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dugie3 wrote NAME: King Henry IV CRIME: Giving full freedom to his Protestants subjects; Murderd by Jesuit priest.
There were no such thing as Jesuits or Protestants when Henry IV reigned. Very magnanimous of the king just the same, and I’m certain that if there were Jesuits they would have daggered him anyway, so why get fussy? BAM There are many more(most are unknown).
If they are unknown, how can you know about them? BAM
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The Douay is older than the King James, and King James had almost nothing to do with the translation that bears his name. It was dedicated to him. That’s all.
Rocko resp: let me seee…..?? hmmmm! hinduism is older than Catholisism, so i guess that would make hinduism the true religion?? Just because something is older does not mean that it is better. The RCC is quite clearly described in the book of daniel and Revelation as being the beast. What other religion do you know of that owns a seperate state, regarded as a nation to the leaders of the world (speaking of Vatican city) and holds embassys to the nations of the world???
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The Douay is older than the King James, and King James had almost nothing to do with the translation that bears his name. It was dedicated to him. That’s all.
Rocko resp: That is the biggest lie that I ever heard a catholic tell. The king james version was ordered by King james himself, to be written in the exact way that threy were found in the dead sea scrolls. If what you are saying is true, then why is it that the "dead sea scrolls" are in exact harmony with the King James bible??
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Rocky the SDA Troll quipped: If what you are saying is true, then why is it that the "dead sea scrolls" are in exact harmony with the King James bible??
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Give it up, Rocky, you’ll never be the next Jay Leno. Dave
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JMJ The Douay is older than the King James, and King James had almost nothing to do with the translation that bears his name. It was dedicated to him. That’s all. Rocko resp: That is the biggest lie that I ever heard a catholic tell. The king james version was ordered by King james himself, to be written in the exact way that they were found in the dead sea scrolls. If what you are saying is true, then why is it that the "dead sea scrolls" are in exact harmony with the King James bible??
Your source for the statement "the "dead sea scrolls" are in exact harmony with the King James bible" ? My understanding they contain Hebrew versions of the duetero-canonical books(except Esther) thought only to have exist in Greek.at the time of Christ. Ray Brown S.S. demonstrates in "The New Jerome Biblical Commentary" that the works found at the Dead Sea indicates there was no official Old Testament at the time of Christ. The duetero-canonical books were dropped by the Jewish Rabbis at Council of Javneh in 90AD some 50 odd years after the death of Christ. During the first century, the Jews disagreed as to what constituted the canon of Scripture. In fact, there were a large number of different canons in use, including the growing canon used by Christians. In order to combat the spreading Christian cult, rabbis met at the city of Jamnia or Javneh in A.D. 90 to determine which books were truly the Word of God. They pronounced many books, including the Christian Gospels, to be unfit as scriptures. This canon also excluded seven books (Baruch, Sirach, 1 and 2 Maccabees, Tobit, Judith, and the Wisdom of Solomon, plus portions of Esther and Daniel) that Christians considered part of the Old Testament. The group of Jews which met at Javneh became the dominant group for later Jewish history, and today most Jews accept the canon of Javneh. However, some Jews, such as those from Ethiopia, follow a different canon which is identical to the Catholic Old Testament and includes the seven deuterocanonical books (cf. Encyclopedia Judaica, vol. 6, p. 1147). Needless to say, the Church disregarded the results of Javneh First: A Jewish council after the time of Christ is not binding on the followers of Christ. Second: Rabbis at Javneh rejected precisely those documents which are foundations for the Christian Church–the Gospels and the other documents of the New Testament. Third: By rejecting the deuterocanonicals, Javneh rejected books which had been used by Jesus and the apostles and which were in the edition of the Bible that the apostles used in everyday life–the Septuagint. BTW until the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls the oldest know Hebrew Biblical Manuscripts were from the 10th century AD Jim Carew sfo
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The Douay is older than the King James, and King James had almost nothing to do with the translation that bears hisname. It was dedicated to him. That’s all. Rockoresp: That is the biggest lie that I ever heard a catholic tell.
I’m not Catholic. The king james version was ordered by King james himself,
He mentioned that it would be good to have a new translation, but he did not "order" it. It was decided upon completely independently of the King, and it was dedicated to him after it was translated. You really should read a book or two before you pop off like this. to bewritten in the exact way that they were found in the dead sea scrolls.
The Dead Sea Scrolls had not been discovered in 1611. The King James was translated using the Masoretic text as its primary source for the Old Testament, not the Dead Sea Scrolls. If you are TRYING to say that the Dead Sea Scrolls show strong agreement with the Masoretic Text, and indicate a rather remarkable lack of corruption, you would be correct. But if you are saying that King James ordered people to translate the Bible out of the Dead Sea Scrolls in 1611, you are not only wrong, but you obviously don’t know the first thing you are talking about.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Give it up, Rocky, you’ll never be the next Jay Leno. Dave Rocko resp: Do you think for once you can actually answer the question???
Wonderful Rocko resp:
But you have failed to prove how the SDA church does not observe all of the commandments. This is the issue. IT diesnt matter if ellen white is a prophet or not, what matter is if the SDA church obsreves all of the commandments as described of Gods church in Rev 12:17. YOUR CHURCH CLEARLY DOES NOT FOLLOW THIS AND YOU ARE ALWAYS TRYING TO SHIFT THE SUBJECT.
Gives us all the doctrine of the SDA, Rocko.
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