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A Czech and a Canadian. I’ve never doubted myself as an American. But, I was baptized Catholic. Nowhere in my family is religion.
Americans can also make mistakes. 
DAMN CANADIANS! Believe it or not…this is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995: US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision. CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course. CND reply: No. I say again, you divert your course! US Ship: This is the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea, we are a large warship of the US Navy. Divert your course now!! CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
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Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in 1991. Matthew DeLuca – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A Czech and a Canadian. I’ve never doubted myself as an American. But, I was baptized Catholic. Nowhere in my family is religion. Americans can also make mistakes. DAMN CANADIANS! Believe it or not…this is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995: US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision. CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course. CND reply: No. I say again, you divert your course! US Ship: This is the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea, we are a large warship of the US Navy. Divert your course now!! CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
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| | A Czech and a Canadian. I’ve never doubted myself as an American. | But, I was baptized Catholic. Nowhere in my family is religion. | | Americans can also make mistakes. | DAMN CANADIANS! | Believe it or not…this is the transcript of an actual radio | conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian | authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. | The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of | Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995: | | US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south | to avoid a collision. | | CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to | avoid a collision. | | US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your | course. | | CND reply: No. I say again, you divert your course! | | US Ship: This is the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea, we are a large warship | of the US Navy. Divert your course now!! | | CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call. Old joke with one serious problem…. USS Coral Sea (CVB-43) was scrapped in 1993. http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/43.htm
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Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in
1991. True, but then the incident could have taken place on Oct. 20, 1995 and reported Oct. 10, 1995. "I’ve never doubted myself as an American" LOL, I doubted myself as a Canadian more than once. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matthew DeLuca A Czech and a Canadian. I’ve never doubted myself as an American. But, I was baptized Catholic. Nowhere in my family is religion. Americans can also make mistakes. DAMN CANADIANS! Believe it or not…this is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995: US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision. CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course. CND reply: No. I say again, you divert your course! US Ship: This is the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea, we are a large warship of the US Navy. Divert your course now!! CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
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Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in 1991. True, but then the incident could have taken place on Oct. 20, 1995 and reported Oct. 10, 1995. "I’ve never doubted myself as an American" LOL, I doubted myself as a Canadian more than once.
I wonder about alot of things that Americans do. ie there’s a law against everything if you look long enough. There is a dollar cost on about everthing you could enjoy doing. The US is expected to be the world policeman when alot of people go nutz. Nonetheless. I know who I am in that regard. It’s a bumpy ride. I shouldn’t be surprised to see Canadians posting. My mother’s side would not allow her to marry my father w/out the condition that he be Catholic. That he/they raise their children as Catholic. They did until I was about 6. That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, over all the other religions out there? TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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Begin Quote That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, over all the other religions out there? End Quote Because we believe we are the one true Church founded by Christ. No other Church holds the unchanging truths about God. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joe M
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: : : Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in : 1991. : : True, but then the incident could have taken place on Oct. 20, 1995 and : reported Oct. 10, 1995. : : "I’ve never doubted myself as an American" LOL, I doubted myself as a : Canadian more than once. : : I wonder about alot of things that Americans do. ie there’s a law : against everything if you look long enough. There is a dollar cost on : about everthing you could enjoy doing. The US is expected to be the : world policeman when alot of people go nutz. If you do not like the ways Americans do things, then I suggest you steer clear of the U.S.A.
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: Begin Quote : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? : End Quote : : Because we believe we are the one true Church founded by Christ. Yet you remain in gross error. Your religion is a false religion. Your religion has a history of killing its enemies. Your religion is of this world, not God. If you religion was ‘founded’ by Christ; why is it ruled by satan, the god of this world and the RCC? : No other Church holds the unchanging truths about God. There is no truth within the RCC. The only thing ‘unchanging’ about the RCC is the manner in which it perverts the truth, to accommodate the lies it generates within.
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Your religion has a history of killing its enemies.
Sounds like it is the true religion then. Following well on the path set out in the bible. — Alan Ferris eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div. When the only colour is black – the only sound the broken bell THEN talk to me about why. Spike Milligan arc’s Gallery: http://www3.mistral.co.uk/xalan/rogue.htm ICQ UIN: 12811297
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: : Your religion has a history of killing its enemies. : : Sounds like it is the true religion then. Following well on the path : set out in the bible. There is no denying the facts. The RCC is true religion. Not Christian; just religious.
