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A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS.
Perhaps you should make a list of goddamned pests posting lies about you … ? — Dan Baldwin, unethical *by design* I am a minion of Satan, but my powers are mainly administrative. Hail the un-alive
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It seems the angry people who gravitate to this newsgroup have sharper tongues than they do brains! Maybe they should rename Precision
Oh, stop whining. BTW, I appreciate you including my nym in alt.religion.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1! My reputation was taking a beating, what with some private emails claiming I was a bit too friendly with Perez. Thanks again, whiner!
Good Grief! Precision is a real mind-numbing whiner and complainer. This has the be the most miserable, unhappy, stiff-necked, stressed-out, mal-adapted Jehovah’s Witness I’ve ever come across here on Usenet. Surely he should join other NGs such as: alt.complain.constantly rec.whining rec.suffering.and.misery talk.problems.with.others talk.fatal-depression — Mrs. PLONK… (JWs) should be more careful in the way they present themselves. Some people here might start pulling out all those JW quotes about "knowing the tree by its fruit" (credit to Campbell)
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS.
And now, so will the forger. 
— Pastor Dave Raymond "Were they ashamed when they made an abomination? They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall. At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down, says Jehovah." – Jeremiah 6:15 "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" – Ephesians 6:17 / o{}xxxxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Lord, help me get up when I fall. I can fall by myself. —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
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monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to type out the following: PreConFusion took lessons from Bob (of soc.men). From the caricature on your web page you appear to be a Chink. Are you? all in all were just another chink in the wall arf meow arf
A chink in the chain of life. — Nemesis ICQ #4610826 http://www.tehawk.com http://home.earthlink.net/~tehawk
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. It’s the sign of a small mind. I have been impersonated also.
That would be small. Joe
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. Sitel, you should check your facts before calling people names or it will be *you* who turns out to be the epithet you have used to describe Precision! here is the fraud: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18a7970117f53…
9b7052f4c53236b%40remailer.frell.eu.org – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – now, what were you saying??? dummy??? Thank you for pointing out the glaring reality. That one was particularly pernicious; it was posted to the Jehovah’s Witness and Mormon newsgroups in reply to my proposal topic started in alt.config in regards a proposal for a new newsgroup for fellowship between Jehovah’s Witnesses and their friends outside the faith. (I now regretfully agree with your earlier analysis that such a newsgroup would surely fail, due to these cyber-terrorists who enjoy "frogering" innocent people.) It seems the angry people who gravitate to this newsgroup have sharper tongues than they do brains! Maybe they should rename alt.religion.jehovahs-witn to alt.religion.apostasy.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1 or alt.religion.apostate-anger-management or a similarly more appropriate newsgroup name! : Precision
Oh, stop whining. BTW, I appreciate you including my nym in alt.religion.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1! My reputation was taking a beating, what with some private emails claiming I was a bit too friendly with Perez. Thanks again, whiner!
