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in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: Or like John, he also worries when people threaten his life, but can’t be concerned when people condemn all non-catholics to death…
I can clarify this issue once and for all. Cindy is not Suzanne. Cindy is my daughter and has never even met Suzanne, nor have I. Neither one of us have ever talked with her in person. We don’t even live in the same part of the country as Suzanne. It is not unusual to have Christians of like minds or gifts when the Holy Spirit is involved. Donna – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – JESUS IS THE ROCK God doesn’t call the qualified; He qualifies the called
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: Or like John, he also worries when people threaten his life, but can’t be concerned when people condemn all non-catholics to death… I can clarify this issue once and for all. Cindy is not Suzanne. Cindy is my daughter and has never even met Suzanne, nor have I. Neither one of us have ever talked with her in person. We don’t even live in the same part of the country as Suzanne. It is not unusual to have Christians of like minds or gifts when the Holy Spirit is involved.
It is unusual to be identified with such a complete idiot as Susanne.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – in these here little old Usenet News’FROUPS: Or like John, he also worries when people threaten his life, but can’t be concerned when people condemn all non-catholics to death… I can clarify this issue once and for all. Cindy is not Suzanne. Cindy is my daughter and has never even met Suzanne, nor have I. Neither one of us have ever talked with her in person. We don’t even live in the same part of the country as Suzanne. It is not unusual to have Christians of like minds or gifts when the Holy Spirit is involved. It is unusual to be identified with such a complete idiot as Susanne.
Be careful here Alan, as there have been many down through history that most would put into the category of what they consider idiots that have proved to be otherwise; they were the wisemen instead. And the ones who come out closer to being an idiot are the very ones who called the wise men idiots to begin with. The adage "put brain in gear before engaging mouth" might be appropriate here. Donna
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"But I alone am doltish and rustic. [I have nothing that I want to do. I am so muddled and oafish that I appear to know nothing at all.
I couldn't have said it better Dolt. Sometimes you post the strangest things. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -Thus the text says, 'doltish and rustic.'] I alone wish to be different from others and so value drawing sustenance from the mother. ['Drawing sustenance from the mother' refers to the root of life the Dao {ie. the Judaeo-Christian 7th day Sabbath (Torah) based Kabbalah vMeme / Moment Homoiotic Noumenon}. Everyone foresakes the roots from which the common folk draw sustenance and instead values blossoms [hua] decorating the branch tips [superficial frivolity]. Thus the text says, ‘I alone wish to be different from others.’]" [Lao Tzu's (c 604 BCE) Dao (the way) Te (of virtue) Ching (and causality) with commentary by Wang Bi (226-229 CE) as #20 - Left without Language/ Different From the Vulgar] - dolf There’s no need for pain killers Dolt. Noone will notice. QOLON NOTE: As you read further the text says, "There is no greater disaster than having no viable opponent. If one has no viable opponent, he will soon lose my [the Laozi's] treasures" which means that you ought not under-estimate your opponent.