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Begin Quote Yet you remain in gross error. Your religion is a false religion. Your religion has a history of killing its enemies End Quote Yea sure, we have been over this many times. The leaders of the Catholic Church have been guilty of many sins, but at no time has Church doctrine supported murder. Yet your Baptist Church encourages personal interpretation of the Bible which is in direct conflict with what Peter told us in the Bible. 1:2 Peter 1 20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joe M
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Begin Quote If you do not like the ways Americans do things, then I suggest you steer clear of the U.S.A. End Quote I believe the US was founded on the principle of the people changing what is wrong with the government. That is a government by the people. I wonder why you don’t know that. Even I as a citizen of another county know that. — Dia ’s Muire duit Joe M
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : Begin Quote : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? : End Quote : : Because we believe we are the one true Church founded by Christ. Yet you remain in gross error. Your religion is a false religion. Your religion has a history of killing its enemies. Your religion is of this world, not God. If you religion was ‘founded’ by Christ; why is it ruled by satan, the god of this world and the RCC?
Your opinion, not supported by facts, Biblical or otherwise. My opinion is those who most often invoke Satan’s name in opposition to denominations other than their own (not limited to Cotholicism), are the most likely to be themselves influenced by Satan (intentionally or not). : No other Church holds the unchanging truths about God. There is no truth within the RCC. The only thing ‘unchanging’ about the RCC is the manner in which it perverts the truth, to accommodate the lies it generates within.
We’ve held the same teaching since 33 A.D. Your "church" cannot claim that. — Francis Lapeyre "Facilius est camelum per foramen acus transire quam divitem intrare in regnum Dei." (Mk 10:25) Spam deterrent: Remove the sound of the domestic feline in my address to reply via e-mail.
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Yet you remain in gross error. Your religion is a false religion. Your religion has a history of killing its enemies. Your religion is of this world, not God. If you religion was ‘founded’ by Christ; why is it ruled by satan, the god of this world and the RCC?
I see you mention history..how far back in history can you trace your church? I would rather belong to a church that has a 2000 + year history than yours any day. Stop spreading your deceit.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – : : : Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in : 1991. : : True, but then the incident could have taken place on Oct. 20, 1995 and : reported Oct. 10, 1995. : : "I’ve never doubted myself as an American" LOL, I doubted myself as a : Canadian more than once. : : I wonder about alot of things that Americans do. ie there’s a law : against everything if you look long enough. There is a dollar cost on : about everthing you could enjoy doing. The US is expected to be the : world policeman when alot of people go nutz. If you do not like the ways Americans do things, then I suggest you steer clear of the U.S.A.
Hey, endtym, you seem to be a first-class nazi or at least have the appropriate mindset for it. Since you already know how to define some of the most complex concepts known like god and christian, defining "American" should be a piece of cake for you. Please humor me.
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"Gilad Achirami" wrote … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TheNIGHTCRAWLER wrote … A Czech and a Canadian. I’ve never doubted myself as an American. But, I was baptized Catholic. Nowhere in my family is religion. Americans can also make mistakes. DAMN CANADIANS! Believe it or not…this is the transcript of an actual radio conversation between a US naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland in October 1995. The Radio conversation was released by the Chief of Naval Operations on Oct. 10, 1995: US Ship: Please divert your course 0.5 degrees to the south to avoid a collision. CND reply: Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the South to avoid a collision. US Ship: This is the Captain of a US Navy Ship. I say again, divert your course. CND reply: No. I say again, you divert your course! US Ship: This is the aircraft carrier USS Coral Sea, we are a large warship of the US Navy. Divert your course now!! CND reply: This is a lighthouse. Your call.
I gather that you, too, occasionally read the Sunday New York Times. They reprinted this about a year ago, IIRC. First I heard this tale it was the 1970s, and the incident was placed on the west coast. arjay
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"TheNIGHTCRAWLER" wrote … Matthew DeLuca wrote … Amusing, except for the fact that the Coral Sea was decommissioned in 1991. True, but then the incident could have taken place on Oct. 20, 1995 and reported Oct. 10, 1995. "I’ve never doubted myself as an American" LOL, I doubted myself as a Canadian more than once. I wonder about alot of things that Americans do. ie there’s a law against everything if you look long enough.
You are scarcely unique in that. There is a dollar cost on about everthing you could enjoy doing.
And US$, too! Must make you feel proud … The US is expected to be the world policeman when alot of people go nutz.
Remember a place called Versailles, and a Treaty signed there, and a fellow named Wilson who took the moral high ground and insisted that *he* (and his country, of course) had all the answers to international disputes? You might consider that he next time US involvement in international matters troubles you. Nonetheless. I know who I am in that regard. It’s a bumpy ride.
I think it’s called "life." I shouldn’t be surprised to see Canadians posting.
Nor should you. Remember that Usenet is (still) mostly distributed through the telephone lines … and, although Bell was actually a Scot, we Canadians claims him and his device as our own. Yes, I know. So do you. But we use the telephone much more (on an annual, per capita basis) than you do. So there! My mother’s side would not allow her to marry my father w/out the condition that he be Catholic. That he/they raise their children as Catholic. They did until I was about 6.