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS. Further statements: (1) Only authenticated posts from Usenet.com as verified by MX records are my own postings. PLEASE CHECK THE HEADERS WHEN IN DOUBT. (Use MX record verification for further authentication.) (2) I do not post from anonymous remailers and request to legitimate participants in these newsgroups to *please* disregard any posts where the headers do not show the post originating from my newsgroup account at Usenet.com. (3) Disregard as forged postings bearing my email address that appear in newsgroups OTHER THAN Christian and Jehovah’s Witnesses newsgroups (with occasional cross-postings to Creation, Mormon and Watchtower newsgroups in the alt.religion category). I will occasionally leave the followup-to newsgroups in the reply if I consider this relevant to the discussion; otherwise I will often strip-out the followup-to newsgroups before replying. (4) Postings from anonymous remailers using my email address (5) I request anyone who is aware of forgeries under my email address in any (including full headers). (6) My approach to writing posts is to respectfully present information. Posts containing my email address containing the following content should be disregarded as forged: – profanity – attacks against Jehovah’s Witnesses or any other religion – racist content (7) A lot of newsgroup abusers are in my kill file, so I often do not see their posts and cannot reply to slander. (8) If I decide to stop participating in the newsgroups for a length of time or discontinue participation permanently, I will not be around to challenge forged posts! That is why I’m writing this post so that it becomes a permanent record in Usenet archives of the situation. I request that anyone who is aware of faked postings under anonymous remailers using my email address *please* alert me via email. I promise to keep your email in strictest confidence to avoid someone retaliating against you. I also want to mention that anyone who knows email technology (which newsgroup technology is built on) will know that a post is likely forged. That is why those of you who are NOT familiar with this technology should take every post you read with a grain of salt because it could be forged! For example, some sad individual without a life is sitting behind a keyboard having a field day with an unpopular poster "Pastor Dave" and creating mayhem by forging his posts, by exaggerating his dogmatic style to "flame" the newsgroup. Obviously the real poster cannot followup every single faked post with a comment "I did not write this." IT IS UP TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE THEIR WRITING STYLE AND SPOT FORGERIES. Otherwise, the whole free speech thing we are so privileged to enjoy, will fall apart. THE HEADERS IN THIS MESSAGE CAN SERVE AS A BENCHMARK FOR COMPARING OTHER POSTS IN QUESTION BEARING MY EMAIL ADDRESS. Thank you for listening and helping during these depressing times! It would be easier to just stop posting altogether but wouldn’t that essentially mean these "cyber-terrorists" win? That is why it is difficult to throw in the towel. If every legitimate human on Usenet would work together, perhaps we can avoid having to stop posting. Regards, Precision The following fraudulently forged email is a forged posting and only one of many permutations. THE REAL HEADER IS HIDDEN IN POSTS. Select "View Properties," "View Headers," or other similar command in your newsreader to see the hidden headers of the post and obtain the MX record for authentication: Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Followup-To: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Lines: 73 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Authenticated-User: $$lqjxr9nnj X-Comments: This message was posted through But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible: Psalm 137:9 "Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Infanticide approved by god) so you hate the Almighty God of the Bible so much you would deny him the right to destroy the wicked and their progeny? buh-bye <PLONK Yes, Jesus spoke of evil people like we see posting the above propaganda against God… "(34) Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. (35) The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things. (36) I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; (37) for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.. . ." (Matthew 12:34- 37) I just keep having to remind myself every day that these are the kind of people that committed the Oklahoma bombing and assisted the terrorists in bombing the World Trade Center… it takes a really sick, ugly and vile people to revile God (and that only describes their inner parts). Visiting this forum is getting tougher every day… I would have never believed the apostate situation could have deteriorated to this unbelievable level. Precision — BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only here to slander and lie about Jehovah’s Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative organization… as a matter of fact, some are admitted atheists (Matthew 12:30; John 8:44-47) I have all of their posts filtered out because they can not hold an intelligent conversation and often resort to lies. They claim to be quoting from Watch Tower literature but these are *NOT* exact quotes, they change words and quote things out of context. I don’t respond to spurious fabrications. Hence if you see that I am not answering someone, it is because their previous attempts at deception have earned them a place in the ‘block sender’ file. They exist here only to destroy (1 Corinthians 10:6-11) They speak not as Christians (Ephesians 4:31-32) I do not need to name them for by their fruits you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16-20) One has to wonder, why was a newsgroup set up to attack this *one* organization? Matthew 5:10-12
My my, you ARE in a pickle aren’t you. I think that the best thing for you to do is change screen names and then learn how to play with others better. — Gordie ‘Mankind can accept the Scriptures on the basis that they are inspired by God, but this does not eliminate the facts that the authors of these sacred books were Roman Catholic and that ONLY the Catholic Church has the ability to determine which books were sacred and which were not.’ — http://www.catholicapologetics.net/apolo_14.htm