There’s no greater disaster than not being viable. It isn’t necessary to find an opponent. They tend to find you. If one doesn’t receive an apology from them for past impugnity then this their reputed present statement is untrue: "Every human being deserves our reverence and love, from the beginning to the end of the continuum of
life." The introductory sentence doesn’t make much sense but the quote isn’t too bad. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – And they will lose the three treasures: {ie. kindness, frugality and no presumption that one is first among all under Heaven}. Also, the Dao also says, "My words are very easy to understand, very easy to practice, yet none among all under Heaven can understand them, and none can practice them." Meaning according to the interpretation given by Wang Bi (226-249 CE): "You can understand them without leaving your gate or peering out your window. Thus the text says they ‘are easy to understand.’ You can fulfill them without taking deliberate action. Thus the text says they are ‘very easy to practice.’ But people are deluded by greed, so the text says, ‘none… can understand them,’ and people are befuddled by honor and reward, so the text says, ‘none can practice them.’ My words have a progenitor, and my undertakings have a sovereign. ‘Progenitor’ refers to the progenitor of the myriad of things, and ’sovereign’ refers to the master of the myriad affairs. It is just because there is no understanding of this that they do not understand me. Because his words have this progenitor and his undertakings have this sovereign, if there were people who understood how this is so, they could not help but understand him. As long as those who understand me are rare, someone like me is precious." [#70 - Difficulty in Knowing How/ Difficult to Understand] KangaRu / Grapple – The Torah’s 10 Commandments (1550 BCE) & Tao Te Ching (c. 604 BCE) A brief comment needs to be made on the perspective concerning the genre of literature known as the Torah (eg. Eden as tributary to 4 rivers (Pishon / Ganges {fish hook} in India, Gihon {valley of Grace}, Tigris {an arrow}, Euphrates {that makes fruitful}) to which Providence is geo-centrically mapped as Genesis) and it’s consistency with the orient worldview and relation to the biblical ruler for how the 10 Commandments should be numbered. The Theory of Number is actually derived from the 10 Commandments as decalogue (ie. things received), thus you’ll find the conception of the individual laws follows the sequence of number and their philosophical and chronological conception of number. In relation to the Supernal attribution of God as conveyed by the first three Commandments: #1 = Nature contains Nature {ie. The God who took Israel {he that sees God; he that prevails with God} out of the House of Bondage–Egypt {that troubles or oppresses; anguish}} #2 = Nature rejoices in its Nature {ie. Having no likeness preceeding} #3 = Nature surmounts Nature {ie. Who is neither sought nor spoken of in vanity} #58 – Political Reversal/ Adaptation to Change {Transforming Nature} #41 – Playing with Reversal/ Sameness in Difference {Autonomous Nature} the Chinese Philosopher Wang Bi (226-249 CE) equates this with the Dao that cannot be described in language, cannot be named and is unchangeable: "The way things come into existence and efficacy [gong] comes about is that things arise from the formless [wuxing] and efficacy emanates from the nameless [wuming]. The formless and the nameless [the Dao] is the progenitor of the myriad things. It is neither warm nor cool and makes neither the note gong nor the note shang [ie. it is not subject to the sense of touch or that of hearing]. You might listen for it, but it is impossible to get a sense of its sound; you might look for it, but it is impossible to get a sense of its appearance; you might try to understand what it is like, but it is impossible to get it in terms of understanding; or you might taste it, but it is impossible to get it in terms of flavour." [p 30] — #4 = Nature amended in its Nature {Nature contains Nature} Remember the Sabbath? #69 – Profound Use/ The Function of the Mysterious #5 = Act of Nature {Nature rejoices in its Nature} Honor Parents #9 – The Inconstancy of Achievement/ Practising Placidity #6 = Form of Nature {Nature surmounts Nature} No Murder #32 – Natural Guide/ The Virtue of Holiness #7 = Engendering Nature {Nature amended in its Nature} Avoid (Spiritual) Adultery #20 – Left without Language/ Different From the Vulgar #8 = Transforming Nature {Act of Nature} Don’t Steal #61 – Virtuosity at Using ‘Beneath’/ The Virtue of Humility #9 = Autonomous Nature {Form of Nature} Bear No False Witness #73 – Employing Deeming/ Daring to Act #10 = Totality of Nature {Engendering Nature} Do Not Covet #35 – Great Guiding Signs?/ The Virtue of Benevolence Number entries for the Judaeo-Christian 7th day Sabbath (Torah) based Kabbalah vMeme / Moment Homoiotic Noumenon are keyed to: Lao Tzu’s (b. 604 BCE) TAO (the way) TE (of virtue) CHING (& causality). For example, if I might further quote ‘#69 – Profound Use/ The Function of the Mysterious’ from Lao Tzu’s Tao-Te-Ching as interpreted by Wang Bi (226-249 CE) and translated by Richard Lynn
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