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I have to go to confession as the Ce Ce has angered me. Crossbearer
Good. You need to confess your hatred. And it’s CeCe. One word, two syllables. I’m sorry that’s too much for you to handle. I am also sorry that you feel nothing for the victims of this tragedy. God’s vengeance will come down on you for your apathy towards your fellow humans. CeCe — I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. –Galileo Galilei
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise? Then maybe we can become "youse guys" :0) I don’t think that religious jingoism is a part of any healthy spiritual life. So I guess we’re in the "youse guys" boat. Wow, jingoism! Big word. I had to look it up. I believe patriotism and Christianity go hand in hand. I see no problem with it. At my K of C meetings, we have both the American and the Papal flags displayed.
Patriotism does not equal jingoism. Jingoism is where your patriotism automatically includes having to bash other peoples’ countries. Religious jingoism is having to bash other peoples’ religions in order to feel good about your own, a sad commentary on one’s faith indeed.
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<Howdy CeCe !! <I can think of three possible reasons you have come to this newsgroup. <1 – you are nobly attempting to show us the error of our Catholic ways so that we can be TRULY saved. We welcome this type of discussion if it is a civil one. This is simply not true. <2 – you want to learn more before you convert to Catholicism. Yeah !!! She is a cradle Catholic Michel. <3 – you are trying to pick fights with us because you disagree with us. 
She’s not trying to pick a fight with anyone. She does disagree and that is her right just as much as it is ours. <It is obvious that you are only interested in picking fights. Again, not true. <With your departure from this ng, you will take your hate with you. CeCe doesn’t hate anyone. Can you blame her for expressing her views as she sees them? <Isn’t there an anti-Cath ng out there where you can find friends? CeCe is not ant-Catholic. Let me be clear on this point. Do not judge her on the posts she responds to in the same fashion as being attacked for her beliefs. <I hereby invite you to leave. How very kind of you (major sarcasm). Leave this news group? I don’t think that was very nice. I for one do not want CeCe to leave this group. She’s Catholic just as you and I are the same. Being Catholic doesn’t mean we can’t disagree with people. That is our God-given right, not only as Catholics but also as human beings. Monica "Our greatest vision comes from our heart. It allows us to see everything, even if we are blind."
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "CeCe" wrote … I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? + Sometimes we already know what they will say. + Sometimes we don’t agree with them politically. + It doesn’t mean we become: "YOU PEOPLE…" I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"? I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise?
That is your choice. My choice is all he has to offer is less than the full truth. I’ll listen to the Holy Father, the Vicar of Christ. As for being you or youse people, I am neither. St. Paul says that we do not know why things happen; however, God Does. There is a reason and God knows the reason. It is for us to trust in God; therefore, I am not upset, confused , in shock or any other psychobabble being offered. I have the Mass and Christ to console me. I have to go to confession as the Ce Ce has angered me. Crossbearer
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy CeCe !! I can think of three possible reasons you have come to this newsgroup. 1 – you are nobly attempting to show us the error of our Catholic ways so that we can be TRULY saved. We welcome this type of discussion if it is a civil one. 2 – you want to learn more before you convert to Catholicism. Yeah !!! 3 – you are trying to pick fights with us because you disagree with us. It is obvious that you are only interested in picking fights. With your departure from this ng, you will take your hate with you. Isn’t there an anti-Cath ng out there where you can find friends? I hereby invite you to leave. alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic michel
Howdy you fucking asshole. I am a catholic you idiot. Cradle catholic at that. Born and raised, 12 years of catholic school, go to Mass every Sunday and receive the Eucharist too. So shove you invitation up your bigoted ass. CeCe — I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. –Galileo Galilei
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Dear CeCe: I know you hate being attacked for what you believe and many have been doing this to you over the past several months, with reasons that disturb me greatly. When I read a few of your comments and see you using the word "fornication under the court of the king," I ask myself what do you want to gain from this? You know how I feel about you CeCe, and I just don’t think this does anything for your cause. We all get angry on this group and it saddens me deeply. Instead of this being a place for us to share what we feel and what we truly believe, and our great love for God, it has become a place to bash each other verbally. I pray that someday folks will wake up, look around at what’s happening in our Country and the world, and hopefully one day rid the world of hatred and replace it with love. Monica "Our greatest vision comes from our heart. It allows us to see everything, even if we are blind."
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I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant.
John said to him, "Teacher, we saw a man casting out demons in your name, and we forbade him, because he was not following us." But Jesus said, "Do not forbid him; for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able soon after to speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is for us." Mark 9:38ff I also caught it last night on a replay: very good. — The old religionists tortured men physically for a moral truth. The new realists torture men morally for a physical truth. Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Howdy CeCe !! I can think of three possible reasons you have come to this newsgroup. 1 – you are nobly attempting to show us the error of our Catholic ways so that we can be TRULY saved. We welcome this type of discussion if it is a civil one. 2 – you want to learn more before you convert to Catholicism. Yeah !!! 3 – you are trying to pick fights with us because you disagree with us. It is obvious that you are only interested in picking fights. With your departure from this ng, you will take your hate with you. Isn’t there an anti-Cath ng out there where you can find friends? I hereby invite you to leave. alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic michel Howdy you fucking asshole. I am a catholic you idiot. Cradle catholic at that. Born and raised, 12 years of catholic school, go to Mass every Sunday and receive the Eucharist too. So shove you invitation up your bigoted ass. CeCe
So sweet, so sensitive. The kind of woman you want to bring home to your parents…**sssiiiggghhh**….. Bruce
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"Bruce LaMore" wrote I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"? + Uh oh…. + A Catholic who likes Billy Graham….. + I’m not sure you can belong to the same "you people" club. + Of course you are always welcome in the "alan ferrit liars club." + Lots of members. Don’t forget next Thursday is Pot Luck night. SL is bring ribs. Will will bring the salad, I’ve got desert, and you bring the Lone Star Long Necks.
