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One of the wonderful things about this "prophecy" is that it can easily be applied to any time period in history, thus assuring that we will forever be plagued by a horde of day-counting nutcases, continually preaching that the End is just around the corner. While it may have been entertaining for a while, the joke has worn very thin over the last two thousand years. Give it up, guys. He’s dead – he’s not coming back any more than Elvis is. -Curt
Maybe God wants the Church o go on for a million years. (And we’ve only passed about 1977 years) We don’t know the time that the Lord Jesus will return, so stay awake, be watchfull, and praise the lord for he has done wonderful things. Visit the Hall of Failed Prophecies: http://www.primenet.com/~heuvelc/skeptic/predictions.htm
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Scientology is a profanity and cult of true Christianity, and so be informed that your demise is soon upon you. Instead of being opposed to hearing truth, and staying in your religion of lies, perhaps, you may want to consider that your eternity is at stake, and while you indulge Scientology, it is giving you a fast ticket to eternal hell. — http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html Dore
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It has everything to do with NOW, and absolutely NOTHING to do with Israel. and NOTHING to do with scientology, so stop posting it to a.r.s! — http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html Dore "And as he was sitting on the mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And what is the sign of your coming and of the end of the age? And answering, Jesus said to them, See that not any lead you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ. And they will cause many to err. But you are going to hear of wars and rumors of wars. See, do not be disturbed. For all things must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will be raised against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and plagues and earthquakes against many places. But all these are a beginning of throes. Then they will deliver you up to affliction, and will kill you; and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will be offended, and they will deliver up one another, and will hate one another. And many false prophets will be raised, and will cause many to err. And because lawlessness shall have been multiplied, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end, that one will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a testimony to all the nations; and then will come the end." Matthew 24:3-14 Your questuion cannot be answered from this verse. Matthew 24 refers to a future time during the seven years immediately prior to the second advent. It deals mainly with Israel during Daniel’s seventieth week. Graeme Hunt http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~invictus
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Matthew 24:3-14 One of the wonderful things about this "prophecy" is that it can easily be applied to any time period in history, thus assuring that we will forever be plagued by a horde of day-counting nutcases, continually preaching that the End is just around the corner. While it may have been entertaining for a while, the joke has worn very thin over the last two thousand years. Give it up, guys. He’s dead – he’s not coming back any more than Elvis is.
It can only be "applied" in such a manner as you describe when it is taken out of context. The passage you mention is braketed by the following two sayings: NAB Matthew 23:36 "Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. NAB Matthew 24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. So you and a large number of Christians are both wrong. He did "come" just as He said He would. NAB Matthew 16:28 "Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom." And He came WHEN He said He would. The evidence, is the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple in A.D. 70, after which there has been no more animal sacrifices for sins nor has there been any worship "on this mount" nor in Jerusalem. NAB John 4:20 "Our fathers worshiped in this mountain, and you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship." 21 Jesus said to her, "Woman, believe Me, an hour is coming when neither in this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. 22 " You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers. 24 "God is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth." 25 The woman said to Him, "I know that Messiah is coming (He who is called Christ); when that One comes, He will declare all things to us." 26 Jesus said to her, "I who speak to you am He." Scott
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It has everything to do with NOW, and absolutely NOTHING to do with Israel.
and NOTHING to do with scientology, so stop posting it to a.r.s! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html Dore "And as he was sitting on the mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And what is the sign of your coming and of the end of the age? And answering, Jesus said to them, See that not any lead you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ. And they will cause many to err. But you are going to hear of wars and rumors of wars. See, do not be disturbed. For all things must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will be raised against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and plagues and earthquakes against many places. But all these are a beginning of throes. Then they will deliver you up to affliction, and will kill you; and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will be offended, and they will deliver up one another, and will hate one another. And many false prophets will be raised, and will cause many to err. And because lawlessness shall have been multiplied, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end, that one will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a testimony to all the nations; and then will come the end." Matthew 24:3-14 Your questuion cannot be answered from this verse. Matthew 24 refers to a future time during the seven years immediately prior to the second advent. It deals mainly with Israel during Daniel’s seventieth week. Graeme Hunt http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~invictus
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It has everything to do with NOW, and absolutely NOTHING to do with Israel. — http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html Dore
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "And as he was sitting on the mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And what is the sign of your coming and of the end of the age? And answering, Jesus said to them, See that not any lead you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ. And they will cause many to err. But you are going to hear of wars and rumors of wars. See, do not be disturbed. For all things must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will be raised against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and plagues and earthquakes against many places. But all these are a beginning of throes. Then they will deliver you up to affliction, and will kill you; and you will be hated by all nations for my name’s sake. And then many will be offended, and they will deliver up one another, and will hate one another. And many false prophets will be raised, and will cause many to err. And because lawlessness shall have been multiplied, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end, that one will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the earth, for a testimony to all the nations; and then will come the end." Matthew 24:3-14 Your questuion cannot be answered from this verse. Matthew 24 refers to a future time during the seven years immediately prior to the second advent. It deals mainly with Israel during Daniel’s seventieth week. Graeme Hunt http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~invictus
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Matthew 24:3-14 One of the wonderful things about this "prophecy" is that it can easily be applied to any time period in history, thus assuring that we will forever be plagued by a horde of day-counting nutcases, continually preaching that the End is just around the corner. While it may have been entertaining for a while, the joke has worn very thin over the last two thousand years. Give it up, guys. He’s dead – he’s not coming back any more than Elvis is.
