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I’m not a "liberal". They hate our Constitution. As does the Reichpublicans. I’m a libertarian…as in liberty. That includeds individual rights and mythical terrorists. liberty over "safety" every time Bubba!

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Path: sn-us!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups:        alt.politics.greens,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-cat        holic,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.christnet,sci.environment,alt.politics.libe        ralism Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Lines: 43 Xref: sn-us alt.politics.greens:232861 alt.society.liberalism:1157421        alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic:855312 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2278990        alt.christnet:752748 sci.environment:392771 alt.politics.liberalism:478875 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?   The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles.  And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable. Like Afghanistan? "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com He’s an idiot. No regard for ethic context in his arguments. Japan and germany did not have the Islamic vs. Israel/US tension behind them. He is a dittohead dolt. not worth a response.

It’s fun to make them flail around. I pointed out earlier today that while German and Japan were indisputably sucess stories, we were stuck in Japan for seven years after the war ended, and Germany nearly 50.  And those were GOOD post-war occupations.   I wonder what French and British historians make of our efforts to reform Iraqi society? "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the  region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable. So, what are we waiting for: REGIME CHANGE IN WASHINGTON DC! Let’s get rid of the brutal murderous dictators.

<yawn  Say something new.

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alt.politics.liberalism:478745 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain So when will the brutal murderous American dictator be cleaned out? When are you leaving the country? when are you Nazi? go to Israel, they like Nazis. Or Saudi Arabia. same thing really.

Is that the best you can do?  I thought liberals were supposed to be smart… well, at least you guys think you are.  Gimme something better than that!

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when are you Nazi? go to Israel, they like Nazis. Or Saudi Arabia. same thing really.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Path: sn-us!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups:    alt.politics.greens,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-cat    holic,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.christnet,sci.environment,alt.politics.libe    ralism Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en Lines: 103 Xref: sn-us alt.politics.greens:232812 alt.society.liberalism:1157329    alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic:855258 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2278800    alt.christnet:752734 sci.environment:392749 alt.politics.liberalism:478787 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable. Hmm.  What follows is a post I made in alt.politics.bush, but it is also appropos to your post quoted above: ===begin copied post=== Well, let’s look back in history just a bit, shall we?         "[...] Our armies do not come into your cities         and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as         liberators. [...] People of Baghdad, remember         for 26 generations you have suffered under strange         tyrants who have ever endeavoured to set one Arab         house against another in order that they might         profit by your dissensions. [...] This policy is         abhorrent [...] for there can be neither peace nor         prosperity where there is enmity or misgovernment."                 Lt. Gen. Stanley Maude                 Baghdad, March 8, 1917 Thus began Britain’s last attempt to "take care of business over there" in Iraq in 1917.  They were sucessful with their military invasion and kicking out the then "tyrant."  The problems came when they tried to win the peace.  About a similar attempt in another Middle East country, Churcill was to say:         "At first, the steps were wide and shallow,         covered with a carpet, but in the end the         very stones crumbled under their feet." The country?  Palestine. Want more information? http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3224&sectionID=22 That’s one of the first results from a Google search on "liberate Iraq 1917" — I’m sure there are other sites. Prediction, not mine but from the author of the above referenced site, Robert Fisk:         "Here I will make a guess: In the months and years         that follow the invasion of Iraq, the US, in its         arrogant assumption that it can create "democracy"         in the ashes of a Middle East dictatorship as well         as take its oil, will suffer the same as the British         in Palestine. This is not a simple matter of winning a war.  It’s far more complex.  And most of all, if the US is serious about establishing democracies in the Middle East, then it will face the irony of democracies in countries where the vast majority of the populations are *against* the US.  Their repressive governments are allies, but we will lose them if democracy takes over the Middle East. Do you think the Bush Administration is ready for that? And if not, if they respond by silencing anti-Americanism under calls of Iraq’s security, or Saddam plants or any other such defense, who in the Middle East will believe anything the Administration says in the future? What this President has never understood, and which Tom Daschle so exquisitely pointed out once the Iraq war started, is that kicking ass only goes so far, and then you are faced with good old fashioned, hard-work diplomacy.  And this President can’t speak diplomacy. ===end copied post "Stability" is not a word that has ever applied to the Middle East in it’s entire history — and I don’t just mean modern history, either. For the US to assume it can do what no-one else has managed to do, by fair means or foul, simply because it can kick butt bigger than anyone else is not only sheer hubris, but dangerous.  For the US most of all. Carol Flynt

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Path: sn-us!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups:    alt.politics.greens,alt.society.liberalism,alt.religion.christian.roman-cat    holic,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.christnet,sci.environment,alt.politics.libe    ralism Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Lines: 43 Xref: sn-us alt.politics.greens:232861 alt.society.liberalism:1157421    alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic:855312 alt.fan.rush-limbaugh:2278990    alt.christnet:752748 sci.environment:392771 alt.politics.liberalism:478875 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?   The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles.  And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable. Like Afghanistan? "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

He’s an idiot. No regard for ethic context in his arguments. Japan and germany did not have the Islamic vs. Israel/US tension behind them. He is a dittohead dolt. not worth a response.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right? The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles. How so, Tubby? What instability did you detect in the region after the first Gulf War? Prior to the Gulf War Iraq and Iran were at war for 8 years (‘80-’88), Lebanon was in a constant state of civil war, Kuwait was invaded and annexed by Iraq. What sort of instability occurred after the war? Looked at the mideast at any point over the past 12 years?

