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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church.
There is no proof whatsoever that Peter was ever the Bishop of Rome and IIRC, no records exist that showed he ever even went to Rome. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time.
In other words. you must become a cannibal to be saved, and stay saved. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.
In other words, FAITH is not enough to save you!!! This is a Jesus PLUS something else theology, which is heresy. Blobert<<
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Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?
It can’t, but that does not stop them from claiming it does. The technical term is "transsubstantiation", it becomes a different substance….. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation. Otherwise what would the need have been of Jesus dying on the cross for us? I am a little confused on these beliefs you have given to me and want to understand the view a little more than that.
The entire Roman Catholic Church is so far from being a Christian church that no one will blame you for being befuddled. It is the biggest mess on the planet today. Blobert<<
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I want to know what are the indepth beliefs? I mean how more specific can i get? Like I am Assembly of God and we have the 16 fundamental truths that we believe. So what is it the Catholics believe? They believe in many of the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, BUT!!! They =add= in a bunch of stuff, like worshipping idols, which is expressly prohibited in the 2nd Commandment and expressly =ordered= in Vatican II. They declare that only communion can wipe away your sins; in other words, if you don’t get to "mass" all the time, you might get hit by a truck while you have lost your salvation and go to hell. They teach that Mary can not only hear your prayers (which she can’t, not anymore than my late wife can) but that praying to Mary practically guarantees your prayers will be answered because Jesus MUST obey His mother. They teach that you can lose your salvation, which is impossible<
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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is one good place to start I think. http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm It is also available at book stores for about 8 dollars US. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.
Well, if you really want to know what they believe you should ask a priest. Then, when you have finished laughing, you could come and ask us why they are so far off the mark from what the Bible teaches……. The Roman Catholic Church basically teaches that God is still quite angry with mankind and you must get someone to help you approach Him, rather than going to Him directly. They have a bazillion "saints" to help you get over God’s hatred of mankind. AND!!! If you are not worshipping Mary and believing that she can make Jesus do whatever she wants, then you are a "heretic". The entire Roman Catholic Church is FUBAR; Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition. They resemble a church in the same way that the aisles of your local grocery store resemble a bowling alley. Bob<<
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Which denomination are you from?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Well I want to know what are the indepth beliefs? I mean how more specific can i get? Like I am Assembly of God and we have the 16 fundamental truths that we believe. So what is it the Catholics believe? They believe in many of the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, BUT!!! They =add= in a bunch of stuff, like worshipping idols, which is expressly prohibited in the 2nd Commandment and expressly =ordered= in Vatican II. They declare that only communion can wipe away your sins; in other words, if you don’t get to "mass" all the time, you might get hit by a truck while you have lost your salvation and go to hell. They teach that Mary can not only hear your prayers (which she can’t, not anymore than my late wife can) but that praying to Mary practically guarantees your prayers will be answered because Jesus MUST obey His mother. They teach that you can lose your salvation, which is impossible, and that the RCC is descended from Peter, which it’s not. The discrepancies twixt what they teach and what the Bible says are so great that if you were to ask for them all, my newsgroup server would surely refuse to post such a long message. I believe I am limited to only 30 pages….. Blob<<
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Well I want to know what are the indepth beliefs? I mean how more specific can i get? Like I am Assembly of God and we have the 16 fundamental truths that we believe. So what is it the Catholics believe?
They believe in many of the fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith, BUT!!! They =add= in a bunch of stuff, like worshipping idols, which is expressly prohibited in the 2nd Commandment and expressly =ordered= in Vatican II. They declare that only communion can wipe away your sins; in other words, if you don’t get to "mass" all the time, you might get hit by a truck while you have lost your salvation and go to hell. They teach that Mary can not only hear your prayers (which she can’t, not anymore than my late wife can) but that praying to Mary practically guarantees your prayers will be answered because Jesus MUST obey His mother. They teach that you can lose your salvation, which is impossible, and that the RCC is descended from Peter, which it’s not. The discrepancies twixt what they teach and what the Bible says are so great that if you were to ask for them all, my newsgroup server would surely refuse to post such a long message. I believe I am limited to only 30 pages….. Blob<<
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Yes I got that, I went to catholic.org and was able to look at their beliefs and I tell you it is all about the politics instead of the faith in Jesus. It definitely does get me. It really irks me that these people call themselves Christian but do not believe in salvation as it is meant. I found they believe that if they are baptized then they are saved. And to me that is all wrong because then why would Jesus have died for our sins? And then the Bible would all be wrong. So it is just so wrong. I have alot of Catholic family on my husbands side and I have tried to explain to them this and they just don’t get it. I asked my sis n law her beliefs and she would not tell me. She said she wasn’t certain of what catholics believe but she is a devout catholic and won’t listen to what I have to say either. I also found that when they take communion they believe that it is truly turned into Jesus’s blood and body and the partake of it. So are they cannibals then? I tried to explain that communion is done as a remembrance of what Jesus did for us. It is symbolic of His love for us. But of course they don’t believe me on that either. Wow! I just can’t believe how far out there they are.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs. Well, if you really want to know what they believe you should ask a priest. Then, when you have finished laughing, you could come and ask us why they are so far off the mark from what the Bible teaches……. The Roman Catholic Church basically teaches that God is still quite angry with mankind and you must get someone to help you approach Him, rather than going to Him directly. They have a bazillion "saints" to help you get over God’s hatred of mankind. AND!!! If you are not worshipping Mary and believing that she can make Jesus do whatever she wants, then you are a "heretic". The entire Roman Catholic Church is FUBAR; Fouled Up Beyond All Recognition. They resemble a church in the same way that the aisles of your local grocery store resemble a bowling alley. Bob<<
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying to say. Do you ever use the word ‘brake’ as the past tense of ‘to break’? Or do you say, ‘ he broke it’? Ok I see what you are saying now. Ok if I were there in person watching him do this or I was trying to quote what one said I would say brake, but if I were relaying something or just telling a story I would say he broke it. Brake- meaning of a more personal breaking.< That is total nonsense. You are going to be beaten to death, revived, and beaten to death for eternity. oh really?!<
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying to say. Do you ever use the word ‘brake’ as the past tense of ‘to break’? Or do you say, ‘ he broke it’? Ok I see what you are saying now. Ok if I were there in person watching him do this or I was trying to quote what one said I would say brake, but if I were relaying something or just telling a story I would say he broke it. Brake- meaning of a more personal breaking.< That is total nonsense. You are going to be beaten to death, revived, and beaten to death for eternity. oh really?! you know what you can criticize me for my beliefs but it does
not make a bit of difference to me. I do not have to have your acceptance to have peace that God has saved me. I believe in Him and know that because I went to God in prayer and asked forgiveness and I believe in His birth, walk on earth, His death and resurrection I have been sanctified and cleansed and I will not have to go through awful torment in Hell. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 – King James Version Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God." And to get this sanctification Acts 17:30-31 – King James Version "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead."
