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Are you really free?
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"Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22425-41FABDE7-620@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net… > Are you really free?
free to do what Daniel? most things you can do if you really want too. you may get in trouble for some of the things but one is free to make desicions for themselves. you should obey God’s laws but one does not have too. though i try not to break them. and i am a firm believer in thou shalt not kill. i would never kill anyone. only God has the right to take life in my opinion. but what did you mean Daniel? sorry Daniel i have wandering thoughts sometimes. later anita
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Anita, You can get too literal about the Ten Commandments. I do not believe killing is always wrong, but that might be more Roman Catholic than it is Jewish. It might sometimes be called an "indulgence", if it serves God’s end. When you kill, you can also die, but I’m not as afraid to die as I used to be. I’ve matured quite a bit since John touched my hand. Daniel Urtiz
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"Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:22426-41FAC92A-192@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net… > Anita, > You can get too literal about the Ten Commandments. I do not believe > killing is always wrong, but that might be more Roman Catholic than it > is Jewish. It might sometimes be called an "indulgence", if it serves > God’s end. > When you kill, you can also die, but I’m not as afraid to die as I used > to be. I’ve matured quite a bit since John touched my hand. > Daniel Urtiz
Daniel, i aint really afraid to die either, but i would prefer not to do it at this time. i personally dont believe in killing Daniel. it is part of my basic belief system. for instance if a person was a mass murderer i think the correct punishment for them would be a life sentance not the death penalty. i think they should live the remainder of their days having to live with what they have done. killing them would be wrong in my opinion. two wrongs doesnt make a right. but that is just my opinion Daniel. you are entitled to your opionion Daniel. later anita , ps i hope you are feeling well today Daniel.
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Anita, I think someone has already killed. Their attitudes are inclined to doing it again. That’s not okay with me. Kill the killers. I am a Roman Catholic and I don’t like racists or control freaks. Daniel Urtiz
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"Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:21947-41FAE1B4-577@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net… > Anita, > I think someone has already killed. Their attitudes are inclined to > doing it again. That’s not okay with me. > Kill the killers. I am a Roman Catholic and I don’t like racists or > control freaks. > Daniel Urtiz
Daniel, i don’t like racists either. and i hope i aint a control freak as well. yes killers are likely to kill again , this is true. but what good does killing them do, why not just lock them up for life and make them think about what they have done. i would think that would be more of a punishment. but i respect your opinion Daniel, you are entitled to believe what you believe. i wouldnt try to change your mind on this. later anita
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"pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message
news:q0CKd.108234$w62.36461@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:21947-41FAE1B4-577@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net… >> Anita, >> I think someone has already killed. Their attitudes are inclined to >> doing it again. That’s not okay with me. >> Kill the killers. I am a Roman Catholic and I don’t like racists or >> control freaks. >> Daniel Urtiz > Daniel, > i don’t like racists either. > and i hope i aint a control freak as well. > yes killers are likely to kill again , this is true. but what good does > killing them do, why not just lock them up for life and make them think > about what they have done. i would think that would be more of a > punishment. > but i respect your opinion Daniel, you are entitled to believe what you > believe. i wouldnt try to change your mind on this. > later anita
How come you dont understand they enjoyed what they did and love to relive it over and over again in their minds? Even while locked up in prison. Its what turns them on. Its not something they feel bad about having done. Locking them up isnt punishment. Its free room and board. Troop
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"pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message
news:OjAKd.107661$w62.54788@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message > news:22426-41FAC92A-192@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net… >> Anita, >> You can get too literal about the Ten Commandments. I do not believe >> killing is always wrong, but that might be more Roman Catholic than it >> is Jewish. It might sometimes be called an "indulgence", if it serves >> God’s end. >> When you kill, you can also die, but I’m not as afraid to die as I used >> to be. I’ve matured quite a bit since John touched my hand. >> Daniel Urtiz > Daniel, > i aint really afraid to die either, but i would prefer not to do it at > this > time. > i personally dont believe in killing Daniel. it is part of my basic belief > system. for instance if a person was a mass murderer i think the correct > punishment for them would be a life sentance not the death penalty. i > think > they should live the remainder of their days having to live with what they > have done. killing them would be wrong in my opinion. two wrongs doesnt > make > a right. but that is just my opinion Daniel. > you are entitled to your opionion Daniel. > later anita , > ps i hope you are feeling well today Daniel.
