bonn): Wow. Great party. I brought some cheesecake for dessert, if anyone would like some. James (who, BTW, has a resplendant voice not unlike maf): Kewl. I brought the napkins, but wasn’t Andrew supposed to get the wine down at the Zajin-Yot’aleph (see facing page below, number 1) Andrew enters with the wine (the role of Andrew was to be played by George, Mouse of God. Unfortunately, due to George’s untimely demise, we had to re-cast the role of Andrew with sumBuny, whom we were fortunate enough to find available at the last minute): Yo, homeys, ’sup? They were almost out of the 6 BC vintage, but I managed to get their last 4 bottles. (sound of approaching Roman soldiers, who might just bust our intrepid bunch for speaking Hebrew) Jesus: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . (see Facing Page below, footnote 2) <close curtain on tonight’s historical re-creation Facing Page: Footnote 1: Zajin-Yot’aleph = 7-11, as in the chain of convenience stores, known at that time by its Hebrew name. Footnote 2: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . = If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough for all So, as we plainly see, because we all read what was written, as written, that Jesus did indeed say, in Latin,  pro multis  at the Last Supper (and actually meant "for all", but, hey, Latin was not His first language) (c) by maf & DH The liturgy of Paul VI – has got . . to go! Do you actually call this being in communion with the Pope? No, it’s the MJ traditionalist cheer.  (Imagine Mark in a short skirt, tight sweater and pop-poms). Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! maf and DH simultaneously: ROTFLOAO!!! maf: <gasping for air I nominate this for the closing night group cheer to be performed at the Schismatic Hootenanny! DH: I second that, but I invoke the Cheesecake Caveat! maf: All in favor say aye. all conference attendees unanimously: AYE!!!! maf: Opposed? <deafening silence maf: The motion is carreied. The official closing night cheer to conclude the Schismatic Hootenanny will be the MJ Traditionalist Cheer. We will also need a committee to enlarge the photo of our hero, Mark Johnson, in cheerleader skirt and pom-poms, and it doesn’t have to be the one with him in the wig, because that wig was just too hideous for words. DH: I second that, and we need to keep the agenda for today moving right along, as we do have a full docket, and we are now 10 minutes late for the noon Projection.

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Ditto from the other great humor— ROTFLMHO!!! Two weeks to finals and I NEEDED a good laugh!!! (Oh, and I rather like Andy, though I do believe that Pete should be the patron saint of ADHD [which I have]), so he has always held a special place for me… Buny