I prefer Saint Arnold’s beer. www.saintarnold.com Made by some good Catholic boys in Houston. Now would be the time for Octoberfest… Bruce — Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. –Benjamin Franklin
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? CeCe Who holds the full truth? Why listen to half truths? As Christ told his Apostles, let them be! As for a being a bigot, your action exposes you for what you are!
You are calling me a bigot? Ha! You won’t even listen to the words of Christ, who was a Jew. People like you are dangerous religious zealots. You are no better than the terrorists. Remember, they believe they are right too. You are a jackass and will burn in hell for your bigotry and hatred. CeCe — I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. –Galileo Galilei
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I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise? Then maybe we can become "youse guys" :0) I don’t think that religious jingoism is a part of any healthy spiritual life. So I guess we’re in the "youse guys" boat.
Wow, jingoism! Big word. I had to look it up. I believe patriotism and Christianity go hand in hand. I see no problem with it. At my K of C meetings, we have both the American and the Papal flags displayed. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise? Then maybe we can become "youse guys" :0)
I don’t think that religious jingoism is a part of any healthy spiritual life. So I guess we’re in the "youse guys" boat.
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"Bruce LaMore" wrote I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"?
+ Uh oh…. + A Catholic who likes Billy Graham….. + I’m not sure you can belong to the same "you people" club. + Of course you are always welcome in the "alan ferrit liars club." + Lots of members. Don’t forget next Thursday is Pot Luck night. SL is bring ribs. Will will bring the salad, I’ve got desert, and you bring the Lone Star Long Necks.
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"Michel Cazayoux" wrote … Howdy CeCe !! I can think of three possible reasons you have come to this newsgroup. 3 – you are trying to pick fights with us because you disagree with us. It is obvious that you are only interested in picking fights. I hereby invite you to leave.
+ Excellent observation, Michel…. + Looks like Michel will soon be invited into another club: The cece "plonk" club. This club is really starting to grow fast.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? CeCe
Who holds the full truth? Why listen to half truths? As Christ told his Apostles, let them be! As for a being a bigot, your action exposes you for what you are!
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"CeCe" wrote … I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it?
+ Hey, lighten up, cece…. + I didn’t listen to him either. + I also didn’t listen to the cardinal who spoke. + I never listen to Faraquan, Oral Roberts or Pat robertson. + I never listen to Jimmy Swaggart, Tammy Fay, or saddam. + I never listen to Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton or Dan Rather. + Sometimes we already know what they will say. + Sometimes we don’t agree with them politically. + It doesn’t mean we become: "YOU PEOPLE…"
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "CeCe" wrote … I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? + Sometimes we already know what they will say. + Sometimes we don’t agree with them politically. + It doesn’t mean we become: "YOU PEOPLE…" I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"? I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise?
Then maybe we can become "youse guys" :0) Bruce — Blessed are the flexible, for they shall not be bent out of shape.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "CeCe" wrote … I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? + Sometimes we already know what they will say. + Sometimes we don’t agree with them politically. + It doesn’t mean we become: "YOU PEOPLE…" I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"?
I guess I’m not either, then, Bruce. Billy Graham may not play for our team, but what’s wrong with taking comfort from the words of another Christian when his words are wise?
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Howdy CeCe !! I can think of three possible reasons you have come to this newsgroup. 1 – you are nobly attempting to show us the error of our Catholic ways so that we can be TRULY saved. We welcome this type of discussion if it is a civil one. 2 – you want to learn more before you convert to Catholicism. Yeah !!! 3 – you are trying to pick fights with us because you disagree with us. It is obvious that you are only interested in picking fights. With your departure from this ng, you will take your hate with you. Isn’t there an anti-Cath ng out there where you can find friends? I hereby invite you to leave. alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic michel
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? CeCe — I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us
with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – –Galileo Galilei
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – "CeCe" wrote … I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? + Hey, lighten up, cece…. + I didn’t listen to him either. + I also didn’t listen to the cardinal who spoke. + I never listen to Faraquan, Oral Roberts or Pat robertson. + I never listen to Jimmy Swaggart, Tammy Fay, or saddam. + I never listen to Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton or Dan Rather. + Sometimes we already know what they will say. + Sometimes we don’t agree with them politically. + It doesn’t mean we become: "YOU PEOPLE…"
I like Billy Graham. Does that mean I’m not one of the "you people"? Bruce
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant. So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? CeCe
What a strange response. What a lost person you are. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it.
Nope, I’m not protestant.
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I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it. Nope, I’m not protestant.
So that means you can’t listen to the words anyone who is a protestant? What about Jews? Can you listen to their words? Christ was a Jew. Guess you don’t listen to him either. It is your type of bigotry and hatred that led to these unspeakable acts of terror. When are you people ever going to get it? CeCe — I do not feel obligated to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forego their use. –Galileo Galilei
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I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it.
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I suppose a lot of you heard Billy Graham’s sermon from the National Cathedral in Washington D.C. I really, really liked it.
Yes, he makes one think. There are not too many like him. — Bruce "Soli Deo gloria"
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