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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Big flapping red flag(AND I MEAN GARGANTUAN)#3: IRAQ…. What the hell did this country have to do with anything??? The Bush Administration – along with it’s Public Affairs Bureau(aka The Fox News Channel) had 80% of Americans shitting bricks scared of an imminent attack by Saddam Hussein. Not to mention the belief by 70% of those people that Iraqis planned and executed the Sept.11th attacks. The real reason for Iraq, my "bretheren" was to take the heat off of close Bush family friends – the Saudi royal family and its close relatives: The bin Ladens. Now is that the single biggest faith-based act of FORGIVENESS ever performed by a U.S. President?? WOW!!! …and in the process GWB also managed to grab ahold of 12 % of the Planet’s crude oil reserves which *just happen* to lie beneath much of Northern Iraq. How convenient eh..? unfortunatly we are running out of oil too http://www.peakoil.org/
In the 1920’s, we were running out of coal, now we have 200 years worth. In the 1970’s, we were heading for an ice age, now we are looking at global warming. In the 1950’s, people ate margarine instead of butter, now we eat butter instead of margarine. In the 1960’s, we started exercising because Americans were fat, now Americans they are really fat. In the 1960’s we started the Great society to eliminate poverty, now we have spent trillions and there is more poverty than we started with. — May God Bless You Michael GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL. We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?" We’re returning to our roots.
That response reminds me of the guy who one day decided to look up his family tree…when he did so a chimp took-a-shi+ atop his head….. Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..? There you go.
Bada-Bing ! duke ***** Matthew 22 14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen." *****
If that above is really the case, then the arrogant host of that party can go f–k himself and his birthday cake on sabbath saturday/sunday whatever fits his/her/it’s persuasion.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?" We’re returning to our roots. That response reminds me of the guy who one day decided to look up his family tree…when he did so a chimp took-a-shi+ atop his head…..
Only if he was a fundie evolutionists would a chimp be at the top of his tree. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..? There you go. Bada-Bing ! duke ***** Matthew 22 14 "For many are invited, but few are chosen." ***** If that above is really the case, then the arrogant host of that party can go f–k himself and his birthday cake on sabbath saturday/sunday whatever fits his/her/it’s persuasion.
– May God Bless You Michael GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL. We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?" Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..? No, because you didn’t ask a question. You made a statement. I guess to you or from you, that is a "simple" question, meaning a question from a simple person. Your knowledge of America and freedom is very lacking. Sure many American textbook does not care about genocide and slavery contribute to the american freedom. The freedom is slavery for other. White freedom is a black slavery. White freedom is Indian genocide. Without black slavery and Indian genocide, I don’t think American was able to found it root. There is no way American acheivement was posssible without killing mass indian and enslaving mass africans. This obviously not about christian or not. It’s about racism!!!!!
Spoken like a true multiculural Christophobic anti-American bigot. — May God Bless You Michael GROWING OLDER IS MANDATORY. GROWING UP IS OPTIONAL. We make a Living by what we get, We make a Life by what we give.
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TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?"