===But Elvis has been seen by thousands of believers in Elvis!
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Matthew 24:3-14
One of the wonderful things about this "prophecy" is that it can easily be applied to any time period in history, thus assuring that we will forever be plagued by a horde of day-counting nutcases, continually preaching that the End is just around the corner. While it may have been entertaining for a while, the joke has worn very thin over the last two thousand years. Give it up, guys. He’s dead – he’s not coming back any more than Elvis is. -Curt Visit the Hall of Failed Prophecies: http://www.primenet.com/~heuvelc/skeptic/predictions.htm
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Matthew 24:3-14 One of the wonderful things about this "prophecy" is that it can easily be applied to any time period in history, thus assuring that we will forever be plagued by a horde of day-counting nutcases, continually preaching that the End is just around the corner. While it may have been entertaining for a while, the joke has worn very thin over the last two thousand years. Give it up, guys. He’s dead – he’s not coming back any more than Elvis is.
No, it can’t. See Matthew 25. Matthew 24 continues on into 25, this division of verses came centuries late and is arbitrary. In Matthew 25, you will see that jesus speaks of gathering the nation, seperating the sheep from the goats and sending goats to hell, his sheep to heaven. That is, the judgement day. "This generation" of Matthew 24, Luke 21 and Mark 13 is literal, it means what it says. See Matthew 16:27-8. Judgement day. All men to be judged according to their works. When? "Some of those standing here will not taste of death til they see the son of man come into his kingdom. That is, judgement day is to occur within the lifetimes of those standing there hearing him prophecizing that he would soon come into the kingdom of god and preside over judgement day. The prophesies, put into his mouth by these anonymous writers, failed. Christianity is based on 1900 years of extreme intellectual dishonesty, pretending that these verse do not say what they plainly say. The question is, why is it that religion creates idiocy and an aversion to obvious truths. Amazingly, almost no scientific work has been done on this distressing tendency of the human mind. Pope Charles SubGenius Pope of Houston Slack! More deep stupidity of religion to ponder upon. Testing the Bible FAQ Christianity is one of the few religions that can actually be tested scientifically. Testing claims is the very essence of science and is why science works so well. Testing discards errors. The New Testament represents Jesus as making claims that can readily be tested. Below are four NT texts that are testable, and that fail such testing, showing that Christianity cannot be true. Mark 11:22-3 22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have Faith in God. 23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that these things he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. Jesus promises obvious and spectacular miracle working abilities to those who "shall not doubt in his heart". But it does not work. Nobody gets "whatever he saith" merely from lacking doubt. Nobody moves mountains or similar such tricks. Matthew 21:21 21 And all things, whatsoever you ask in prayer, believing, you shall recieve. Nobody gets all they ask in prayer, as promised by Jesus. John 14:12-14 12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13 And whatever ye shall ask in my name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the son. 14 If ye ask anything in my name, I will do it. Nobody changes water to wine, finds his tax money in a fish, feeds thousands with a few fishes and loaves, walks on water. Much less betters these works. Nobody gets "whatever ye shall ask" despite this promise, even asking in the name of Jesus. Matthew 18:18-19 19 Verily I say unto you, if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them. No two Christians get "any thing they shall ask" despite this solemn promise from Jesus. These are easily testable and unmistakable promises from Jesus, alledged son of God, as found readily in the New Testament. These promises are not attainable. Thus Jesus was wrong, the New Testament is wrong, all of Christianity is based on errors. If one cannot trust the solemn promises of Jesus that can readily be tested, obviously, nobody can trust those not so readibly testable, such as the existance of heaven or the claim only through Jesus can one get there. Seeing how badly readily testable claims of Jesus fail, it is safe to assume all other promises are equally false, equally erroneous. Christianity is simply another superstition, nothing more. These simple verses, easily tested, prove it. William C. Barwell 4-6-96
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"And as he was sitting on the mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, Tell us, when will these things be? And what is the sign of your coming and of the end of the age? And answering, Jesus said to them, See that not any lead you astray. For many will come in my name, saying, I am the Christ. And they will cause many to err. But you are going to hear of wars and rumors of wars. See, do not be disturbed. For all things must take place, but the end is not yet. For nation will be raised against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and plagues and earthquakes against many places. But all these are a beginning of throes. Then they will deliver you up to affliction, and will kill you; and you will be hated by all nations for my name
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