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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord? The demon in the book of genesis. JP Please force yourself to be direct. What demon and what is the citation?
Please quit playing stupid. The demon in Genesis is referred to as God or the Lord. That is the character. Or are you just stupid? — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong. Why should they have known that the failure to obey was wrong? JP The meaning of obedience was obviously understood by the man and the woman!
That isn’t obvious at all. I doubt they knew what "die" meant either. It had nothing to do with the understanding of right and wrong. For instance (all analyses are odious, says the sage) if you were in the military and assigned work to subordinates as a disciplinary measure, there is a good chance you would not know that is against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (right and wrong).
Nonsense. You would know right and wrong exist. You would not chop off someone’s hand or shoot someone as a disciplinary measure. They were children, and treated atrociously by god in the story. JP Who, or what, is "god?"
The demon in the book of genesis. — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord? The demon in the book of genesis. JP Please force yourself to be direct. What demon and what is the citation? Please quit playing stupid. The demon in Genesis is referred to as God or the Lord. That is the character. Or are you just stupid? JP Your language brightly displays your internal anger. It has disengaged your intellect. I will no longer dialogue with you on this thread because you seem to be drenched with conflicts.
Run away, twit, run away. — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord? The demon in the book of genesis. JP Please force yourself to be direct. What demon and what is the citation? Please quit playing stupid. The demon in Genesis is referred to as God or the Lord. That is the character. Or are you just stupid?
JP Your language brightly displays your internal anger. It has disengaged your intellect. I will no longer dialogue with you on this thread because you seem to be drenched with conflicts. . . . Be in peace. Jerry
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong. Why should they have known that the failure to obey was wrong? JP The meaning of obedience was obviously understood by the man and the woman! That isn’t obvious at all. I doubt they knew what "die" meant either. JP Had God not told them? It had nothing to do with the understanding of right and wrong. For instance (all analyses are odious, says the sage) if you were in the military and assigned work to subordinates as a disciplinary measure, there is a good chance you would not know that is against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (right and wrong). Nonsense. You would know right and wrong exist. You would not chop off someone’s hand or shoot someone as a disciplinary measure. JP Was my example too difficult? If you were told it was against the UCMJ, then you would know. God told the man and the woman what not to do.
I guess god was surprised when they used their free will that God insisted they have. hahah They were children, and treated atrociously by god in the story. JP Who, or what, is "god?" The demon in the book of genesis. JP Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting.
no such thing as demons. otherwise there may be several gods. Honkey Bill
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord? The demon in the book of genesis.
JP Please force yourself to be direct. What demon and what is the citation?
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Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord?
The demon in the book of genesis. — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting. It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord".
JP That tells me nothing. Who is god or lord?
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Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting.
It is referred to alternatively as "god" or "the lord". — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong. Why should they have known that the failure to obey was wrong? JP The meaning of obedience was obviously understood by the man and the woman! That isn’t obvious at all. I doubt they knew what "die" meant either.
JP Had God not told them? It had nothing to do with the understanding of right and wrong. For instance (all analyses are odious, says the sage) if you were in the military and assigned work to subordinates as a disciplinary measure, there is a good chance you would not know that is against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (right and wrong). Nonsense. You would know right and wrong exist. You would not chop off someone’s hand or shoot someone as a disciplinary measure.
JP Was my example too difficult? If you were told it was against the UCMJ, then you would know. God told the man and the woman what not to do. They were children, and treated atrociously by god in the story. JP Who, or what, is "god?" The demon in the book of genesis.
JP Tell me about this demon. This should be very interesting.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong. Why should they have known that the failure to obey was wrong?
JP The meaning of obedience was obviously understood by the man and the woman! It had nothing to do with the understanding of right and wrong. For instance (all analyses are odious, says the sage) if you were in the military and assigned work to subordinates as a disciplinary measure, there is a good chance you would not know that is against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (right and wrong). They were children, and treated atrociously by god in the story.
JP Who, or what, is "god?" . . . Blessings, Jerry http://www.dslextreme.com/users/jerry53/
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God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body .
In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong.
JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong. . . . Blessings, Jerry http://www.dslextreme.com/users/jerry53/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . In my mind what is funny about this story is that Adam and Eve couldn’t have had any notion that they were doing something wrong before they ate from the tree that gave then the notion of right and wrong. JP You missed the point. The point is the failure to obey. It was not until they failed to obey that they learned the difference between right and wrong.
Why should they have known that the failure to obey was wrong? They were children, and treated atrociously by god in the story. — Bush Lied. Anybody But Bush. Regime change begins at home.