PLEASE HARVIE- Don’t call them "Christian Republicans"!!! I’m with you here but you have committed a whopper of an oxymoron. First of all, not all Christians are or vote Republican, and without qualification modern Republican Ideology is decidedly UN-Christian. And George, (who actually won the election this time!) is not a Christian. <crickets, please He may evoke the Lord’s name and and pronounce blessings on this person or that country. But his DEEDS, both before entering office and during, and those deeds of prior Bushes, render his pastorly prattle moot. I encourage people from every "red" state in this last election to visit www.bushandsaudis.com and see just what a "Christian" their esteemed leader truly is. Big flapping red flag #1 – Sept. 14 2001: "upper officials" authorize flights to escort Saudi officials and family members – including bin Ladens – out of the U.S. "for their safety". Big flapping red flag #2 – 2002: White House opposes independent Sept.11 Commission to investigate the attacks. The commission that finally developed was one consisting of board members hand-picked by none other than -GWB himself. Big flapping red flag(AND I MEAN GARGANTUAN)#3: IRAQ…. What the hell did this country have to do with anything??? The Bush Administration – along with it’s Public Affairs Bureau(aka The Fox News Channel) had 80% of Americans shitting bricks scared of an imminent attack by Saddam Hussein. Not to mention the belief by 70% of those people that Iraqis planned and executed the Sept.11th attacks. The real reason for Iraq, my "bretheren" was to take the heat off of close Bush family friends – the Saudi royal family and its close relatives: The bin Ladens. Now is that the single biggest faith-based act of FORGIVENESS ever performed by a U.S. President?? WOW!!! Forgive your friends and business partners. Let them off the hook after a relative of theirs shattered the economic and military hearts of the USA! God have mercy on your soul, "George", cause you and your daddy are gonna need every ounce of mercy when you get to those pearly gates and your names aren’t in that Book! -CC
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Big flapping red flag(AND I MEAN GARGANTUAN)#3: IRAQ…. What the hell did this country have to do with anything??? The Bush Administration – along with it’s Public Affairs Bureau(aka The Fox News Channel) had 80% of Americans shitting bricks scared of an imminent attack by Saddam Hussein. Not to mention the belief by 70% of those people that Iraqis planned and executed the Sept.11th attacks. The real reason for Iraq, my "bretheren" was to take the heat off of close Bush family friends – the Saudi royal family and its close relatives: The bin Ladens. Now is that the single biggest faith-based act of FORGIVENESS ever performed by a U.S. President?? WOW!!!
…and in the process GWB also managed to grab ahold of 12 % of the Planet’s crude oil reserves which *just happen* to lie beneath much of Northern Iraq. How convenient eh..? unfortunatly we are running out of oil too http://www.peakoil.org/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hi Bob The bible is the foundation of many religions, denominations, sects and cults. Each interprets it differently according to their indoctrination. Likewise, the knowledge bank of science has been leaned upon to have it collapse with errors. My point is that both of these "halls of knowledge" have resisted change. They have outcast or murdered those who were "legends in their own time" which brought forward new truths. Likewise on both sides, there are those of blind allegiance which rely on the things they trust as being true, without actually understanding it properly. Truth is the goal. This means parts of science which are beyond all doubt and speculation, and things of God which are beyond doubt and speculation. That all things must be tested. Before you write me off, as one of them or one of those, or one of them with a holy donnut and red hat (red dwarf), consider these few things which are amazing… If we apply number values to the English language, based on their position in the alphabet, we get some very interesting results which show that English was designed to have these values. So bear with me, A=1 and Z=26. I assume you follow the logic in between time, else we will have a problem. Doing this we get some very intriguing values… Jesus, Messiah, Cross, Gospel, The King, Jewish, English and Gematria all have the exact same value. Gematria is the study of words with numerical values. Also Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, Jesus is Lord and Lord of Hosts all have the same value as each other. For these to have the exact same value means that English was developed with at least computer type calculating abilities. What it points to is God created the languages. There is much more than this, but surely this is enough to get you considering the factors? It shows that Jesus was more than just a myth and more than just any man. Before you right me off as a religious person/Jesus Freak, I would like you to consider that modern christianity is not the original message of Jesus. Jesus came to set us free from religion, bigotry and hatred, and point us towards self respect, respect of our fellow man, even going as far as to love our enemies, and therefore win them over. Of going the extra mile to win people over peacefully. Turning the other cheek to stop the revenge cycle, and again win the peace.