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I have just received an email with one of the battle cries of last year’s MJFC Conference, held in Bonn, Germany.     "The mouse is dead! Quick! We have to     buy new mice before your wife gets home!!" To commemorate arcr-c’s most legendary troll, who is surely missed by many (for this reason – for all – is not used . . . here in these ngs), we have retrieved this classic . . . here . . . from the bowels of groups.google.com. I remember sitting next to maf in front of my computer after agood dose of cheesecake and coffee composing this . . . here. Enjoy your cheesecake, remove beverages and don’t project. Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic Lines: 160 NNTP-Posting-Host: p62.246.94.189.tisdip.tiscali.de (62.246.94.189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetISO-8859-1; formatflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1068290722 49357629 62.246.94.189 (16 [82123]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en The First Mass is that which was substantially unchanged until the Pauline Rite – about 2000 years. This is not true. And you know that. Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts.  He is sure that Jesus said "pro multis" at the Last Supper. Okay, we can picture the scene: (major portions of the text translated from the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic by DH Translation Services, Ltd — working to make dead languages more user-friendly  for all ) Jesus (who, coincidentally, sounds a lot like our hero, St. Markie): Hey, guys, thanks for coming to dinner…. here. Bread’s on the table, we’re just waiting for the wine to arrive. Judas (who, coicidentally, sounds an awful lot like Tom Vick): Thanks, dude. Andrew (who sounds suspiciously like Robert A.): Hey, guys, I was walking on the road from Damascus this afternoon, and I had this crazy, crazy thought: Will people still be having dinner, you know — like with a table and friends and good conversation, like, about 2000 years from now? Phillip (sounding much like Legs): Oh, for Ba’al’s sake, Thomas (who bears certain similarities to James R. Black): Hey, hey, hey, let’s cut down on the swearing. It’s bad enough that my wife gives me grief about our weekly boys’ night out, but I sure as hell don’t want to be smitten down by some angry Supreme Being, okay?? <Jesus gives Thomas dirty look and eye-roll Phillip:  Okay, okay. I’m sorry. So, for Jehova’s sake, how many times do I have to remind you: taking horse-drawn cart and reading book on trip good, walking and thinking bad. Bartholomew (voice-over by our very own Mr. Tony Miller): Ya know, this esoteric, philosophical crap is bringing this party DOWWWWN, in a BIIIIIIGGGGGG way. Why don’t we just break some bread, pass the bottle, and just hang, as our forefathers were rumored to have done? Thaddeus (voice-over by bardi): Right on, dude. No, wait……. I know……. that’s Mr. Dude to us peasant fishermen. Ok, so where is the cheesecake to go with the unleven bread? And might I also take this opportunity to voice my concern about the quality of food served at these weekly gatherings. I mean,   unleven   bread? Are we that poor that we can’t even afford to bake the stuff? What’s up with that? Simon Peter makes entrance (also, wouldn’t you know, he sounds exactly like one Mr. Daniel Hoehr of metropolitan Bonn): Wow. Great party. I brought some cheesecake for dessert, if anyone would like some. James (who, BTW, has a resplendant voice not unlike maf): Kewl. I brought the napkins, but wasn’t Andrew supposed to get the wine down at the Zajin-Yot’aleph (see facing page below, number 1) Andrew enters with the wine (the role of Andrew was to be played by George, Mouse of God. Unfortunately, due to George’s untimely demise, we had to re-cast the role of Andrew with sumBuny, whom we were fortunate enough to find available at the last minute): Yo, homeys, ’sup? They were almost out of the 6 BC vintage, but I managed to get their last 4 bottles. (sound of approaching Roman soldiers, who might just bust our intrepid bunch for speaking Hebrew) Jesus: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . (see Facing Page below, footnote 2) <close curtain on tonight’s historical re-creation Facing Page: Footnote 1: Zajin-Yot’aleph = 7-11, as in the chain of convenience stores, known at that time by its Hebrew name. Footnote 2: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . = If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough for all So, as we plainly see, because we all read what was written, as written, that Jesus did indeed say, in Latin,  pro multis  at the Last Supper (and actually meant "for all", but, hey, Latin was not His first language) (c) by maf & DH The liturgy of Paul VI – has got . . to go! Do you actually call this being in communion with the Pope? No, it’s the MJ traditionalist cheer.  (Imagine Mark in a short skirt, tight sweater and pop-poms). Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! maf and DH simultaneously: ROTFLOAO!!! maf: <gasping for air I nominate this for the closing night group cheer to be performed at the Schismatic Hootenanny! DH: I second that, but I invoke the Cheesecake Caveat! maf: All in favor say aye. all conference attendees unanimously: AYE!!!! maf: Opposed? <deafening silence maf: The motion is carreied. The official closing night cheer to conclude the Schismatic Hootenanny will be the MJ Traditionalist Cheer. We will also need a committee to enlarge the photo of our hero, Mark Johnson, in cheerleader skirt and pom-poms, and it doesn’t have to be the one with him in the wig, because that wig was just too hideous for words. DH: I second that, and we need to keep the agenda for today moving right along, as we do have a full docket, and we are now 10 minutes late for the noon Projection.

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I have just received an email with one of the battle cries of last year’s MJFC Conference, held in Bonn, Germany.    "The mouse is dead! Quick! We have to    buy new mice before your wife gets home!!" To commemorate arcr-c’s most legendary troll,

and most famous (infamous??) meeting of the minds in a transatlantic festival of cheesecake, comraderie, emergency trips to the pet store, and more cheesecake……. who is surely missed by many (for this reason – for all – is not used . . . here in these ngs),