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Although Adam was made in the image of God , so was Eve , although indirectly , since God made Eve out of one of the ribs of Adam . I personally believe in the Creation story of the Old Testament book of Genesis as a parable , not as literal facts of history [ see Matthew 13 : 10 - 17 , for an explanation by Jesus Christ for the purpose of parables ] . A literal interpretation of the Bible can sometimes lead to sin . For example , according to a literal interpretation of the Bible , the children of Adam and Eve in order to produce offspring would have been guilty of the sin of incest , as would the grandchildren of Noah . God warned Adam , and Adam presumably warned Eve , not to eat the fruit of forbidden knowledge , that is , the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and the knowledge of what true death is , i.e. , eternal damnation of the soul and body . The rest of the living things were all made good by God , and the animals did not lose their innocence by eating the fruit of forbidden knowledge [ see Genesis chapters 1 - 3 ] . The talking and cunning snake in the Garden of Eden was Satan , the fallen angel , in disguise [ see Revelation 12 : 7 - 9 ] . When animals do something violent , they do it in ignorance of the knowledge of what the difference between right and wrong is , and therefore in innocence , whereas when humans do something violent , they do it in knowledge , and therefore with a guilty conscience . Although eating both animals and plants is morally acceptable for humans , eating only plants is even better [ see Genesis 1 : 29 - 30 ]. In the Roman Catholic denomination of Christianity , the patron saint of nature and all living things is St. Francis of Assisi . Proverbs 12 : 10 says that " A righteous man regards the life of his animal , but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel ." Animals are neither to be tortured nor neglected , and they are to be killed as quickly and as painlessly as possible only for the sake of food and commercial items . Animals are not to be hunted to extinction . Revelation 11 : 18 says that God will destroy those who destroy the earth . Psalm 104 and Psalm 148 in the Old Testament have many uplifting verses praising the beauty of God’s creation , which , according to Genesis chapters 1 – 2 , God made all of it to be good . One day the seas might be turned into large lakes . Some of the verses of Ezekiel , chapter 47 , say that the Dead Sea , an extremely salty lake , will one day be turned into a fresh water lake, with as many kinds of fish living in its waters as there are in the Mediterranean Sea. Jesus Christ , who was God Himself in the body of a man when He was on earth [ the Gospel of St. John 1 : 1 - 5 ] , once miraculously fed 5000 adult males , besides the women and children , on the shores of the large fresh water lake called the Sea of Galilee , also known as Lake Gennesaret or Lake Tiberias , and He also walked on the surface of Lake Galilee by means of a miracle [ Matthew 14 : 13 - 36 ] . If God wanted to , He could make whales live in large fresh water lakes with a never ending supply of food , because nothing is impossible with God [ see Mark 10 : 27 ] . Somewhere in the verses of Isaiah , chapter 11 , it is said that one day the lion will be turned into a harmless herbivore , and that children will play with poisonous snakes , and not be hurt by them . The Caspian Sea , a large salt lake that is about nine tenths the size of the state of California in area , has seals , porpoises , tortoises , and alligators living in its waters , although over the last few centuries they have nearly been hunted to extinction . The Caspian Sea was once connected to the Seven Seas in prehistoric times , although continental drift eventually enclosed the prehistoric Tethys Sea . Lake Baikal or Baykal , a large fresh water lake that is little bit more than three quarters the size of Switzerland in area , also has seals living in its waters . Lake Baikal is located far inland in Russian Siberia , and is connected to the distant Arctic Ocean by the Angara River , which was much wider in prehistoric times before continental plate movement or tectonics narrowed the river . Albrecht Ploum in his book called " Natural Mirrors of the Universe " [ Spiegelbilder des Universums ] , likened the shape of the human embryo to Pangaea , the prehistoric world super continent that existed 200 million years ago , before the individual continents split apart . Pangaea was surrounded by a world ocean called Panthalassa , much as the human embryo is surrounded in the watery womb , supplied with food , water , and oxygen by the umbilical cord . God , who was powerful enough to create the universe out of the nothingness of space by the Big Bang event many billions of years ago , is also powerful enough to suspend the laws of physics , which He created , or at least allowed to evolve within certain set rules , by means of miracles . God is indeed the eternal , with no beginning and no end , timeless , omnipotent , omniscient , perfect being who is the uncaused first cause of Aristotle [ see the Acts of the Apostles , chapter 17 : 16 - 34 ] . St. Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 3 : 2 that his brethren should pray for Christian evangelists to be saved from "unreasonable and wicked men; for not all have faith." So reason and faith do go together. God is good and perfect because He is the supreme being. The goodness of God is reflected in Sigmund Freud’s concept of the superego [ the conscience ], when compared with the ego [ the rational intellect ] and the id [ the instinct ].
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