All languages have a common root, according to Scripture, and gematria of the Hebrew and Greek are pretty solid proofs of the Word of God being the Word of God. I have not found gematria of English to be as reliable, however. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – But we find that the so called followers of Jesus justify violence in God’s name. If their freedom was worth breaking all the principles of Jesus to keep it, then is it really freedom? There is a prophecy in the last book of the bible, the book of Revelation, chapter 13:18 talks about an anti christ (known to those which understand the context) known as the beast. His name adds up to 666. This is a sign from God to warn us of this false christianity. For anti in the Greek means, false and counterfeit. "Mr G W Bush" = 666 in the above English code when multiplied by 6… there is much more on this… but so does also "US of America" = 666, "Mark of Beast" = 666, "Beast Test" = 666, "New York" = 666. So what does it all mean? It is unfolding that in Jesus name, the works of the anti christ are being done. In the name of Capitalism, greed is destroying lives and robbing people which do not have the killer instinct. It is showing that perhaps a warning about putting money above human rights and honesty is to sell out.
Capitalism is a word invented by atheists to separate a Christian compoment of free enterprise out of its moral basis in the Word of God, and is a counterfeit of Christian free enterprise which demands equal weights and measures. Once the separation of the small slice of free enterprise is removed and called capitalism which attaches itself to the religion of atheism as a base, it is no longer Christian, as the old Soviet Union struggles to implement ‘capitalism’ failing because it must embrace all of Christian free enterprise to have a hope of success. Americans are finally rejecting religious atheistic capitalism in this last election for Christian moral values including free enterprise, those which made America what it is. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Also in that code, "Dollar Sign" = 666, "Money Greed" = 666 and "See the Sign" = 666 Is 666 itself evil? No it is a sign from the creator. It points to many things as clues, with it eventually pointing to the man of sin. "Son of Sin" = 666 So we have extremes in the world, which rob us of the peace we could have. Religion extremes, of Islam and Christians which will kill in the name of their God (a heresy which is acceptable), then we have other religions of Greed with material wealth being their God, and the arrogance of science knowledge as being well and enough, making man as God. There are various combinations of these. For us to take a lesson from a simple society, we can look at a well adjusted family unit, where they love and respect each other, and look out for one another in love. That is the lesson which got lost in the domination of religions over men. That was Jesus message, to have a good conscience, which was in tune with love. To be rid of the bondage of false guilt by religious indoctrination, and to treat each other well with respect. So lets not stereo type someone because they believe in God, nor because they believe in the merits of Science. Truth and love and hope, with faith in the fact that if we hold to these, we will be doing well for all and for one. For as Jesus said, what we do to the least of mankind, we do unto him. Mohammed said that by treating each other well, we are treating God well. But it only works if we do it. If we would stop judging and start encouraging. If we would stopping imposing our ways on others and let them have the true freedom. If we would stop pushing people so much that they rebel and turn around and resent us. The test if a family has done well, is do they still speak to each other. Do they grow closer or apart? If it is not a closeness, then there is no more justification of that families ways. If fear is our only motivation, then this is hell on earth. If love is our motivation, then we desire to keep going with momentum which is good for all, for free thinking, for creativity and invention and so on. Religion will die, the bible says it will be destroyed and hated by all mankind. But lets not get Jesus and God mixed up with Religion. God love everyone. But mankind often says God hates others and writes it in stone. To read the bible, the greater picture and perspective must be seen. Then some parts will appear to be totally human and bigoted filled with negative emotion, and other parts will show the love God. Jesus tried to make this plain to them without being a heretic to them. He said there are many things I have to tell you, but you are not yet ready for them. And at that time, the Jews thought God loved only them. Then along came the visions and the gentiles being accepted into the fold. The message of Jesus was for all to be children of God, brothers and sisters of the whole. And yet religion stuffed that up again and again and again. http://beast666.webhop.info PEace Since you choose to use one of our founding father as an example to further your point I have a challenge for you. Open up your history book and re-read the quotes and letters written by all our founding fathers and early presidents including Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, ect. And see if you don’t see just how important there Christian faith was to there success and the success of this nation. Then take a minute out of your day and thank God you live in a free nation where you get to voice your opinion and not somewhere like Afghanistan or Iraq. God Bless You and have a great day. Success and freedom of speech are nothing to do with imaginary gods. Those people above would have done what they did in the name of mickey mouse if they had to – they were just following the theme of the day, which has little changed, except more and more folks today are cringing at the sight of their fellow humans praying to a ‘nothing’ Bob humanist brit. Hong kong I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. [Richard Dawkins] I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls." [Albert Einstein] Sir Isaac Newton, the genius and founder of physics was a Christian believer and a bible scholar. He believed that God created the scientific laws that he was discovering. The founder of Einstein’s profession, physics, would have considered him a fool. …and how
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TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?"
