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Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues ofsexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found manyother young Catholics fall into this category.Does anyone else see this? –Mark Sure, I think they are called Protestants now  :-)  Dawn

No way.  Mainline protestants are liturgically rather liberal….and evangelicals, well they lack a liturgy. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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There are many more (especially but not exclusively younger Catholics) for whom this is true.  Also, this seems to be characteristic of many high-church Anglo-Catholics. Peter Neenan.

Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues ofsexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found manyother young Catholics fall into this category.Does anyone else see this? –Mark

There are many more (especially but not exclusively younger Catholics) for whom this is true.  Also, this seems to be characteristic of many high-church Anglo-Catholics. Peter Neenan.

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conservative Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues

ofsexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found manyother young Catholics fall into this category.Does anyone else see this? –Mark

 Sure, I think they are called Protestants now  :-)  Dawn

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I think you are right.  For what that counts.  We are from two different generations but I can tell you that I agree, I can see myself being more stuck in my ways when I get older, but now I am young, and young means I am ready for change on so many levels…later on im sure i can calm down and settle a bit, but Ill see where that leads me Mark – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues of sexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found many other young Catholics fall into this category. Does anyone else see this? –Mark Mark: What I do notice is that the older I get (I am 46) the more conservative I have become.At your age (23 is it?) I felt much the way you do, but as I age I find my views becoming more conservative in nature especially in the sexual arena. Is it because I now have children of my own? A result of STDs? Trash TV like "Who is the daddy?", maybe. Or perhaps a spiritual awakening that I was not aware of or attuned to when I was younger. I think we are very cyclical people as a species. We discount the morals and values espoused by our parents and embrace them as we get older. Not much of a philosopher, and this is just my two cents here.

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 Well, I’m a young Catholic that is conservative/traditional Liturgically and sound doctrinally (Is that a word?)  :-) Can’t say I noticed what you said, but now that you mention it, I can think of a few who have fallen into despair regarding sexuality and have opted to choose not to accept teachings that it is sinful.  This is called a "cafeteria Catholic"  Picks and chooses only what he wants from the church. Very bad.  I would encourage these Catholics to find a good spiritual director and get these issues resolved. Appreciating the bueuty of Sacred Liturgy very, very good, but no conservative Catholic would DARE recieve the eucharist if he rejected any of the church’s teaching regarding sexuality.

I find the rigidity that the traditionalists pose to be an extreme and intolerant version of my religion.  I am not a Latin Catholic, I was raised by Maronite and Melkite parents, and have learned to appreciate the diversity that exists within the Church.  However, I feel that the liturgical innovations within the latin church are often sappy and ineffective at creating a sacred and solemn environment for worship. Traditionalists have made themselves look like fools as I have went to the most beautiful Masses in the Tridentine Rite only to be horrified by the homily condemning everything ranging from feminism, to religous liberty–these are the same people who wouldnt mind returning to only letting men vote… As per my beliefs, they are not cafeteria, and no, not bad.  You seem to remind me of Mother Angelica: you want quick immediate and clear answers in a response to our post modern reality.  I can recall once while watching EWTN a woman called in and asked what she could do to pray for her brother who was a homosexual and died of AIDS.  Mother Angelica told her there wasnt much she could do and then she gave a "thumbs down."  That is not my church. I am not old enough to remember the Church before the Vatican Council, but from what I have read and heard it seems we live in a very good time to be Catholic as we believe in religious liberty and the variety of other things condemned under "modernism" etc….I am glad we live in an era where things such as ‘worker priests’ are not subject to scrutiny.  Whatever passed for orthodoxy in the pre vatican ii church was a matter of rubrics and theological semantics, we live in a different society today and on most accounts thank GOD.  People are free to discuss and debate topics that were previously taboo, its no secret that the Vatican Council went hand in hand with the advent of the revolution ongoing in society in Europe and America. An era where people feared dissent and blindly followed magesterial teachings is not one to be remembered with fondness, as now we have catholics that are free to disagree with church teachings after weighing them with great thought and contemplation and can reach their own conscientious views. Liturgically I believe in reinstating sacred music at the sacrifice of the Mass: gregorian chant in latin, with occasional Mozart and the likes.  The funny thing is that the liturgical reformers felt that they were being GOOD catholics by removing all Latin from the Mass, when in reality the Council ALLOWED the use of the vernacular, but did not forbid Latin.  Wearing Polyester albs and processions with people carrying wheat and books is just tacky, I dont see the need to emulate mainline protestants in liturgical abberations. –Mark

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Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues of sexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found many other young Catholics fall into this category. Does anyone else see this? –Mark

Mark: What I do notice is that the older I get (I am 46) the more conservative I have become.At your age (23 is it?) I felt much the way you do, but as I age I find my views becoming more conservative in nature especially in the sexual arena. Is it because I now have children of my own? A result of STDs? Trash TV like "Who is the daddy?", maybe. Or perhaps a spiritual awakening that I was not aware of or attuned to when I was younger. I think we are very cyclical people as a species. We discount the morals and values espoused by our parents and embrace them as we get older. Not much of a philosopher, and this is just my two cents here.

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I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues of sexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found many other young Catholics fall into this category. Does anyone else see this?

  Well, I’m a young Catholic that is conservative/traditional Liturgically and sound doctrinally (Is that a word?)  :-) Can’t say I noticed what you said, but now that you mention it, I can think of a few who have fallen into despair regarding sexuality and have opted to choose not to accept teachings that it is sinful.  This is called a "cafeteria Catholic"  Picks and chooses only what he wants from the church. Very bad.  I would encourage these Catholics to find a good spiritual director and get these issues resolved. Appreciating the bueuty of Sacred Liturgy very, very good, but no conservative Catholic would DARE recieve the eucharist if he rejected any of the church’s teaching regarding sexuality. Thanks

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Hello, I am Roman Catholic and i fall into the category of traditional when it comes to matters of ceremony and liturgy however i am liberal when issues of sexual morality or contemporary moral situations arrive.  I have found many other young Catholics fall into this category. Does anyone else see this? –Mark

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