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I’ve spent more than a few hours thinking about becoming heavily involved in Buddhist studies, as well as becoming a protestant minister. BB On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 20:04:14 -0400, calm_hun…@webtv.net (Daniel Urtiz) wrote: >Kez, >I’ve never been a priest myself. In fact, I’ve never been much of >anything that is useful to society. But sometimes I do have an interest >in becoming a Roman Catholic priest. The fact that I am mentally ill >could hinder me with regard to gaining entry into the priesthood, but I >prefer to be optimistic about that. Never say never. >Daniel Urtiz >Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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I was not long ago attracted to a live as a monk. However I am nowadays again not much interested in religion etc Berty
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Kim, That epistle to John could be credited to Saint Paul. Sometimes the scholars themselves are not certain wh the author is. Pseudonyms in the Bible are not uncommon. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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thanks. "Daniel Urtiz" <calm_hun…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:15769-433E207C-448@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Kim, > That epistle to John could be credited to Saint Paul. Sometimes the > scholars themselves are not certain wh the author is. Pseudonyms in the > Bible are not uncommon. > Daniel Urtiz > Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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John says that if you can be without a wife do so, and spend your life worshipping god.. but if you cannot be without a woman, get married … something to that effect. I dont know what bible Catholics read. I just know their beliefs – from what little I know – are very different than mine. Kim "Daniel Urtiz" <calm_hun…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22200-433DB0B5-506@storefull-3354.bay.webtv.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Spheric, > I prefer that the tradition of the Roman Catholic Church be preserved. I > don’t believe priests should be allowed to marry nor do I believe women > should be ordained as priests. If those interested in becoming priests > have inclinations to the contrary, then perhaps they should become > Protestant ministers, instead of making things hard for those who prefer > keeping with tradition. > Daniel Urtiz > Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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Spheric, I prefer that the tradition of the Roman Catholic Church be preserved. I don’t believe priests should be allowed to marry nor do I believe women should be ordained as priests. If those interested in becoming priests have inclinations to the contrary, then perhaps they should become Protestant ministers, instead of making things hard for those who prefer keeping with tradition. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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When I was in the military, I was told that more than 50% of people separating from the military would go on to factory work, not use the GI Bill, and pretty much stay in the factory or in low paying jobs. Buther Boy On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 21:45:04 +0100 (BST), "HA SPHERIC ZION" – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -<z…@harsh.epic.com> wrote: >kez wrote: >> I will have to rethink how I think about priests. I thought they rode >> bicycles and listened to The Archers on Radio 4 and had tea and biscuits >> with little old ladies in the afternoon. >> Also I will have to rethink retired soldiers. I thought they all became >> prison officers or probation or police or psych nurse assistants, led cub >> scout groups, that kind of thing >> THE WORLD IS STRANGE >> — kez >When I was in America, it was still fashionable for one to become a >priest. At least no one gave you sideways glances when you announced >you were going to seminary. Attitudes have certainly changed. The >priesthood is no longer as attractive. Priests are aging and there are >fewer youth in the pipeline. The Catholic Church’s mishandling >paedophile priests has certainly left a black mark. I think that young >men considering priesthood these days must contend with perceptions that >they are predatory homosexuals. >I personally believe that the Church is due for reform. Vows of >celibacy are outdated. Priests should be allowed to marry. Women >should be ordained. I will not see these reforms in my lifetime. >I renounced priesthood for a woman. The love I felt could have never >been sublimated. No priest should be asked such. >Former military personnel go on to be millwrights, shop stewards, >clergy, retailers, school teachers, physicians, playwrights, >footballerss, and all kinds of things. >We are bonded by our humanity. You are my brother, for better or for >worse. I am happy to call you my brother, kez.
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I am trying to imagine you as a priest. Was that before or after you were a soldier? C of E congregations are mostly little old ladies. I think they would be shocked by you raping a murdering girls in ‘Nam! — kez
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Kez, I’ve never been a priest myself. In fact, I’ve never been much of anything that is useful to society. But sometimes I do have an interest in becoming a Roman Catholic priest. The fact that I am mentally ill could hinder me with regard to gaining entry into the priesthood, but I prefer to be optimistic about that. Never say never. Daniel Urtiz Constantine Catholics, unite against the police.
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"HA SPHERIC ZION" <z…@harsh.epic.com> wrote in message news:Y2l0.8251120895dd7a3e5d4933ece8d4f813@1128063562.nulluser.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> kez wrote: >> I am trying to imagine you as a priest. Was that before or after you > were a >> soldier? C of E congregations are mostly little old ladies. I think they >> would be shocked by you raping a murdering girls in ‘Nam! >> — kez > I was in Nam long before I became a priest. It was Nam and LSD that led > me to G-d and the priesthood. Catholic. I had gone to college, studied > philosophy, lived on the streets at the time, had the GI Bill (American > education program for vets), learned so much it was incredible. War > is terrible, but because of the horrors of war, I found LSD. Through > LSD, I found G-d. I spent some times in isolation at monasteries and > discovered that the monastic life was not for me, but the Jesuitical > approach appealed to me. I joined the seminary and became a priest. > Let be very clear about this: Regarding rape. To the victors go the > spoils. A nineteen year old god will stick his cock in anything. And > there’s no such thing as murder in wartime. To suggest otherwise is > lunacy. For we become gods through acts of creation and destruction. > We create life and we are gods. We destroy life and we are gods. > I am humble enough to understand that one day my body will fall away and > my spirit will rejoin the collective. And on that day, I can look G-d > square in the eye and say "You made me. I am just like you. Now let’s > get to work." > — > HA SPHERIC ZION
I will have to rethink how I think about priests. I thought they rode bicycles and listened to The Archers on Radio 4 and had tea and biscuits with little old ladies in the afternoon. Also I will have to rethink retired soldiers. I thought they all became prison officers or probation or police or psych nurse assistants, led cub scout groups, that kind of thing THE WORLD IS STRANGE — kez
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