Yes, I have, Tubby. What instability are you referring to? Any wars? Coup d’etats? Civil wars? The Gulf War, Tubbaloosa, actually improved the stability of the region compared to what came before it. And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. Tubbster, Islamist fanaticism led to 9/11. The Gulf War led to restoring the sovereignty of Kuwait and the interim containment of Iraq. No doubt, but what made the fanatics target US?

What makes you target the U.S., Tubbster?

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right? The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles. How so, Tubby? What instability did you detect in the region after the first Gulf War? Prior to the Gulf War Iraq and Iran were at war for 8 years (‘80-’88), Lebanon was in a constant state of civil war, Kuwait was invaded and annexed by Iraq. What sort of instability occurred after the war? Looked at the mideast at any point over the past 12 years? Yes, I have, Tubby. What instability are you referring to? Any wars? Coup d’etats? Civil wars? The Gulf War, Tubbaloosa, actually improved the stability of the region compared to what came before it.

Poor Marty.  You really can’t think for yourself at all, can you? Let’s see:  there is the slight matter of Palestine and the settlements.  You may have heard about that.   It stirred up a fellow named Osama bin Ladin and thousands of others like him.  You may have noticed that all the attacks on American targets occured AFTER the Gulf War.   And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. Tubbster, Islamist fanaticism led to 9/11. The Gulf War led to restoring the sovereignty of Kuwait and the interim containment of Iraq. No doubt, but what made the fanatics target US? What makes you target the U.S., Tubbster?

Answer the question, if you can. "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

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<rolls eyes

Did you watch too much of the OJ trial? I guess it worked for him, huh? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    A New Kind of Nuke Weapon   In August, the Pentagon will hold discussions on a new  generation of tactical nuclear weapons, whose development  would threaten global non-proliferation.   The consequences  of such weapons could well be more destabilizing than  any military invasion.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right? The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles.

How so, Tubby? What instability did you detect in the region after the first Gulf War? Prior to the Gulf War Iraq and Iran were at war for 8 years (‘80-’88), Lebanon was in a constant state of civil war, Kuwait was invaded and annexed by Iraq. What sort of instability occurred after the war? And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11.

Tubbster, Islamist fanaticism led to 9/11. The Gulf War led to restoring the sovereignty of Kuwait and the interim containment of Iraq.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the  region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable.

So, what are we waiting for: REGIME CHANGE IN WASHINGTON DC! Let’s get rid of the brutal murderous dictators.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right? The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles. How so, Tubby? What instability did you detect in the region after the first Gulf War? Prior to the Gulf War Iraq and Iran were at war for 8 years (‘80-’88), Lebanon was in a constant state of civil war, Kuwait was invaded and annexed by Iraq. What sort of instability occurred after the war?

Looked at the mideast at any point over the past 12 years? And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. Tubbster, Islamist fanaticism led to 9/11. The Gulf War led to restoring the sovereignty of Kuwait and the interim containment of Iraq.

No doubt, but what made the fanatics target US? "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

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So when will the brutal murderous American dictator be cleaned out?

When are you leaving the country?

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable.

Hmm.  What follows is a post I made in alt.politics.bush, but it is also appropos to your post quoted above: ===begin copied post=== Well, let’s look back in history just a bit, shall we?         "[...] Our armies do not come into your cities         and lands as conquerors or enemies, but as         liberators. [...] People of Baghdad, remember         for 26 generations you have suffered under strange         tyrants who have ever endeavoured to set one Arab         house against another in order that they might         profit by your dissensions. [...] This policy is         abhorrent [...] for there can be neither peace nor         prosperity where there is enmity or misgovernment."                 Lt. Gen. Stanley Maude                 Baghdad, March 8, 1917 Thus began Britain’s last attempt to "take care of business over there" in Iraq in 1917.  They were sucessful with their military invasion and kicking out the then "tyrant."  The problems came when they tried to win the peace.  About a similar attempt in another Middle East country, Churcill was to say:         "At first, the steps were wide and shallow,         covered with a carpet, but in the end the         very stones crumbled under their feet." The country?  Palestine. Want more information? http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=3224&sectionID=22 That’s one of the first results from a Google search on "liberate Iraq 1917" — I’m sure there are other sites. Prediction, not mine but from the author of the above referenced site, Robert Fisk:         "Here I will make a guess: In the months and years         that follow the invasion of Iraq, the US, in its         arrogant assumption that it can create "democracy"         in the ashes of a Middle East dictatorship as well         as take its oil, will suffer the same as the British         in Palestine. This is not a simple matter of winning a war.  It’s far more complex.  And most of all, if the US is serious about establishing democracies in the Middle East, then it will face the irony of democracies in countries where the vast majority of the populations are *against* the US.  Their repressive governments are allies, but we will lose them if democracy takes over the Middle East. Do you think the Bush Administration is ready for that? And if not, if they respond by silencing anti-Americanism under calls of Iraq’s security, or Saddam plants or any other such defense, who in the Middle East will believe anything the Administration says in the future? What this President has never understood, and which Tom Daschle so exquisitely pointed out once the Iraq war started, is that kicking ass only goes so far, and then you are faced with good old fashioned, hard-work diplomacy.  And this President can’t speak diplomacy. ===end copied post "Stability" is not a word that has ever applied to the Middle East in it’s entire history — and I don’t just mean modern history, either. For the US to assume it can do what no-one else has managed to do, by fair means or foul, simply because it can kick butt bigger than anyone else is not only sheer hubris, but dangerous.  For the US most of all. Carol Flynt

