Catholics & Catholicism

Question:

– Karen "+ I find it odd that YOU are trying to speak of a well mannered and intelligent person when you can’t even spell or understand the words you use.  Does this embarrass you"

Response:

There are many similarities between Osama – bin – Laden , Hasan – bin – Sabah , Charles Manson , and Joseph Smith .

+ AND Sajo Markecz… + All males.  All born from women.  All have hair on their head.  All have 10 fingers and ten toes.  All were cared for and nurtured by a woman when they were young.  All have but one heart, one head, one penus, one billy button, one stomach, pancreas, colon, and one liver. They all have two hands, two feet, two testicles, two lungs, two kidneys, and two nostrils. + They all have brains.  Each learned how to read.  Each have a certain charisma.   + Wow…  just look at all the similarities!

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There are many similarities between Osama – bin – Laden , Hasan – bin – Sabah , Charles Manson , and Joseph Smith .

**  The founder of Mormonism was Joseph Smith, Junior. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Charles Manson believed that the blacks , or very dark brown Africans , were the sons of Ham , one of Noah’s sons , whom Noah cursed to be the ancestor of slaves [ Genesis 9 : 18 - 29 ] . Manson was even arrogant enough to call the children of part dark brown African or Negro and Caucasoid ancestry " a black and white minstel show ." No where in Genesis 9 : 18 – 29 is skin colour mentioned , and in the Acts of the Apostles , chapter 8 : 26 – 39 , it is said that St. Philip the Evangelist converted to Christianity the treasurer of the Queen of the Ethiopians , Candace . Charles Manson was also a statutory "polygamist"/concubinist/rapist , as some post – 1890 Mormon splinter groups still are to this day. A statutory "polygamist"/concubinist/rapist is someone who marries or has as a concubine more than one female under the age of 16 at the same time . " The Family " that Charles Manson gave the name to the members of his cult might have been an allusion on Manson’s part to Ephesians 3 : 14 – 15 , where the Apostle St. Paul says : " For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named …" The Prophet Muhammad , the founder of Islam , allowed the Muslims to own slaves and to have a maximum of four wives at the same time .

**  according to Qur’an 23:5, Muslim men are allowed to own "slave girls" and copulate them.   To this day , many southern Sudanese Christians and polytheists are sold into slavery to Saudi Arabian sheiks by the northern Sudanese Muslims . Hasan – bin – Sabah was the leader from 1092 – 1125 A.D. of a medieval Muslim terrorist group called the " Assassins ," or " hashashins ," Persian or Iranian for " hemp – eaters . "

**  the inventors of the cannabis-brownie ? These Assassins belonged to the Ismaili denomination of the Shiite division of Islam . These Muslim terrorists killed their enemies while under the influence of hashish , a drug made from the hemp plant . Hasan – bin – Sabah was alleged by both his Muslim and Christian Crusader enemies to use hashish and belly – dancing concubines and wives from his harem who performed sexual favours in order to gain recruits for his terrorist organization . Hasan – bin – Sabah was called " The Old Man of the Mountain " because he had as his base a mountain castle – fortress called " Alamut ," meaning " eagle’s nest ," located in what is today the nation – state of Iran . The reason why the mainstream Mormon Church , officially known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter – Day Saints , abolished polygamy in 1890 ,

**  even though polygamy became unlawful in Utah in 1890 (to gain statehood in 1895), the Church continued to issue secret polygamy permits under the table until 1906. was because that was one of the requirements that had to be met in order to allow Utah to gain the status of a state , even though freedom of religious expression is protected by the U.S. Constitution . Joseph Smith , the founder of the Mormon church , based his favourable views on polygamy on the fact that many famous Jews mentioned in the Old Testament practiced polygamy and concubinage [ see 1 Kings 11 : 1 - 13 , Galatians chapter 4 ] .