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying to say. Do you ever use the word ‘brake’ as the past tense of ‘to break’? Or do you say, ‘ he broke it’?
Ok I see what you are saying now. Ok if I were there in person watching him do this or I was trying to quote what one said I would say brake, but if I were relaying something or just telling a story I would say he broke it. Brake- meaning of a more personal breaking. That is how I read it – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying to say. Do you ever use the word ‘brake’ as the past tense of ‘to break’? Or do you say, ‘ he broke it’? Ok I see what you are saying now. Ok if I were there in person watching him do this or I was trying to quote what one said I would say brake, but if I were relaying something or just telling a story I would say he broke it. Brake- meaning of a more personal breaking.<
That is total nonsense. You are going to be beaten to death, revived, and beaten to death for eternity.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible< Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one? Why not what in my own language? I do not understand what you are trying to say.
Do you ever use the word ‘brake’ as the past tense of ‘to break’? Or do you say, ‘ he broke it’?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life?
What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible and that is what I stand on. And I just wanted to know the Catholic religion for personal reasons. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."<
How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it.< Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me."< How is it that you use a translation made in a language style that you do not use yourself? Are you terrified of God? Is your religion a mere add-on to your life? What do you mean by that? God is God and if you are saved, why would you be terrified? I do not claim any religion per say, I read the Bible<
Why not one in your own language? Can you not afford one?
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?<
At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.<
That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it. Otherwise what would the need have been of Jesus dying on the cross for us?<
What do you think is the result of Jesus dying on the cross for a believer?
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Well how can it be literally when in scripture it not only says "This is my body" but it states this 1 Corinthians 11:24 – "and when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, This is my body, which is for you: this do in remembrance of me." This is in remembrance of Him, not as it is actually happening. But we drink the wine and eat the bread to remember what He did for us, not as partaking of his actual body and blood, wouldn’t that be canabalism? And what I meant about salvation was good works won’t get us to heaven, it will be salvation which is received by faith through grace, But to get that salvation Romans 10:9 – "because if thou shalt confess with thy mouth Jesus [as] Lord, and shalt believe in thy heart that God raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved:" I think the good works just comes with being dedicated to God but it isn’t something that will get us to Heaven – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.< Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ?< At the Passover meal, Jesus said of bread, "This is my body". Roman Catholics take that literally, and believe that the bread became Jesus’ body at that moment. In the Mass, one person takes the role of Jesus, and also, it is believed, changes bread into Jesus’ body, and wine into his blood. And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation.< That sentence does not make sense. Perhaps you could re-phrase it. Otherwise what would the need have been of Jesus dying on the cross for us?< What do you think is the result of Jesus dying on the cross for a believer?
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Ok I have a question how can the bread and wine be changed into the actual body and blood of Christ? And secondly, how can you be justified by faith and good works if it takes the salvation. Otherwise what would the need have been of Jesus dying on the cross for us? I am a little confused on these beliefs you have given to me and want to understand the view a little more than that.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.< Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.
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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.<
Historically, the three best known beliefs of Roman Catholics are these: a) that when Jesus said, "You are rock, and on this rock I will build my church" he meant that Simon ‘Peter’ would be in charge of the church, and would have successors as the controllers of the church. b) that in a ritual known as the Mass, bread and wine are changed into the actual body and blood of Christ, which are then eaten and drunk, and are sacrificed on behalf of the recipients at that time. c) that people are accounted righteous by God (justified) by faith and good works.
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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.
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Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs.
That’s like asking what Moslems believe. Catholics believe all sorts of things. In what areas are you curious? You might do better to go to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic and ask specific questions there, but be specific. Otherwise, read the catholic catechism which is online if you search for it
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Well I want to know what are the indepth beliefs? I mean how more specific can i get? Like I am Assembly of God and we have the 16 fundamental truths that we believe. So what is it the Catholics believe?
Try this: http://www.cin.org/doctrine.html
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Well I want to know what are the indepth beliefs? I mean how more specific can i get? Like I am Assembly of God and we have the 16 fundamental truths that we believe. So what is it the Catholics believe?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can anyone tell me what are the true beliefs of Catholics? I want to know indepth their beliefs. And please I don’t want to hear arguments or anything on the subject. I just want to know the beliefs. That’s like asking what Moslems believe. Catholics believe all sorts of things. In what areas are you curious? You might do better to go to alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic and ask specific questions there, but be specific. Otherwise, read the catholic catechism which is online if you search for it
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