Question:
Jesus, as his teachings are presented to us in the gospels, never taught that homosexuality was a sin. Thus, do we adore and embrace God, or His creature within ourselves?
Alan, Can you explain more about what you mean? Alan
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Response:
Yes
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Response:
- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jesus, as his teachings are presented to us in the gospels, never taught that homosexuality was a sin. Yes, and Jesus never addressed the business of television directly either, but that hardly "proves" that He approves of His followers watching all that there is to watch on TV, does it? Apples and oranges. The Catholic Church considers homosexuality to be instrinsically evil. While TV can be used for bad purposes, it is not considered intrinsically evil by any serious person. Apples and oranges. The Catholic Church considers homosexual behavior to be actively *sinful*. As does the Orthodox Church, the Baptist sects, the Pentecostal sects, the Lutheran sects, and all the other nominally Christian sects.
And what, might I ask, does that have to do with your comparison regarding television? Also, the fact that the Christian church says homosexuality is morally wrong, doens’t make it so. The Christians don’t have the market corned on morals, although I do grant an exceedinly high degree of excellence to the teachings of Jesus — but again, Jesus never taught against homosexuality. Besides, Jesus affirmed the teachings of the Old Testament, No he didn’t. He affirmed the validity of the the ten commandments ("the Law"). But he didn’t affirm all teachings of the Old Testament. Yes, He did. He referenced the prophets, in addition to the Ten Commandments. And nowhere did He reject the teachings of the OT, but rather assured His followers that He had come to fulfill the law and
the prophets. I’ll ask my question again: Yes, the Old Testament forbade homosexuality. But it also stipulated that women should be socially isolated while menstruating; that parents should kill their children if they worship any god other than the God of Israel; that those who work on the Sabbath should be executed; and that pregnant women should take an abortifacient to determine whether their pregnancy is the fruit of an illicit sexual relationship. Did Jesus support and affirm these teachings as well? If so, where is your proof? If not, can’t these precepts, as well as the precept against homosexuality, both be seen as cultural conventions and not sound moral teachings? I’m not pressing you for an answer. All I ask is that you think about it. * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
Response:
Jesus, as his teachings are presented to us in the gospels, never taught that homosexuality was a sin.
Thus, do we adore and embrace God, or His creature within ourselves? Alan
Response:
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You make a very good point. Given that a homosexual is someone who finds members of the same sex attractive (it does not involve having sex) Given that no homosexual ‘ever’ has stopped being a homosexual. That’s not what some of the groups which work with recovering homosexuals say. They offer the testimony of hundreds of *former* homosexuals who report they are no longer homosexuals, based on the definition YOU just offered above. Are you going to at least offer some evidence in support? Reading threw hundreds of testimonies by gays, there would seem a consensus that offers quite the opposite scenario. At the end of the day they seem to revert back to their initial instincts- same sex relationships. PeterT Orthodox I did mention the testimony of hundreds of people who testify that they were formerly homosexuals, didn’t I? All it takes is ONE person who goes from being a homosexual to being a normal person to prove my point, it seems to me. And from what I have read, there are hundreds of persons who have so testified. All that this shows is that on some occasion some are drawn to homosexuality because of cultural peer pressure. Testimonies by the majority of homos conclusively support that they are what they are and God created them in this way. When science conclusively proves that homosexuality is a genetic clich
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