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Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  

The Gulf War DID destabilize the region, chuckles.  And led to the terrorist attacks, including 9/11. The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable.

Like Afghanistan? "By my estimation, since the war started, the 24-hour cable news networks, in conjuction with their military analysts, have dropped more than 30 megatons of precision- guided manure on the American people."               — Aaron McGruder, "The Boondocks" Not dead, in jail, or a slave?  Thank a liberal. Pay your taxes so the rich don’t have to. http://www.zeppscommentaries.com

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –   Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable.

"They make a desert, and call it Peace." – Tacitus, circa 50 AD So when will the brutal murderous American dictator be cleaned out?

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  Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead

Yea I’m sure you’ll be right here 3 years from now to comment on it <rolls eyes AGAIN.  Just like defeating Hitler destabilized the region, right? Just like nuking Japan destabilized the region, right?  Just like the Gulf war destabilized the region, right?  The only thing destabilizing any region are the brutal murderous dictators, and when we clean them out, the region will be stable.

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Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes

I know you have a very short attention span, but lets see how things are 3 years down the road, shall we? <smiles at the simple minded dittohead – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    A New Kind of Nuke Weapon   In August, the Pentagon will hold discussions on a new  generation of tactical nuclear weapons, whose development  would threaten global non-proliferation.   The consequences  of such weapons could well be more destabilizing than  any military invasion.

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Yea because we’ve all seen how the Iraq war has destabilized the region… <rolls eyes – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –    A New Kind of Nuke Weapon   In August, the Pentagon will hold discussions on a new  generation of tactical nuclear weapons, whose development  would threaten global non-proliferation.   The consequences  of such weapons could well be more destabilizing than  any military invasion.

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**   Hawks have the upper hand but next few weeks **   will decide direction of Bush foreign policy – and **   with it the fate of many nations ** Julian Borger in Washington ** Thursday April 17, 2003 ** The Guardian ** The Blair government believes that in the next few weeks it will ** be clear how the Bush administration has been influenced by its ** military victory in Iraq, and what kind of superpower it wants the ** United States to be in the post-war world. ** The administration went into Iraq at war with itself over its role ** in the world, and there are abundant signs that conflict has not ** been settled with the fall of Saddam Hussein. Inter-agency ** squabbles have broken out, for example, over the shape of the ** Interim Iraqi Authority and the Pentagon’s role in promoting its ** own favourite, Ahmed Chalabi. ** British officials are watching vigilantly from the wings. Tony ** Blair hopes that Washington will emerge from the war, and the ** diplomatic mess that preceded it, readier to listen to its allies and ** the rest of the world and readier to consider multilateral solutions ** to global problems. ** But London acknowledges that it is far from clear Washington ** intends to be a kinder or softer superpower. In the short term, ** the speed of the victory and the relatively small US combat ** casualty figures have strengthened the hand of the ideological ** hawks, who see Iraq as only the first step in a rolling programme ** of regime change. ** Meanwhile, the UN debacle beforehand weakened Colin Powell, ** the secretary of state, who along with Mr Blair persuaded ** President Bush to travel the UN route.       …….snip http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,938344,00.html ** ** **   Multilateralism versus unilateralism ** In the wake of the collapse of UN security council talks on Iraq, ** there have been calls from neo-conservative circles for the UN ** and Nato to be jettisoned altogether as a vestige of the cold war. ** Instead the world’s sole superpower would find allies and ** "coalitions of the willing" when and where it needed them. ** Such radical solutions remain unlikely even at this moment of ** triumphalism. The White House is aware that the UN seal of ** authority remains vital when it comes to finding allies, as it did in    A New Kind of Nuke Weapon   In August, the Pentagon will hold discussions on a new  generation of tactical nuclear weapons, whose development  would threaten global non-proliferation.   The consequences  of such weapons could well be more destabilizing than  any military invasion.

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