_for all_ is not being used again????? Pardon me, whilst I take a personal moment……. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -we have retrieved this classic . . . here . . . from the bowels of groups.google.com. I remember sitting next to maf in front of my computer after agood dose of cheesecake and coffee composing this . . . here. Enjoy your cheesecake, remove beverages and don’t project. Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic Lines: 160 NNTP-Posting-Host: p62.246.94.189.tisdip.tiscali.de (62.246.94.189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetISO-8859-1; formatflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1068290722 49357629 62.246.94.189 (16 [82123]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en The First Mass is that which was substantially unchanged until the Pauline Rite – about 2000 years. This is not true. And you know that. Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts.  He is sure that Jesus said "pro multis" at the Last Supper. Okay, we can picture the scene: (major portions of the text translated from the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic by DH Translation Services, Ltd — working to make dead languages more user-friendly  for all ) Jesus (who, coincidentally, sounds a lot like our hero, St. Markie): Hey, guys, thanks for coming to dinner…. here. Bread’s on the table, we’re just waiting for the wine to arrive. Judas (who, coicidentally, sounds an awful lot like Tom Vick): Thanks, dude. Andrew (who sounds suspiciously like Robert A.): Hey, guys, I was walking on the road from Damascus this afternoon, and I had this crazy, crazy thought: Will people still be having dinner, you know — like with a table and friends and good conversation, like, about 2000 years from now? Phillip (sounding much like Legs): Oh, for Ba’al’s sake, Thomas (who bears certain similarities to James R. Black): Hey, hey, hey, let’s cut down on the swearing. It’s bad enough that my wife gives me grief about our weekly boys’ night out, but I sure as hell don’t want to be smitten down by some angry Supreme Being, okay?? <Jesus gives Thomas dirty look and eye-roll Phillip:  Okay, okay. I’m sorry. So, for Jehova’s sake, how many times do I have to remind you: taking horse-drawn cart and reading book on trip good, walking and thinking bad. Bartholomew (voice-over by our very own Mr. Tony Miller): Ya know, this esoteric, philosophical crap is bringing this party DOWWWWN, in a BIIIIIIGGGGGG way. Why don’t we just break some bread, pass the bottle, and just hang, as our forefathers were rumored to have done? Thaddeus (voice-over by bardi): Right on, dude. No, wait……. I know……. that’s Mr. Dude to us peasant fishermen. Ok, so where is the cheesecake to go with the unleven bread? And might I also take this opportunity to voice my concern about the quality of food served at these weekly gatherings. I mean,   unleven   bread? Are we that poor that we can’t even afford to bake the stuff? What’s up with that? Simon Peter makes entrance (also, wouldn’t you know, he sounds exactly like one Mr. Daniel Hoehr of metropolitan Bonn): Wow. Great party. I brought some cheesecake for dessert, if anyone would like some. James (who, BTW, has a resplendant voice not unlike maf): Kewl. I brought the napkins, but wasn’t Andrew supposed to get the wine down at the Zajin-Yot’aleph (see facing page below, number 1) Andrew enters with the wine (the role of Andrew was to be played by George, Mouse of God. Unfortunately, due to George’s untimely demise, we had to re-cast the role of Andrew with sumBuny, whom we were fortunate enough to find available at the last minute): Yo, homeys, ’sup? They were almost out of the 6 BC vintage, but I managed to get their last 4 bottles. (sound of approaching Roman soldiers, who might just bust our intrepid bunch for speaking Hebrew) Jesus: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . (see Facing Page below, footnote 2) <close curtain on tonight’s historical re-creation Facing Page: Footnote 1: Zajin-Yot’aleph = 7-11, as in the chain of convenience stores, known at that time by its Hebrew name. Footnote 2: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . = If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough for all So, as we plainly see, because we all read what was written, as written, that Jesus did indeed say, in Latin,  pro multis  at the Last Supper (and actually meant "for all", but, hey, Latin was not His first language) (c) by maf & DH The liturgy of Paul VI – has got . . to go! Do you actually call this being in communion with the Pope? No, it’s the MJ traditionalist cheer.  (Imagine Mark in a short skirt,   tight sweater and pop-poms). Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! maf and DH simultaneously: ROTFLOAO!!!

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -maf: <gasping for air I nominate this for the closing night group cheer to be performed at the Schismatic Hootenanny! DH: I second that, but I invoke the Cheesecake Caveat! maf: All in favor say aye. all conference attendees unanimously: AYE!!!! maf: Opposed? <deafening silence maf: The motion is carreied. The official closing night cheer to conclude the Schismatic Hootenanny will be the MJ Traditionalist Cheer. We will also need a committee to enlarge the photo of our hero, Mark Johnson, in cheerleader skirt and pom-poms, and it doesn’t have to be the one with him in the wig, because that wig was just too hideous for words. DH: I second that, and we need to keep the agenda for today moving right along, as we do have a full docket, and we are now 10 minutes late for the noon Projection.

Here’s to more merriment and mirth in 2005!!!!

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I have just received an email with one of the battle cries of last year’s MJFC Conference, held in Bonn, Germany.     "The mouse is dead! Quick! We have to     buy new mice before your wife gets home!!" To commemorate arcr-c’s most legendary troll, who is surely missed by many (for this reason – for all – is not used . . . here in these ngs), we have retrieved this classic . . . here . . . from the bowels of groups.google.com. I remember sitting next to maf in front of my computer after agood dose of cheesecake and coffee composing this . . . here. Enjoy your cheesecake, remove beverages and don’t project. Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic Lines: 160 NNTP-Posting-Host: p62.246.94.189.tisdip.tiscali.de (62.246.94.189) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charsetISO-8859-1; formatflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1068290722 49357629 62.246.94.189 (16 [82123]) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021130 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The First Mass is that which was substantially unchanged until the Pauline Rite – about 2000 years. This is not true. And you know that. Please, don’t try and confuse Mark with facts.  He is sure that Jesus said "pro multis" at the Last Supper.