**  Smith also read the Qur’an.  He seems to have picked up some ideas for his new religion from it since Mormon paradise and Muhammadan paradise are strikingly similar in that guys copulate with a seraglio of babes with perfect bods who are in eternal estrus.  As I write this, the 19, (9-11-2001) suicide bombers are supposedly in paradise happily copulating 72 dropdead gorgeous women each.   Is such a scenario likely to be wonderful?  In my younger days, I had two girlfriends at the same time. Two proved to be somewhat hellish.    72 sounds like the path to bottomless perdition. cheerz, Joseph – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Smith also claimed that Jesus Christ had three wives at the same time , and that they were Mary of Bethany , Martha , and Mary Magdalene , also known as Mary of Magdala . Susan Atkins , one of Charles Manson’s concubines , sometimes might have thought that she was Mary Magdalene , a former prostitute according to several Christian denominations , including the Roman Catholic one , who was forgiven by Jesus Christ after she decided to change her ways . Joseph Smith believed that only members of the Mormon church were true Jews , and that the non – Mormon Jews , the non – Mormon Christians , and the Muslims , pagans or polytheists , agnostics , and atheists were all " Gentiles ." There have been several Christian groups and cults throughout history who have claimed that sexual intercourse is some kind of mystical , religious , and emotionally as well as physically ecstatic experience . They have included the Puritan sects and cults called the Ranters and Antinomians [ "antinomos," Greek for "anti - law." ] . The 1600’s English Puritan Ranter sect and cult leaders Laurence Clarkson or Laurence Claxton and Abiezer Coppe might have sometimes thought that they were the two witnesses of God mentioned in Revelation ch.11 , and the leader of the 1600’s English Puritan sect called the Antinomians was a certain Anne Marbury Hutchinson [ 1591 - 1643 ] , who settled with her family in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1634 . The Puritan Ranter sect believed that as members of the predestined or elect saints , they could do no wrong , and were therefore exempt from all conventional theological interpretations of ethics as taught in both the Old and the New Testaments . In 1643 , Anne and several other members of the Hutchinson family were murdered in the then Dutch colony of the state of New York by native American Indians . I personally do not believe that the Apostle St. Paul’s teaching in Romans 10 : 13 , " that whomsoever calls on the name of the LORD will be saved ," is a justification to shout the word " God " when having a sexual orgasm , and then claim that it is an action done in the faith . I also do not believe that the Apostle St. Paul’s teaching in Romans 4 : 15 , " that where there is no law , there is no sin , " is a justification to walk around nakedly because Adam and Eve once did so unashamedly before Satan , the fallen angel , disguised as a snake [ Revelation 12 : 7 - 9 ] , tricked them into eating the fruit of forbidden knowledge , thereby causing Adam and Eve to lose their innocence and immortality [ see also Romans chapter 7 , and Song of Songs ] . I also do not believe that because God the Father is physically speaking neither a man nor a woman it is morally justifiable to engage in bisexual , homosexual , and lesbian sexual intercourse . The evolutionary purpose of sexual intercourse for humans is to produce offspring . However , a literal , fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible can sometimes lead to sin , as those Christians who engage in incest might argue that the children of Adam and Eve and the grandchildren of Noah had to have had sexual intercourse with each other in order to have offspring . Charles Manson , who sometimes believed that he was the Son of Man , the Second Coming of Jesus Christ opening the seven seals mentioned in the New Testament book of Revelation , in other words the Parousia , was also a strong admirer of Adolf Hitler , and one of the possible reasons why Charles Manson carved a swastika in his forehead , was because he was angry with those Jews who refused to believe that he was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ . Jesus Christ told His disciples in Matthew 10 : 1 – 15 to first preach the Gospel of Christianity to the Jews of Israel , and later Jesus told His disciples to preach the Christian Gospel to all the nations of the world in Matthew 28 : 18 – 20 . However , Jesus Christ would not have sanctioned the use of force and violence in converting people to Christianity , as He had taught His disciples in Matthew 7 : 12 and Luke 6 : 31 to do towards others as we would want them to do to us . Charles Manson was of Scotch – Irish Baptist ancestry , born in 1934 in the city of Cincinnati , separated by the Ohio River from the former U.S. slave state of Kentucky , and during the U.S. Civil War of 1861 – 1865 , many Kentuckians fought for the pro – slavery southern Confederate States of America , as well as for the pro – federal and pro – high industrial protectionist tariffs of the northern United States of America . Even in the southern counties of Ohio , where Cincinnati is located , there were many pro – southern sympathizers . Just south of the city of Cincinnati lies the Kentucky town of Covington , located where the Licking River empties into the Ohio River . Manson’s biological father was a certain Colonel Scott of Ashland city , located in Kentucky . As a boy , Manson was raised by his mother’s sister or his maternal aunt , who was a Bible – bashing

**  on this side of the pond:   "Bible bashing" is taken to mean criticism of the Bible.  Rabid supporters of the Bible are called "Bible thumpers". …