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. Sitel, you should check your facts before calling people names or it will be *you* who turns out to be the epithet you have used to describe Precision! here is the fraud: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18a7970117f53… 9b7052f4c53236b%40remailer.frell.eu.org now, what were you saying??? dummy??? Thank you for pointing out the glaring reality. That one was particularly pernicious; it was posted to the Jehovah’s Witness and Mormon newsgroups in reply to my proposal topic started in alt.config in regards a proposal for a new newsgroup for fellowship between Jehovah’s Witnesses and their friends outside the faith. (I now regretfully agree with your earlier analysis that such a newsgroup would surely fail, due to these cyber-terrorists who enjoy "frogering" innocent people.) It seems the angry people who gravitate to this newsgroup have sharper tongues than they do brains! Maybe they should rename alt.religion.jehovahs-witn to alt.religion.apostasy.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1 or alt.religion.apostate-anger-management or a similarly more appropriate newsgroup name! : Precision Oh, stop whining. BTW, I appreciate you including my nym in alt.religion.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1! My reputation was taking a beating, what with some private emails claiming I was a bit too friendly with
Perez. <shock well, that’s what ya get for being civil Sitel… all this time you shoulda been a flaming kook like the others… oh well, live and learn ;^)
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Thank you for pointing out the glaring reality. That one was particularly pernicious; it was posted to the Jehovah’s Witness and Mormon newsgroups in reply to my proposal topic started in alt.config in regards a proposal for a new newsgroup for fellowship between Jehovah’s Witnesses and their friends outside the faith.
** Outside the FAITH? Has there been new light from mother Watchtower? We weren’t allowed to have WORLDLY friends outside the faith. The WTS isolates it’s workers/followers from normal society. (I now regretfully agree with your earlier analysis that such a newsgroup would surely fail, due to these cyber-terrorists who enjoy "frogering" innocent people.)
** What was to forge? The person simply re-posted YOUR post word for word? It’s been done to others as well. It seems the angry people who gravitate to this newsgroup have sharper tongues than they do brains!
** For exposing an evil cult that destroys marriages and families – that causes the DEATH of people? You should thank your WTS God for those of us who expose such a wicked, evil cult. 
Now stop your whining and complaining. It’s getting old and stale. — PLONK in Watchtowerland…. "Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061 "While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?* http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html So many sheep, so much fleecing.
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That’s why even when I was using the temp AOL account I still included my name. But if you noticed I made the IP address pretty obvious that it was me I think. William
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – If you want my honest opinion I think precision and Perez is the same person, just two different names. He is doing it to look more creditable on the NG. William That has crossed my mind as well. Some people post from work, then from home under different names/IPs. Or they have different news servers they use. We had one doing that on a health NG some time ago. We also had a JW do it here (Sherwood/Skippy). Sometimes a JW will post something really outrageous that another JW takes them to task for and they scream POSTING FRAUD! IMPOSTORS! FORGERIES! Then, if possible they get their posts NUKED. But they can’t NUKE them all because some services don’t allow it, or do it, I was told. Some also ignore the X-No-Archive: Yes command. I remember a few years ago when Jabriol was claiming some of his really bad posts were forgeries. They were traced right to the ISP he was using at the time!!! The JWs call this kind of dishonesty and lying "theocratic warfare." Mrs. PLONK…. — "Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:" [Matt 18:20] No Watchtower Society needed. Jabriol is a classic example of what a cult like the WTS does to the human mind and personality. Jabriol is truly the fruit of the Watchtower Society tree. And the WTS tells us to KNOW the TREE by it’s fruit. Do not let these people in when they come knocking….. they’re truly wolves in sheep’s clothing. — http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org./2004.htm
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If you want my honest opinion I think precision and Perez is the same person, just two different names. He is doing it to look more creditable on the NG. William
That has crossed my mind as well. Some people post from work, then from home under different names/IPs. Or they have different news servers they use. We had one doing that on a health NG some time ago. We also had a JW do it here (Sherwood/Skippy). Sometimes a JW will post something really outrageous that another JW takes them to task for and they scream POSTING FRAUD! IMPOSTORS! FORGERIES! Then, if possible they get their posts NUKED. But they can’t NUKE them all because some services don’t allow it, or do it, I was told. Some also ignore the X-No-Archive: Yes command. I remember a few years ago when Jabriol was claiming some of his really bad posts were forgeries. They were traced right to the ISP he was using at the time!!! The JWs call this kind of dishonesty and lying "theocratic warfare." Mrs. PLONK…. — "Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:" [Matt 18:20] No Watchtower Society needed. Jabriol is a classic example of what a cult like the WTS does to the human mind and personality. Jabriol is truly the fruit of the Watchtower Society tree. And the WTS tells us to KNOW the TREE by it’s fruit. Do not let these people in when they come knocking….. they’re truly wolves in sheep’s clothing. — http://www.carm.org/witnesses.htm http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org./2004.htm
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If you want my honest opinion I think precision and Perez is the same person, just two different names. He is doing it to look more creditable on the NG.
