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Catholic clergy far from only abusers: U.S. survey Most church sex crimes blamed on Protestant volunteers Richard Foot National Post, with files from The Christian Science Monitor http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20020412/61792…
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Catholic clergy far from only abusers: U.S. survey Most church sex crimes blamed on Protestant volunteers Richard Foot National Post, with files from The Christian Science Monitor
http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20020412/61792… "The national study, by Christian Ministry Resources, contradicts the assumption, created in the United States by a recent series of sex-crime scandals, that Roman Catholic clergy are responsible for most of the sex abuse taking place in churches." It is an unsupported assumption that their assumption is valid! No one I have seen, in news groups, personal contacts, or on television has assumed this is a "Catholic only" problem. BTW .. there is a big difference between volunteers and clergy!!!
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No one I have seen, in news groups, personal contacts, or on television has assumed this is a "Catholic only" problem.
You should try listening to talk radio sometime.
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The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims.
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says… The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims.
Who are you to stand in judgement of the Church? Do you feign ignorance of the fact that confessions are under rules of secrecy with immediate excommunication the penalty for breeching this trust. The Church has and will continue to encourage the faithful to repent and right the past wrongs that it is possible to right. How dare you sit in judgment of Christ’s Church Neither you nor worldly leaders has that right. 1Co:6:1: Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 1Co:6:2: Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co:6:3: Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1Co:6:4: If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 1Co:6:5: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 1Co:6:6: But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 1Co:6:7: Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
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The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims.
There have been a lot of different cases at this point. I don’t know if that blanket statement about a "cover up" is going to hold. BAM
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says… The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims. Who are you to stand in judgement of the Church?
Who is the "Church" to allow molestations and coverups? The "Church" is not above the LAW! Do you feign ignorance of the fact that confessions are under rules of secrecy with immediate excommunication the penalty for breeching this trust.
Do you understand that this has nothing to do with confessions? The Church has and will continue to encourage the faithful to repent and right the past wrongs that it is possible to right.
Apparently, since the pope told Law not to resign, the "church" will also allow the criminals to be their representatives. How dare you sit in judgment of Christ’s Church Neither you nor worldly leaders has that right.
It is only in your obscene delusions that the RCC is "Christ’s Church"!
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says… The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims. Who are you to stand in judgement of the Church? Do you feign ignorance of the fact that confessions are under rules of secrecy with immediate excommunication the penalty for breeching this trust. The Church has and will continue to encourage the faithful to repent and right the past wrongs that it is possible to right. How dare you sit in judgment of Christ’s Church Neither you nor worldly leaders has that right.
Look, CRIMES were committed. There isn’t supposed to be any absolution without the offender turning themselves in. It didn’t happen. The offenders were merely transferred to where they could commit more crimes. Don’t give us that "how dare you judge" line. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, and it’s not judging to call it out.
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Catholic clergy far from only abusers: U.S. survey Most church sex crimes blamed on Protestant volunteers Richard Foot National Post, with files from The Christian Science Monitor http://www.nationalpost.com/home/story.html?f=/stories/20020412/61792…
I know of more than a few Protestant pastors who got fired for adultery. Let the Catholic priests get married and purge their ranks of the perverts – problem solved. Calling marriage sacred and denying priests the right to get married makes no sense. Too many catholics want to hold onto celibacy because of tradition. A man and woman marrying is normal. Asking a man to abstain from being with a woman is not normal. Also http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/4/10/120320.shtml
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A man and woman marrying is normal. Asking a man to abstain from being with a woman is not normal.
Tell it to God. He started this mess… Steve
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How dare you sit in judgment of Christ’s Church Neither you nor worldly leaders has that right. It is only in your obscene delusions that the RCC is "Christ’s Church"!
Again, who are you to sit in judgement of our Lord Jesus Christ’s Holy Catholic Church? — "Through Our Lord Jesus Christ our Apostles knew that there would be strife over the office of episcopacy. Accordingly, since they had obtained a perfect foreknowledge of this, they appointed those men already mentioned. And they afterwards gave instructions that when those men would fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry. Therefore, we are of the opinion that those appointed by the Apostles, or afterwards by other acclaimed men, with the consent of the whole church, and who have blamelessly served the flock of Christ in a humble, peaceable, and disinterested spirit, and have for a long time possessed the good opinion of all, cannot be justly dismissed from the ministry." St. Clement Of Rome ("The Epistle Of Clement To The Corinthians," c. 96 A.D.)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – says… The problem is not that child abuse is widespread. The problem is that the leaders hid the abuse, did not report criminal behavior, and generally acted more to protect the church institution rather than to protect the victims. Who are you to stand in judgement of the Church? Do you feign ignorance of the fact that confessions are under rules of secrecy with immediate excommunication the penalty for breeching this trust. The Church has and will continue to encourage the faithful to repent and right the past wrongs that it is possible to right. How dare you sit in judgment of Christ’s Church Neither you nor worldly leaders has that right. Look, CRIMES were committed. There isn’t supposed to be any absolution without the offender turning themselves in. It didn’t happen. The offenders were merely transferred to where they could commit more crimes. Don’t give us that "how dare you judge" line. Wrongdoing is wrongdoing, and it’s not judging to call it out.
1Co:6:1: Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? 1Co:6:2: Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 1Co:6:3: Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? 1Co:6:4: If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church. 1Co:6:5: I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren? 1Co:6:6: But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers. 1Co:6:7: Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
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