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Response:

There are many similarities between Osama – bin – Laden , Hasan – bin – Sabah , Charles Manson , and Joseph Smith . Charles Manson believed that the blacks , or very dark brown Africans , were the sons of Ham , one of Noah’s sons , whom Noah cursed to be the ancestor of slaves [ Genesis 9 : 18 - 29 ] . Manson was even arrogant enough to call the children of part dark brown African or Negro and Caucasoid ancestry " a black and white minstel show ." No where in Genesis 9 : 18 – 29 is skin colour mentioned , and in the Acts of the Apostles , chapter 8 : 26 – 39 , it is said that St. Philip the Evangelist converted to Christianity the treasurer of the Queen of the Ethiopians , Candace . Charles Manson was also a statutory "polygamist"/concubinist/rapist , as some post – 1890 Mormon splinter groups still are to this day. A statutory "polygamist"/concubinist/rapist is someone who marries or has as a concubine more than one female under the age of 16 at the same time . " The Family " that Charles Manson gave the name to the members of his cult might have been an allusion on Manson’s part to Ephesians 3 : 14 – 15 , where the Apostle St. Paul says : " For this reason I bow my knees to the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , from whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named …" The Prophet Muhammad , the founder of Islam , allowed the Muslims to own slaves and to have a maximum of four wives at the same time . To this day , many southern Sudanese Christians and polytheists are sold into slavery to Saudi Arabian sheiks by the northern Sudanese Muslims . Hasan – bin – Sabah was the leader from 1092 – 1125 A.D. of a medieval Muslim terrorist group called the " Assassins ," or " hashashins ," Persian or Iranian for " hemp – eaters . " These Assassins belonged to the Ismaili denomination of the Shiite division of Islam . These Muslim terrorists killed their enemies while under the influence of hashish , a drug made from the hemp plant . Hasan – bin – Sabah was alleged by both his Muslim and Christian Crusader enemies to use hashish and belly – dancing concubines and wives from his harem who performed sexual favours in order to gain recruits for his terrorist organization . Hasan – bin – Sabah was called " The Old Man of the Mountain " because he had as his base a mountain castle – fortress called " Alamut ," meaning " eagle’s nest ," located in what is today the nation – state of Iran . The reason why the mainstream Mormon Church , officially known as The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter – Day Saints , abolished polygamy in 1890 , was because that was one of the requirements that had to be met in order to allow Utah to gain the status of a state , even though freedom of religious expression is protected by the U.S. Constitution . Joseph Smith , the founder of the Mormon church , based his favourable views on polygamy on the fact that many famous Jews mentioned in the Old Testament practiced polygamy and concubinage [ see 1 Kings 11 : 1 - 13 , Galatians chapter 4 ] . Joseph Smith also claimed that Jesus Christ had three wives at the same time , and that they were Mary of Bethany , Martha , and Mary Magdalene , also known as Mary of Magdala . Susan Atkins , one of Charles Manson’s concubines , sometimes might have thought that she was Mary Magdalene , a former prostitute according to several Christian denominations , including the Roman Catholic one , who was forgiven by Jesus Christ after she decided to change her ways . Joseph Smith believed that only members of the Mormon church were true Jews , and that the non – Mormon Jews , the non – Mormon Christians , and the Muslims , pagans or polytheists , agnostics , and atheists were all " Gentiles ." There have been several Christian groups and cults throughout history who have claimed that sexual intercourse is some kind of mystical , religious , and emotionally as well as physically ecstatic experience . They have included the Puritan sects and cults called the Ranters and Antinomians [ "antinomos," Greek for "anti - law." ] . The 1600’s English Puritan Ranter sect and cult leaders Laurence Clarkson or Laurence Claxton and Abiezer Coppe might have sometimes thought that they were the two witnesses of God mentioned in Revelation ch.11 , and the leader of the 1600’s English Puritan sect called the Antinomians was a certain Anne Marbury Hutchinson [ 1591 - 1643 ] , who settled with her family in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1634 . The Puritan Ranter sect believed that as members of the predestined or elect saints , they could do no wrong , and were therefore exempt from all conventional theological interpretations of ethics as taught in both the Old and the New Testaments . In 1643 , Anne and several other members of the Hutchinson family were murdered in the then Dutch colony of the state of New York by native American Indians . I personally do not believe that the Apostle St. Paul’s teaching in Romans 10 : 13 , " that whomsoever calls on the name of the