It took you that long to identify Sherwood?
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While skydiving off of the Empire State Building on A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers.
It’s the sign of a small mind. I have been impersonated also. — Pastor Dave Raymond "Were they ashamed when they made an abomination? They were not at all ashamed, nor did they know to blush. So they shall fall among those who fall. At the time I visit them, they shall be cast down, says Jehovah." – Jeremiah 6:15 "And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:" – Ephesians 6:17 / o{}xxxxx[]:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "Preach the gospel at all times. Use words if necessary." —–= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =—– http://www.newsfeeds.com – The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! —–== Over 100,000 Newsgroups – 19 Different Servers! =—–
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. Sitel, you should check your facts before calling people names or it will be *you* who turns out to be the epithet you have used to describe Precision! here is the fraud:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18a7970117f53… now, what were you saying??? dummy???
Thank you for pointing out the glaring reality. That one was particularly pernicious; it was posted to the Jehovah’s Witness and Mormon newsgroups in reply to my proposal topic started in alt.config in regards a proposal for a new newsgroup for fellowship between Jehovah’s Witnesses and their friends outside the faith. (I now regretfully agree with your earlier analysis that such a newsgroup would surely fail, due to these cyber-terrorists who enjoy "frogering" innocent people.) It seems the angry people who gravitate to this newsgroup have sharper tongues than they do brains! Maybe they should rename alt.religion.jehovahs-witn to alt.religion.apostasy.carol-dizz-siteldawgnumber1 or alt.religion.apostate-anger-management or a similarly more appropriate newsgroup name! : Precision
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If you want my honest opinion I think precision and Perez is the same person, just two different names. He is doing it to look more creditable on the NG. William
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? ## I think he is that dumb. He came to the NG and insulted and alienated everyone and now he’s whining (again) that someone is re-posting his posts here. Like anyone CARES! They’re merely spoofing his posts. Then he insults the person doing it by claiming they have learning disabilities and mental problems, instead of trying to reason with them. Precision hasn’t yet learned you get more bees with honey than you do with vinegar (and arrogance.) I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. ## He probably doesn’t know how…. and the re-posts don’t seem to be changed in any way. Mrs. PLONK….. "Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:" [Matt 18:20] No Watchtower Society needed.