Then they ceased? Lucky you. That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, over all the other religions out there?
It was, essentially, a turf war. Still is. The deity is questionable, the turf is virtual, but the contributions of staunch parishioners are real. Even if not paid in US$. arjay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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: : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? : Why have tomato juice when you could have V-8? Karen
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My mother’s side would not allow her to marry my father w/out the condition that he be Catholic. That he/they raise their children as Catholic. They did until I was about 6. Then they ceased? Lucky you.
Yes, in a way. That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, over all the other religions out there? It was, essentially, a turf war. Still is. The deity is questionable, the turf is virtual, but the contributions of staunch parishioners are real. Even if not paid in US$.
Folks like yourself remind me of important things. Many churches are there just for the donations. But, that’s not what I’m looking for. I’m not about to post my card # here. I’m searching for an explanation and you’ve mentioned half of it, perhaps… But, I’m looking for the other half. TheNIGHTCRAWLER – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -arjay TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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: : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? : Why have tomato juice when you could have V-8?
Care to elaborate? TheNIGHTCRAWLER – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Karen
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"TheNIGHTCRAWLER" wrote … – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My mother’s side would not allow her to marry my father w/out the condition that he be Catholic. That he/they raise their children as Catholic. They did until I was about 6. Then they ceased? Lucky you. Yes, in a way. That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, over all the other religions out there? It was, essentially, a turf war. Still is. The deity is questionable, the turf is virtual, but the contributions of staunch parishioners are real. Even if not paid in US$. Folks like yourself remind me of important things. Many churches are there just for the donations. But, that’s not what I’m looking for. I’m not about to post my card # here. I’m searching for an explanation and you’ve mentioned half of it, perhaps… But, I’m looking for the other half.
Look elsewhere. arjay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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"TheNIGHTCRAWLER" wrote … : : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? Why have tomato juice when you could have V-8? Care to elaborate?
I think Ms Horn is suggesting that V-8 is superior to tomato juice. Or reminding you that V-8 has extra, subtle flavours. Or acknowledging the fact that the RCC has retained more elements and trappings from earlier, pre-Xian religions than have the Protestant branches — honourable mention to the C of E (substitute Episcopalian or Anglican depending on your neighbourhood). If you’re going to deal in magic you might as well dress it up in fancy clothing. arjay – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TheNIGHTCRAWLER
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In alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic TheNIGHTCRAWLER : : That’s what I want to know. Why was that so important? Why Catholic, : over all the other religions out there? : Why have tomato juice when you could have V-8? Care to elaborate?
"To a Roman Catholic, the Roman Catholic Church is simply the Christian religion; the gift of Christ to St. Peter and his successors of a right to answer at all times all questions about what IT really is…" -from Upon This Rock, by G.K. Chesterton. "IT" is the imparter of Truth – the Magisterium. — Ad Jesum per Mariam, Carlque "I never spared heretics and have always done my utmost so that the enemies of the Church should also be my enemies." St. Jerome, 420 AD. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TheNIGHTCRAWLER Karen
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: Begin Quote : Yet you remain in gross error. Your religion is a false religion. Your : religion has a history of killing its enemies : End Quote : : Yea sure, we have been over this many times. The leaders of the : Catholic Church have been guilty of many sins, but at no time has Church : doctrine supported murder. Which do you suppose to be the greater sin? 1 Your acceptance and flippant acknowledgement that your religion teaches it has the legal ‘right’ to kill and plunder, and has a wicked history to prove such. 2 Your rationalization that the heinous slaughters committed by the leaders of your religion wasn’t murder at all, to you, it was simply the RCC’s method of dealing with its enemies. This same rationale exists still today. : Yet your Baptist Church encourages personal interpretation of the Bible : which is in direct conflict with what Peter told us in the Bible. Show me your reference for the Baptist Church encourgaing ‘personal’ interpretations of the Bible. : 1:2 Peter 1 : 20 But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a : matter of one’s own interpretation, : 21 for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved : by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. : 2:1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will : also be false prophets among you, who will secretly introduce : destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing : swift destruction upon themselves. The above scripture was written to teach the Church the errors in false religions like the RCC, when you vainly try to interpret the Bible on your own, without the Holy Spirit of God. The Holy Spirit does not indwell the RCC, therefore all its misinterpretations of the Bible are personal; from the imaginations of lost men. The Priests within the RCC are the "false prophets" and "false teachers" Peter warned the Church about. The Scriptures you try to use against the Church bear out the guilt and sinfulness within you and your religion. It is you who is enslaved in a false Church, and don’t know it.
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: <snip : My opinion is those who most often invoke Satan’s name in opposition to : denominations other than their own (not limited to Cotholicism), are the : most likely to be themselves influenced by Satan (intentionally or not). Which facts led you to the conclusion that Satan’s name is synonymous with the RCC?
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