We’re returning to our roots. Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..?
There you go. duke ***** Matthew 22 14"For many are invited, but few are chosen." *****
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Hi Bob The bible is the foundation of many religions, denominations, sects and cults. Each interprets it differently according to their indoctrination. Likewise, the knowledge bank of science has been leaned upon to have it collapse with errors. My point is that both of these "halls of knowledge" have resisted change. They have outcast or murdered those who were "legends in their own time" which brought forward new truths. Likewise on both sides, there are those of blind allegiance which rely on the things they trust as being true, without actually understanding it properly. Truth is the goal. This means parts of science which are beyond all doubt and speculation, and things of God which are beyond doubt and speculation. That all things must be tested. Before you write me off, as one of them or one of those, or one of them with a holy donnut and red hat (red dwarf), consider these few things which are amazing… If we apply number values to the English language, based on their position in the alphabet, we get some very interesting results which show that English was designed to have these values. So bear with me, A=1 and Z=26. I assume you follow the logic in between time, else we will have a problem. Doing this we get some very intriguing values… Jesus, Messiah, Cross, Gospel, The King, Jewish, English and Gematria all have the exact same value. Gematria is the study of words with numerical values. Also Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ, Jesus is Lord and Lord of Hosts all have the same value as each other. For these to have the exact same value means that English was developed with at least computer type calculating abilities. What it points to is God created the languages. There is much more than this, but surely this is enough to get you considering the factors? It shows that Jesus was more than just a myth and more than just any man. Before you right me off as a religious person/Jesus Freak, I would like you to consider that modern christianity is not the original message of Jesus. Jesus came to set us free from religion, bigotry and hatred, and point us towards self respect, respect of our fellow man, even going as far as to love our enemies, and therefore win them over. Of going the extra mile to win people over peacefully. Turning the other cheek to stop the revenge cycle, and again win the peace. But we find that the so called followers of Jesus justify violence in God’s name. If their freedom was worth breaking all the principles of Jesus to keep it, then is it really freedom? There is a prophecy in the last book of the bible, the book of Revelation, chapter 13:18 talks about an anti christ (known to those which understand the context) known as the beast. His name adds up to 666. This is a sign from God to warn us of this false christianity. For anti in the Greek means, false and counterfeit. "Mr G W Bush" = 666 in the above English code when multiplied by 6… there is much more on this… but so does also "US of America" = 666, "Mark of Beast" = 666, "Beast Test" = 666, "New York" = 666. So what does it all mean? It is unfolding that in Jesus name, the works of the anti christ are being done. In the name of Capitalism, greed is destroying lives and robbing people which do not have the killer instinct. It is showing that perhaps a warning about putting money above human rights and honesty is to sell out. Also in that code, "Dollar Sign" = 666, "Money Greed" = 666 and "See the Sign" = 666 Is 666 itself evil? No it is a sign from the creator. It points to many things as clues, with it eventually pointing to the man of sin. "Son of Sin" = 666 So we have extremes in the world, which rob us of the peace we could have. Religion extremes, of Islam and Christians which will kill in the name of their God (a heresy which is acceptable), then we have other religions of Greed with material wealth being their God, and the arrogance of science knowledge as being well and enough, making man as God. There are various combinations of these. For us to take a lesson from a simple society, we can look at a well adjusted family unit, where they love and respect each other, and look out for one another in love. That is the lesson which got lost in the domination of religions over men. That was Jesus message, to have a good conscience, which was in tune with love. To be rid of the bondage of false guilt by religious indoctrination, and to treat each other well with respect. So lets not stereo type someone because they believe in God, nor because they believe in the merits of Science. Truth and love and hope, with faith in the fact that if we hold to these, we will be doing well for all and for one. For as Jesus said, what we do to the least of mankind, we do unto him. Mohammed said that by treating each other well, we are treating God well. But it only works if we do it. If we would stop judging and start encouraging. If we would stopping imposing our ways on others and let them have the true freedom. If we would stop pushing people so much that they rebel and turn around and resent us. The test if a family has done well, is do they still speak to each other. Do they grow closer or apart? If it is not a closeness, then there is no more justification