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(Siteldawgnumber1) with the help of a thousand monkeys banging on keyboards, was finally able to type out the following: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS. Further statements: (1) Only authenticated posts from Usenet.com as verified by MX records are my own postings. PLEASE CHECK THE HEADERS WHEN IN DOUBT. (Use MX record verification for further authentication.) (2) I do not post from anonymous remailers and request to legitimate participants in these newsgroups to *please* disregard any posts where the headers do not show the post originating from my newsgroup account at Usenet.com. (3) Disregard as forged postings bearing my email address that appear in newsgroups OTHER THAN Christian and Jehovah’s Witnesses newsgroups (with occasional cross-postings to Creation, Mormon and Watchtower newsgroups in the alt.religion category). I will occasionally leave the followup-to newsgroups in the reply if I consider this relevant to the discussion; otherwise I will often strip-out the followup-to newsgroups before replying. (4) Postings from anonymous remailers using my email address (5) I request anyone who is aware of forgeries under my email address in any (including full headers). (6) My approach to writing posts is to respectfully present information. Posts containing my email address containing the following content should be disregarded as forged: – profanity – attacks against Jehovah’s Witnesses or any other religion – racist content (7) A lot of newsgroup abusers are in my kill file, so I often do not see their posts and cannot reply to slander. (8) If I decide to stop participating in the newsgroups for a length of time or discontinue participation permanently, I will not be around to challenge forged posts! That is why I’m writing this post so that it becomes a permanent record in Usenet archives of the situation. I request that anyone who is aware of faked postings under anonymous remailers using my email address *please* alert me via email. I promise to keep your email in strictest confidence to avoid someone retaliating against you. I also want to mention that anyone who knows email technology (which newsgroup technology is built on) will know that a post is likely forged. That is why those of you who are NOT familiar with this technology should take every post you read with a grain of salt because it could be forged! For example, some sad individual without a life is sitting behind a keyboard having a field day with an unpopular poster "Pastor Dave" and creating mayhem by forging his posts, by exaggerating his dogmatic style to "flame" the newsgroup. Obviously the real poster cannot followup every single faked post with a comment "I did not write this." IT IS UP TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE THEIR WRITING STYLE AND SPOT FORGERIES. Otherwise, the whole free speech thing we are so privileged to enjoy, will fall apart. THE HEADERS IN THIS MESSAGE CAN SERVE AS A BENCHMARK FOR COMPARING OTHER POSTS IN QUESTION BEARING MY EMAIL ADDRESS. Thank you for listening and helping during these depressing times! It would be easier to just stop posting altogether but wouldn’t that essentially mean these "cyber-terrorists" win? That is why it is difficult to throw in the towel. If every legitimate human on Usenet would work together, perhaps we can avoid having to stop posting. Regards, Precision The following fraudulently forged email is a forged posting and only one of many permutations. THE REAL HEADER IS HIDDEN IN POSTS. Select "View Properties," "View Headers," or other similar command in your newsreader to see the hidden headers of the post and obtain the MX record for authentication: Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Followup-To: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Lines: 73 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Authenticated-User: $$lqjxr9nnj X-Comments: This message was posted through But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible: Psalm 137:9 "Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Infanticide approved by god) so you hate the Almighty God of the Bible so much you would deny him the right to destroy the wicked and their progeny? buh-bye <PLONK Yes, Jesus spoke of evil people like we see posting the above propaganda against God… "(34) Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. (35) The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things. (36) I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; (37) for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.. . ." (Matthew 12:34- 37) I just keep having to remind myself every day that these are the kind of people that committed the Oklahoma bombing and assisted the terrorists in bombing the World Trade Center… it takes a really sick, ugly and vile people to revile God (and that only describes their inner parts). Visiting this forum is getting tougher every day… I would have never believed the apostate situation could have deteriorated to this unbelievable level. Precision — BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only here to slander and lie about Jehovah’s Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative organization… as a matter of fact, some are admitted atheists (Matthew 12:30; John 8:44-47) I have all of their posts filtered out because they can not hold an intelligent conversation and often resort to lies. They claim to be quoting from Watch Tower literature but these are *NOT* exact quotes, they change words and quote things out of context. I don’t respond to spurious fabrications. Hence if you see that I am not answering someone, it is because their previous attempts at deception have earned them a place in the ‘block sender’ file. They exist here only to destroy (1 Corinthians 10:6-11) They speak not as Christians (Ephesians 4:31-32) I do not need to name them for by their fruits you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16-20) One has to wonder, why was a newsgroup set up to attack this *one* organization? Matthew 5:10-12 LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. Your deliciously idiotic post is below. Again I apologize for top posting (poasting). Thank you, and goodnight.
PreConFusion took lessons from Bob (of soc.men). — Nemesis ICQ #4610826 http://www.tehawk.com http://home.earthlink.net/~tehawk
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy.