LORD will be saved ," is a justification to shout the word " God " when having a sexual orgasm , and then claim that it is an action done in the faith . I also do not believe that the Apostle St. Paul’s teaching in Romans 4 : 15 , " that where there is no law , there is no sin , " is a justification to walk around nakedly because Adam and Eve once did so unashamedly before Satan , the fallen angel , disguised as a snake [ Revelation 12 : 7 - 9 ] , tricked them into eating the fruit of forbidden knowledge , thereby causing Adam and Eve to lose their innocence and immortality [ see also Romans chapter 7 , and Song of Songs ] . I also do not believe that because God the Father is physically speaking neither a man nor a woman it is morally justifiable to engage in bisexual , homosexual , and lesbian sexual intercourse . The evolutionary purpose of sexual intercourse for humans is to produce offspring . However , a literal , fundamentalist interpretation of the Bible can sometimes lead to sin , as those Christians who engage in incest might argue that the children of Adam and Eve and the grandchildren of Noah had to have had sexual intercourse with each other in order to have offspring . Charles Manson , who sometimes believed that he was the Son of Man , the Second Coming of Jesus Christ opening the seven seals mentioned in the New Testament book of Revelation , in other words the Parousia , was also a strong admirer of Adolf Hitler , and one of the possible reasons why Charles Manson carved a swastika in his forehead , was because he was angry with those Jews who refused to believe that he was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ . Jesus Christ told His disciples in Matthew 10 : 1 – 15 to first preach the Gospel of Christianity to the Jews of Israel , and later Jesus told His disciples to preach the Christian Gospel to all the nations of the world in Matthew 28 : 18 – 20 . However , Jesus Christ would not have sanctioned the use of force and violence in converting people to Christianity , as He had taught His disciples in Matthew 7 : 12 and Luke 6 : 31 to do towards others as we would want them to do to us . Charles Manson was of Scotch – Irish Baptist ancestry , born in 1934 in the city of Cincinnati , separated by the Ohio River from the former U.S. slave state of Kentucky , and during the U.S. Civil War of 1861 – 1865 , many Kentuckians fought for the pro – slavery southern Confederate States of America , as well as for the pro – federal and pro – high industrial protectionist tariffs of the northern United States of America . Even in the southern counties of Ohio , where Cincinnati is located , there were many pro – southern sympathizers . Just south of the city of Cincinnati lies the Kentucky town of Covington , located where the Licking River empties into the Ohio River . Manson’s biological father was a certain Colonel Scott of Ashland city , located in Kentucky . As a boy , Manson was raised by his mother’s sister or his maternal aunt , who was a Bible – bashing Scotch – Irish Baptist , and who lived in the village of McMechen , located in the former U.S. slave state of West Virginia , where the states’ population saw its members divided in their loyalties during the U.S. Civil War of 1861 – 1865 . Charles Manson was a Nazi who decided to use the Hippies because they were so easy to mislead , being for the most part usually unwise and easily bought with drugs and sexual favours .The real reason why Charles Manson was angry with the police was because they refused to make him the Chief of the Gestapo , with the power to send to the gas chambers those Jews who refused to believe that he was the Second Coming of Jesus Christ , the Son of Man , the Parousia . Jesus Christ said in Matthew 23 : 37 – 39 the following : " O Jerusalem , Jerusalem , the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her ! How often I wanted to gather your children together , as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings , but you were not willing ! " See ! Your house is left to you desolate ; " For I say to you , you shall see Me no more till you say , ‘ Blessed is He who comes in the name of the LORD ! ‘ " For Charles Manson , the true "pigs" were any one who opposed his views , especially the politically correct , although to some extent Manson was justified in his hostility towards the politically correct . Charles Manson was also a believer in reincarnation . According to Luke 1 : 11 – 19 and Matthew 17 : 1 – 13 , St. John the Baptist was the Prophet Elijah returned to Earth to prepare people for the first coming of the prophesied Messiah of the Old Testament . Manson might have believed on occasions that he was another John the Baptist , sent to prepare the way for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ . John the Baptist said in Matthew 3 : 7 to the ancient Israeli Jewish sects called the Pharisees and Sadducees this , " Brood of vipers ! Who told you to flee from the wrath to come ? " Manson also on occasions believed that he … read more »

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