of that families ways. If fear is our only motivation, then this is hell on earth. If love is our motivation, then we desire to keep going with momentum which is good for all, for free thinking, for creativity and invention and so on. Religion will die, the bible says it will be destroyed and hated by all mankind. But lets not get Jesus and God mixed up with Religion. God love everyone. But mankind often says God hates others and writes it in stone. To read the bible, the greater picture and perspective must be seen. Then some parts will appear to be totally human and bigoted filled with negative emotion, and other parts will show the love God. Jesus tried to make this plain to them without being a heretic to them. He said there are many things I have to tell you, but you are not yet ready for them. And at that time, the Jews thought God loved only them. Then along came the visions and the gentiles being accepted into the fold. The message of Jesus was for all to be children of God, brothers and sisters of the whole. And yet religion stuffed that up again and again and again. http://beast666.webhop.info PEace
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since you choose to use one of our founding father as an example to further your point I have a challenge for you. Open up your history book and re-read the quotes and letters written by all our founding fathers and early presidents including Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, ect. And see if you don’t see just how important there Christian faith was to there success and the success of this nation. Then take a minute out of your day and thank God you live in a free nation where you get to voice your opinion and not somewhere like Afghanistan or Iraq. God Bless You and have a great day. Success and freedom of speech are nothing to do with imaginary gods. Those people above would have done what they did in the name of mickey mouse if they had to – they were just following the theme of the day, which has little changed, except more and more folks today are cringing at the sight of their fellow humans praying to a ‘nothing’ Bob humanist brit. Hong kong I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. [Richard Dawkins] I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls." [Albert Einstein] Sir Isaac Newton, the genius and founder of physics was a Christian believer and a bible scholar. He believed that God created the scientific laws that he was discovering. The founder of Einstein’s profession, physics, would have considered him a fool. …and how right they would be, in regard to Gods, that is. Otherwise he was a giant of his time, a time in which theology permeated every strata of society "About the time of the End, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the prophecies, and insist on their literal interpretation in the midst of much clamor and opposition." –Sir Isaac Newton Manuel, Frank E. The Religion of Isaac Newton . Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1974. ISBN 0-19-826640-5. Read the book if you don’t believe he was a Christian. Well Sir Isaac was wrong and I ought to know, I went to the same school in Lincolnshire as he did. We used to climb up to a rear window in ‘The Old School’ building to gaze at his signature carved into a stone sill. Mind you, this carving could well have been as false as his Christian god. That gods never show is the strongest indication yet that they are simply the mental aberrations of superstitious man. Bob Humanist Brit. Hong Kong In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost
every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not
themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other
non-examiners, whose opinions – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – about them were not worth a brass farthing. [Mark Twain] ‘there are only two things that have no end, human stupidity and the universe,
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Actually whites have been the victims of some of the worst cases of genocide known to man, and at the hands of other whites, more so than any other race. Whites killed Whites, Indians killed Indians, Blacks killed Blacks, and so on and so on and so on. We’re all guilty of sin everyone period. As for Democracy I’ll guarantee you that there is such a thing as a Democracy in this world, in many countries through out it. I would be real curious to here where you live that you don’t consider it a democratic land.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Those founding papa didn’t order to stop genocide Indian and stop ordered black slaverly even thougth LIncoln did stop slavery. WE shoudl ask how many Indians were massacred by these founding papa. I simply don’t believe this crap about how amrica is free and democratic blah blah blah. It may be free and democratic for white race since they were not victim of genocide and slavery yet they got the land by ethnic cleansing of native peopole. I believe American freedom and democracy is total flaw. I believe it’s just an another White Christian supremacist propaganda.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?" Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..? No, because you didn’t ask a question. You made a statement. I guess to you or from you, that is a "simple" question, meaning a question from a simple person. Your knowledge of America and freedom is very lacking.