Sitel, you should check your facts before calling people names or it will be *you* who turns out to be the epithet you have used to describe Precision! here is the fraud: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=18a7970117f53… now, what were you saying??? dummy???
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LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb?
## I think he is that dumb. He came to the NG and insulted and alienated everyone and now he’s whining (again) that someone is re-posting his posts here. Like anyone CARES! They’re merely spoofing his posts. Then he insults the person doing it by claiming they have learning disabilities and mental problems, instead of trying to reason with them. Precision hasn’t yet learned you get more bees with honey than you do with vinegar (and arrogance.) I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy.
## He probably doesn’t know how…. and the re-posts don’t seem to be changed in any way. Mrs. PLONK….. "Where two or three are gathered together in MY name, I am in their midst:" [Matt 18:20] No Watchtower Society needed.
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A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities
$$ Which learning disabilities are so obvious to you? Please list them in order of seriousness. or psychological problems have posted they mistake forged posts from
$$ Huh? And you claim others have learning disabilities. and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers.
$$ So someone is re-posting YOUR posts? They re-post mine as well – so? How do you plan to stop them? I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail.
$$ If they’re C&P COPIES of your posts what’s to clarify? Who would care besides you? I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS.
## SO HAVE EVERYONE ELSE’S. If all they are are carbon copies I wouldn’t get too upset over it. Further statements: (1) Only authenticated posts from Usenet.com as verified by MX records are my own postings. PLEASE CHECK THE HEADERS WHEN IN DOUBT. (Use MX record verification for further authentication.)
— Mrs. PLONK in Watchtowerland…. Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1061 "While malicious lying is definitely condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a person is under obligation to divulge truthful information to people who are not entitled to it." *WHO DECIDES?* http://www.intrex.net/talley/list7_13.html So many sheep, so much fleecing.
Response:
LOL, Precision!!!! Hate to top post but this is too funny! Are you really that dumb,or are you just pretending to be dumb? I have yet to see a forged post in your name. PreConFusion is obviously making fun of you. The articles your tormentor has posted have all been articles you actually wrote! (Well, at least the ones I’ve read in arjw) Check the message ID’s, dummy. Your deliciously idiotic post is below. Again I apologize for top posting (poasting). Thank you, and goodnight. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS. Further statements: (1) Only authenticated posts from Usenet.com as verified by MX records are my own postings. PLEASE CHECK THE HEADERS WHEN IN DOUBT. (Use MX record verification for further authentication.) (2) I do not post from anonymous remailers and request to legitimate participants in these newsgroups to *please* disregard any posts where the headers do not show the post originating from my newsgroup account at Usenet.com. (3) Disregard as forged postings bearing my email address that appear in newsgroups OTHER THAN Christian and Jehovah’s Witnesses newsgroups (with occasional cross-postings to Creation, Mormon and Watchtower newsgroups in the alt.religion category). I will occasionally leave the followup-to newsgroups in the reply if I consider this relevant to the discussion; otherwise I will often strip-out the followup-to newsgroups before replying. (4) Postings from anonymous remailers using my email address (5) I request anyone who is aware of forgeries under my email address in any (including full headers). (6) My approach to writing posts is to respectfully present information. Posts containing my email address containing the following content should be disregarded as forged: – profanity – attacks against Jehovah’s Witnesses or any other religion – racist content (7) A lot of newsgroup abusers are in my kill file, so I often do not see their posts and cannot reply to slander. (8) If I decide to stop participating in the newsgroups for a length of time or discontinue participation permanently, I will not be around to challenge forged posts! That is why I’m writing this post so that it becomes a permanent record in Usenet archives of the situation. I request that anyone who is aware of faked postings under anonymous remailers using my email address *please* alert me via email. I promise to keep your email in strictest confidence to avoid someone retaliating against you. I also want to mention that anyone who knows email technology (which newsgroup technology is built on) will know that a post is likely forged. That is why those of you who are NOT familiar with this technology should take every