You have a shallow view of serial killers motives. They would love to remain alive so they could recall all those gleefull moments when they plunged the knife into the chest of some young girl as they were orgasming into her. They liked what they did. The feel no guilt whatsoever. None. Its why they never stopped. Its why they did it in the first place. They enjoyed it and they replay it over and over again in their mind, in their sick, twisted, sexual fantasies. By following your opinion, you would be giving them exactly what they wish for, an endless time until their death to relive all the murders they committed. Troop
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"Trooper" <Troo…@gbronline.com> wrote in message
news:5LSdnWk4cIImImHcRVn-hQ@gbronline.com… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message > news:OjAKd.107661$w62.54788@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… > > "Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message > > news:22426-41FAC92A-192@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net… > >> Anita, > >> You can get too literal about the Ten Commandments. I do not believe > >> killing is always wrong, but that might be more Roman Catholic than it > >> is Jewish. It might sometimes be called an "indulgence", if it serves > >> God’s end. > >> When you kill, you can also die, but I’m not as afraid to die as I used > >> to be. I’ve matured quite a bit since John touched my hand. > >> Daniel Urtiz > > Daniel, > > i aint really afraid to die either, but i would prefer not to do it at > > this > > time. > > i personally dont believe in killing Daniel. it is part of my basic belief > > system. for instance if a person was a mass murderer i think the correct > > punishment for them would be a life sentance not the death penalty. i > > think > > they should live the remainder of their days having to live with what they > > have done. killing them would be wrong in my opinion. two wrongs doesnt > > make > > a right. but that is just my opinion Daniel. > > you are entitled to your opionion Daniel. > > later anita , > > ps i hope you are feeling well today Daniel. > You have a shallow view of serial killers motives. They would love to > remain alive so they could recall all those gleefull moments when they > plunged the knife into the chest of some young girl as they were orgasming > into her. They liked what they did. The feel no guilt whatsoever. None. > Its why they never stopped. Its why they did it in the first place. They > enjoyed it and they replay it over and over again in their mind, in their > sick, twisted, sexual fantasies. > By following your opinion, you would be giving them exactly what they wish > for, an endless time until their death to relive all the murders they > committed. > Troop
Troop, i have to disagree with you due to the fact that i dont believe in the death penalty. two wrongs never make a right. ever. plus you have some poor guy that had to put the needles in killing the guy. maybe that guy in retrospect will not be able to live with having taking anothers life. thus making a before innocent man suffer for the rest of his life. and yes i know that some serial killers possible all continue to get off on what they have done. but it is up to God to punish them appropiatally . killing them is not a suffiecent punishment in my opinion. only God can do that and only God can judge them accordingly in my hubble opinion. i dont like the idea of them getting free room and board for the rest of their lives but i just dont agree with killing people. like timothy mcveigh . he wanted to die. therefore attomatically his punishment should have been the opposite. i think he was having trouble with all the pain he had created and wanted to die because of it. he should have been forced to live with it. i am sorry you find me so shallow Trooper later anita
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On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:41 GMT, "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote: > i am sorry you find me so shallow Trooper
Don’t be. He’s a normo who hates schizophrenics and finds every excuse he can to slag us. The only real damage he does is his name/rank/serial number worship of psychiatric orthodoxy, which our real-life experience–something he lacks–tells us to be suspicious of. -wl
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"wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message
news:4mgqv0pnpi63m7fbppa35sv014cosjkjqm@4ax.com… > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:41 GMT, "pines" <yawnball@scratching > post.com> wrote: > > i am sorry you find me so shallow Trooper > Don’t be. He’s a normo who hates schizophrenics and finds every > excuse he can to slag us. > The only real damage he does is his name/rank/serial number worship of > psychiatric orthodoxy, which our real-life experience–something he > lacks–tells us to be suspicious of. > -wl
wiggly lumber, thanks for the information i did know that he was a normo. that makes a difference. thanks again later anita
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"pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message
news:8vbLd.119791$w62.77933@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "wiggly lumber" <d…@arithmetic.com> wrote in message > news:4mgqv0pnpi63m7fbppa35sv014cosjkjqm@4ax.com… >> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:41 GMT, "pines" <yawnball@scratching >> post.com> wrote: >> > i am sorry you find me so shallow Trooper >> Don’t be. He’s a normo who hates schizophrenics and finds every >> excuse he can to slag us. >> The only real damage he does is his name/rank/serial number worship of >> psychiatric orthodoxy, which our real-life experience–something he >> lacks–tells us to be suspicious of. >> -wl > wiggly lumber, > thanks for the information i did know that he was a normo. that makes a > difference. thanks again > later anita