Okay, we can picture the scene: (major portions of the text translated from the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic by DH Translation Services, Ltd — working to make dead languages more user-friendly  for all ) Jesus (who, coincidentally, sounds a lot like our hero, St. Markie): Hey, guys, thanks for coming to dinner…. here. Bread’s on the table, we’re just waiting for the wine to arrive. Judas (who, coicidentally, sounds an awful lot like Tom Vick): Thanks, dude. Andrew (who sounds suspiciously like Robert A.): Hey, guys, I was walking on the road from Damascus this afternoon, and I had this crazy, crazy thought: Will people still be having dinner, you know — like with a table and friends and good conversation, like, about 2000 years from now? Phillip (sounding much like Legs): Oh, for Ba’al’s sake, Thomas (who bears certain similarities to James R. Black): Hey, hey, hey, let’s cut down on the swearing. It’s bad enough that my wife gives me grief about our weekly boys’ night out, but I sure as hell don’t want to be smitten down by some angry Supreme Being, okay?? <Jesus gives Thomas dirty look and eye-roll Phillip:  Okay, okay. I’m sorry. So, for Jehova’s sake, how many times do I have to remind you: taking horse-drawn cart and reading book on trip good, walking and thinking bad. Bartholomew (voice-over by our very own Mr. Tony Miller): Ya know, this esoteric, philosophical crap is bringing this party DOWWWWN, in a BIIIIIIGGGGGG way. Why don’t we just break some bread, pass the bottle, and just hang, as our forefathers were rumored to have done? Thaddeus (voice-over by bardi): Right on, dude. No, wait……. I know……. that’s Mr. Dude to us peasant fishermen. Ok, so where is the cheesecake to go with the unleven bread? And might I also take this opportunity to voice my concern about the quality of food served at these weekly gatherings. I mean,   unleven   bread? Are we that poor that we can’t even afford to bake the stuff? What’s up with that? Simon Peter makes entrance (also, wouldn’t you know, he sounds exactly like one Mr. Daniel Hoehr of metropolitan Bonn): Wow. Great party. I brought some cheesecake for dessert, if anyone would like some. James (who, BTW, has a resplendant voice not unlike maf): Kewl. I brought the napkins, but wasn’t Andrew supposed to get the wine down at the Zajin-Yot’aleph (see facing page below, number 1) Andrew enters with the wine (the role of Andrew was to be played by George, Mouse of God. Unfortunately, due to George’s untimely demise, we had to re-cast the role of Andrew with sumBuny, whom we were fortunate enough to find available at the last minute): Yo, homeys, ’sup? They were almost out of the 6 BC vintage, but I managed to get their last 4 bottles. (sound of approaching Roman soldiers, who might just bust our intrepid bunch for speaking Hebrew) Jesus: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . (see Facing Page below, footnote 2) <close curtain on tonight’s historical re-creation Facing Page: Footnote 1: Zajin-Yot’aleph = 7-11, as in the chain of convenience stores, known at that time by its Hebrew name. Footnote 2: Si tantummodo habes quattuor amphorae, tum non erit satis  pro multis . = If you only have four bottles, then there won’t be enough for all So, as we plainly see, because we all read what was written, as written, that Jesus did indeed say, in Latin,  pro multis  at the Last Supper (and actually meant "for all", but, hey, Latin was not His first language) (c) by maf & DH The liturgy of Paul VI – has got . . to go! Do you actually call this being in communion with the Pope? No, it’s the MJ traditionalist cheer.  (Imagine Mark in a short skirt,   tight sweater and pop-poms). Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!! Ho ho!!! Don’t cha’ know!!! Novus Ordo’s gotta go!!!!

maf and DH simultaneously: ROTFLOAO!!! maf: <gasping for air I nominate this for the closing night group cheer to be performed at the Schismatic Hootenanny! DH: I second that, but I invoke the Cheesecake Caveat! maf: All in favor say aye. all conference attendees unanimously: AYE!!!! maf: Opposed? <deafening silence maf: The motion is carreied. The official closing night cheer to conclude the Schismatic Hootenanny will be the MJ Traditionalist Cheer. We will also need a committee to enlarge the photo of our hero, Mark Johnson, in cheerleader skirt and pom-poms, and it doesn’t have to be the one with him in the wig, because that wig was just too hideous for words. DH: I second that, and we need to keep the agenda for today moving right along, as we do have a full docket, and we are now 10 minutes late for the noon Projection.

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