post you read with a grain of salt because it could be forged! For example, some sad individual without a life is sitting behind a keyboard having a field day with an unpopular poster "Pastor Dave" and creating mayhem by forging his posts, by exaggerating his dogmatic style to "flame" the newsgroup. Obviously the real poster cannot followup every single faked post with a comment "I did not write this." IT IS UP TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE THEIR WRITING STYLE AND SPOT FORGERIES. Otherwise, the whole free speech thing we are so privileged to enjoy, will fall apart. THE HEADERS IN THIS MESSAGE CAN SERVE AS A BENCHMARK FOR COMPARING OTHER POSTS IN QUESTION BEARING MY EMAIL ADDRESS. Thank you for listening and helping during these depressing times! It would be easier to just stop posting altogether but wouldn’t that essentially mean these "cyber-terrorists" win? That is why it is difficult to throw in the towel. If every legitimate human on Usenet would work together, perhaps we can avoid having to stop posting. Regards, Precision The following fraudulently forged email is a forged posting and only one of many permutations. THE REAL HEADER IS HIDDEN IN POSTS. Select "View Properties," "View Headers," or other similar command in your newsreader to see the hidden headers of the post and obtain the MX record for authentication: Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Followup-To: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Lines: 73 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Authenticated-User: $$lqjxr9nnj X-Comments: This message was posted through But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible: Psalm 137:9 "Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Infanticide approved by god) so you hate the Almighty God of the Bible so much you would deny him the right to destroy the wicked and their progeny? buh-bye <PLONK Yes, Jesus spoke of evil people like we see posting the above propaganda against God… "(34) Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. (35) The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things. (36) I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; (37) for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.. . ." (Matthew 12:34- 37) I just keep having to remind myself every day that these are the kind of people that committed the Oklahoma bombing and assisted the terrorists in bombing the World Trade Center… it takes a really sick, ugly and vile people to revile God (and that only describes their inner parts). Visiting this forum is getting tougher every day… I would have never believed the apostate situation could have deteriorated to this unbelievable level. Precision — BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only here to slander and lie about Jehovah’s Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative organization… as a matter of fact, some are admitted atheists (Matthew 12:30; John 8:44-47) I have all of their posts filtered out because they can not hold an intelligent conversation and often resort to lies. They claim to be quoting from Watch Tower literature but these are *NOT* exact quotes, they change words and quote things out of context. I don’t respond to spurious fabrications. Hence if you see that I am not answering someone, it is because their previous attempts at deception have earned them a place in the ‘block sender’ file. They exist here only to destroy (1 Corinthians 10:6-11) They speak not as Christians (Ephesians 4:31-32) I do not need to name them for by their fruits you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16-20) One has to wonder, why was a newsgroup set up to attack this *one* organization? Matthew 5:10-12
Response:
A few individuals with obvious learning disabilities or psychological and other variants sent from an anonymous remailer, with my posts that I actually posted sent from my newsgroup account on the Usenet.com’s news servers. I want to occasionally clarify these many posts are FORGERIES in replies to leave an audit trail. I will add for future Google search engine searches, the following statement: POSTS USING MY EMAIL ADDRESS HAVE BEEN FORGED UNDER ANONYMOUS REMAILERS. Further statements: (1) Only authenticated posts from Usenet.com as verified by MX records are my own postings. PLEASE CHECK THE HEADERS WHEN IN DOUBT. (Use MX record verification for further authentication.) (2) I do not post from anonymous remailers and request to legitimate participants in these newsgroups to *please* disregard any posts where the headers do not show the post originating from my newsgroup account at Usenet.com. (3) Disregard as forged postings bearing my email address that appear in newsgroups OTHER THAN Christian and Jehovah’s Witnesses newsgroups (with occasional cross-postings to Creation, Mormon and Watchtower newsgroups in the alt.religion category). I will occasionally leave the followup-to newsgroups in the reply if I consider this relevant to the discussion; otherwise I will often strip-out the followup-to newsgroups before replying. (4) Postings from anonymous remailers using my email address (5) I request anyone who