flacid wood is an idiot. I dont even know why hes calling me a normal member. Do normal people have thoughts that their computer is watching them and that they should wrap their chimny in romex wiring to prevent spy rays? LOL. You idiot, I take my meds and they work. So if you want to call me a normo, go for it. What moron creates a derogatory word for healthy people anyway? Troop
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"pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message
news:tH9Ld.119235$w62.40153@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "Trooper" <Troo…@gbronline.com> wrote in message > news:5LSdnWk4cIImImHcRVn-hQ@gbronline.com… >> "pines" <yawnball@scratching post.com> wrote in message >> news:OjAKd.107661$w62.54788@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net… >> > "Daniel Urtiz" <Disagreem…@webtv.net> wrote in message >> > news:22426-41FAC92A-192@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net… >> >> Anita, >> >> You can get too literal about the Ten Commandments. I do not believe >> >> killing is always wrong, but that might be more Roman Catholic than it >> >> is Jewish. It might sometimes be called an "indulgence", if it serves >> >> God’s end. >> >> When you kill, you can also die, but I’m not as afraid to die as I >> >> used >> >> to be. I’ve matured quite a bit since John touched my hand. >> >> Daniel Urtiz >> > Daniel, >> > i aint really afraid to die either, but i would prefer not to do it at >> > this >> > time. >> > i personally dont believe in killing Daniel. it is part of my basic > belief >> > system. for instance if a person was a mass murderer i think the >> > correct >> > punishment for them would be a life sentance not the death penalty. i >> > think >> > they should live the remainder of their days having to live with what > they >> > have done. killing them would be wrong in my opinion. two wrongs doesnt >> > make >> > a right. but that is just my opinion Daniel. >> > you are entitled to your opionion Daniel. >> > later anita , >> > ps i hope you are feeling well today Daniel. >> You have a shallow view of serial killers motives. They would love to >> remain alive so they could recall all those gleefull moments when they >> plunged the knife into the chest of some young girl as they were >> orgasming >> into her. They liked what they did. The feel no guilt whatsoever. >> None. >> Its why they never stopped. Its why they did it in the first place. >> They >> enjoyed it and they replay it over and over again in their mind, in their >> sick, twisted, sexual fantasies. >> By following your opinion, you would be giving them exactly what they >> wish >> for, an endless time until their death to relive all the murders they >> committed. >> Troop > Troop, > i have to disagree with you due to the fact that i dont believe in the > death > penalty. two wrongs never make a right.
Nobody is trying to make anything right. They are punishing somebody for being evil. > ever. plus you have some poor guy > that had to put the needles in killing the guy. maybe that guy in > retrospect > will not be able to live with having taking anothers life. thus making a > before innocent man suffer for the rest of his life.
The men who volunteer for such things are fully prepared to deal with the results. They are usually long time, and many time retired, members, of that part of the unit. They arent strangers to the requirements for the job. > and yes i know that some serial killers possible all continue to get off > on what they have done. but it is up to God to punish them appropiatally . > killing them is not a suffiecent punishment in my opinion. only God can do > that and only God can judge them accordingly in my hubble opinion. > i dont like the idea of them getting free room and board for the rest of > their lives but i just dont agree with killing people.
We have seperation of church and state. We arent to involve imaginary gods in our running of affiairs, or governmental behavior. As a nation we cant rely on an imaginary god to punish anyone. We need to do it. Its our right, and out duty. > like timothy mcveigh > . he wanted to die. therefore attomatically his punishment should have > been > the opposite. i think he was having trouble with all the pain he had > created > and wanted to die because of it. he should have been forced to live with > it. > i am sorry you find me so shallow Trooper > later anita
Thats a very egotistical view to have dont you think? I didnt insinuate you were a shallow person, I said that was a shallow view. Meaning I didnt feel youd taken all the facts into account. I meant shallow in its primary context. I dont know you, I wouldnt hazard a guess as to what kind of person you are. Maybe youre shallow, maybe not, I dont know, dont care. I was just commenting upon the opinion. If a man rapes and murders a bunch of kids… he needs to be executed. We cant allow him to live, or serial killers will be content to murder as many people as they can until they get caught and then theyll just masturbate to the memories of doing it every day until their death, unless we kill them. The only way to eliminate their continual reliving of the thrill they got by butchering someone alive and then fucking the remaining corpse, is to kill them. I dont think you understand what true evil is. Even god commands us to do the unthinkable when its neccessary. True evil exists and we need to eliminate it for our own safety, our peace of mind, and for the victims families sake. Troop
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Safety. Expect. The Scourging at The Pillar. Nature. Brain tumor. Enemy’s meat. I Am That I Am. Adultery. Favorite. Focus. Killer make. Butter.
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Laughter. Nosy. Dislike. Excommunication. Needles. Thought. Meditation. Holiness. Hygiene. Disordered love. Vector. Algebra.
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