Sure many American textbook does not care about genocide and slavery contribute to the american freedom. The freedom is slavery for other. White freedom is a black slavery. White freedom is Indian genocide. Without black slavery and Indian genocide, I don’t think American was able to found it root. There is no way American acheivement was posssible without killing mass indian and enslaving mass africans. This obviously not about christian or not. It’s about racism!!!!!
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Since you choose to use one of our founding father as an example to further your point I have a challenge for you. Open up your history book and re-read the quotes and letters written by all our founding fathers and early presidents including Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, ect. And see if you don’t see just how important there Christian faith was to there success and the success of this nation. Then take a minute out of your day and thank God you live in a free nation where you get to voice your opinion and not somewhere like Afghanistan or Iraq. God Bless You and have a great day.
Those founding papa didn’t order to stop genocide Indian and stop ordered black slaverly even thougth LIncoln did stop slavery. WE shoudl ask how many Indians were massacred by these founding papa. I simply don’t believe this crap about how amrica is free and democratic blah blah blah. It may be free and democratic for white race since they were not victim of genocide and slavery yet they got the land by ethnic cleansing of native peopole. I believe American freedom and democracy is total flaw. I believe it’s just an another White Christian supremacist propaganda. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – TO ALL YOU CHRISTIAN REPUBLICANS WHO RE-ELECTED GW BUSH LAST WEEK I ASK YOU TO ANSWER ME ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: "What is the difference, between the Islamic Taliban who ran things under an Islamic quasi-dictatorship in Afganistan up until a Year or two ago, and the Christian Americans who now feel they have a "mandate" to foster and hoist their form of beliefs in the USA via George W Bush and his right wing stooges in Congress, to make a quasi-Religious State here in the USA….?" Can you Christians reading this honestly answer this one for me..? Please DO NOT tell me that, when you really HONESTLY consider this question, how you who want this USA to be a "Christian Nation", cannot see how your desire to create the same, are in fact making your own version of a "religious State", which the end product would bear striking similarity to what the Taliban had going for them in Afganistan up until 2002. (scary!) —- " Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State." – Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Since you choose to use one of our founding father as an example to further your point I have a challenge for you. Open up your history book and re-read the quotes and letters written by all our founding fathers and early presidents including Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, ect. And see if you don’t see just how important there Christian faith was to there success and the success of this nation. Then take a minute out of your day and thank God you live in a free nation where you get to voice your opinion and not somewhere like Afghanistan or Iraq. God Bless You and have a great day. Success and freedom of speech are nothing to do with imaginary gods. Those people above would have done what they did in the name of mickey mouse if they had to – they were just following the theme of the day, which has little changed, except more and more folks today are cringing at the sight of their fellow humans praying to a ‘nothing’ Bob humanist brit. Hong kong I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world. [Richard Dawkins] I cannot conceive of a God who rewards and punishes his creatures, or has a will of the type of which we are conscious in ourselves. An individual who should survive his physical death is also beyond my comprehension; such notions are for the fears or absurd egoism of feeble souls." [Albert Einstein] Sir Isaac Newton, the genius and founder of physics was a Christian believer and a bible scholar. He believed that God created the scientific laws that he was discovering. The founder of Einstein’s profession, physics, would have considered him a fool. "About the time of the End, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the prophecies, and insist on their literal interpretation in the midst of much clamor and opposition." –Sir Isaac Newton Manuel, Frank E. The Religion of Isaac Newton . Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1974. ISBN 0-19-826640-5. Read the book if you don’t believe he was a Christian. ‘there are only two things that have no end, human stupidity and the universe, and I’m not sure about the universe’ [Albert Einstein] You may fool all the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can
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