is aware of forgeries under my email address in any (including full headers). (6) My approach to writing posts is to respectfully present information. Posts containing my email address containing the following content should be disregarded as forged: – profanity – attacks against Jehovah’s Witnesses or any other religion – racist content (7) A lot of newsgroup abusers are in my kill file, so I often do not see their posts and cannot reply to slander. (8) If I decide to stop participating in the newsgroups for a length of time or discontinue participation permanently, I will not be around to challenge forged posts! That is why I’m writing this post so that it becomes a permanent record in Usenet archives of the situation. I request that anyone who is aware of faked postings under anonymous remailers using my email address *please* alert me via email. I promise to keep your email in strictest confidence to avoid someone retaliating against you. I also want to mention that anyone who knows email technology (which newsgroup technology is built on) will know that a post is likely forged. That is why those of you who are NOT familiar with this technology should take every post you read with a grain of salt because it could be forged! For example, some sad individual without a life is sitting behind a keyboard having a field day with an unpopular poster "Pastor Dave" and creating mayhem by forging his posts, by exaggerating his dogmatic style to "flame" the newsgroup. Obviously the real poster cannot followup every single faked post with a comment "I did not write this." IT IS UP TO YOU TO RECOGNIZE THEIR WRITING STYLE AND SPOT FORGERIES. Otherwise, the whole free speech thing we are so privileged to enjoy, will fall apart. THE HEADERS IN THIS MESSAGE CAN SERVE AS A BENCHMARK FOR COMPARING OTHER POSTS IN QUESTION BEARING MY EMAIL ADDRESS. Thank you for listening and helping during these depressing times! It would be easier to just stop posting altogether but wouldn’t that essentially mean these "cyber-terrorists" win? That is why it is difficult to throw in the towel. If every legitimate human on Usenet would work together, perhaps we can avoid having to stop posting. Regards, Precision The following fraudulently forged email is a forged posting and only one of many permutations. THE REAL HEADER IS HIDDEN IN POSTS. Select "View Properties," "View Headers," or other similar command in your newsreader to see the hidden headers of the post and obtain the MX record for authentication:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Newsgroups: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Followup-To: alt.religion.jehovahs-witn Lines: 73 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Authenticated-User: $$lqjxr9nnj X-Comments: This message was posted through But look what your Jehovah god said in his bible: Psalm 137:9 "Happy shall he be that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." (Infanticide approved by god) so you hate the Almighty God of the Bible so much you would deny him the right to destroy the wicked and their progeny? buh-bye <PLONK Yes, Jesus spoke of evil people like we see posting the above propaganda against God… "(34) Offspring of vipers, how can YOU speak good things, when YOU are wicked? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. (35) The good man out of his good treasure sends out good things, whereas the wicked man out of his wicked treasure sends out wicked things. (36) I tell YOU that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on Judgment Day; (37) for by your words you will be declared righteous, and by your words you will be condemned.. . ." (Matthew 12:34- 37) I just keep having to remind myself every day that these are the kind of people that committed the Oklahoma bombing and assisted the terrorists in bombing the World Trade Center… it takes a really sick, ugly and vile people to revile God (and that only describes their inner parts). Visiting this forum is getting tougher every day… I would have never believed the apostate situation could have deteriorated to this unbelievable level. Precision — BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only here to slander and lie about Jehovah’s Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative organization… as a matter of fact, some are admitted atheists (Matthew 12:30; John 8:44-47) I have all of their posts filtered out because they can not hold an intelligent conversation and often resort to lies. They claim to be quoting from Watch Tower literature but these are *NOT* exact quotes, they change words and quote things out of context. I don’t respond to spurious fabrications. Hence if you see that I am not answering someone, it is because their previous attempts at deception have earned them a place in the ‘block sender’ file. They exist here only to destroy (1 Corinthians 10:6-11) They speak not as Christians (Ephesians 4:31-32) I do not need to name them for by their fruits you will recognize them (Matthew 7:16-20) One has to wonder, why was a newsgroup set up to attack this *one* organization? Matthew 5:10-12
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