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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – #To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?# I get the sense you’re not really interested, and just want to push forward with ‘reform’, and defense of same. Assuming that’s not true, and you really are interested in Catholicism – http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/Books – is a good place to start. You don’t want ‘balance’. What you want is Catholicism. ‘Balance’, in this instance, means Catholicism has to be partly wrong. It’s not. Churchmen are mostly wrong. The world opposed to Christendom in the west, and now as we see in the Commie east, and now Muslim east, is wrong. That’s the balanced conclusion. What churchmen are SUPPOSED to teach and live by, is not. They should esteem and emulate the lives of the Saints. Ask a priest about such, and see if he doesn’t shuffle you out the door lest he miss his tee-off time, or even, to be fair, his scheduled prison visit, without prayer or esteem for the Saints. S
So…a priest has to kiss the Saints feet, the way we have to kiss his? Paul
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#To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?# I get the sense you’re not really interested, and just want to push forward with ‘reform’, and defense of same. Assuming that’s not true, and you really are interested in Catholicism –
#well actually Mr. Johnson I am not Catholic, but am interested in the Catholic faith and I am attempting to understand how people who are Catholic think on issues and how they view issues. I tried other avenues and it was construed as attack and whining, which it may have been so I decided and am attempting to choose my words and phrases to not convey that attitude. On other forums I would use another tack conducive to discussions there. My interest is I know many people who are Catholic, I am interested in the history of the Catholic faith. So I am attempting to be upfront as to motive. ## http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/Books – is a good place to start. You don’t want ‘balance’.
What you want is Catholicism. ‘Balance’, in this instance, means Catholicism has to be partly wrong. It’s not. Churchmen are mostly wrong. The world opposed to Christendom in the west, and now as we see in the Commie east, and now Muslim east, is wrong. That’s the balanced conclusion. What churchmen are SUPPOSED to teach and live by, is not. They should esteem and emulate the lives of the Saints. Ask a priest about such, and see if he doesn’t shuffle you out the door lest he miss his tee-off time, or even, to be fair, his scheduled prison visit, without prayer or esteem for the Saints. Such is life, in any period of the history of The Church, Militant.
#so what you are saying, if I am correct in understanding you, is to accept what Catholicism is and to emulate the Saints. Well I don’t know how to respond to the rest of your post, but thank you for your kindness and response, hope you have a nice day.## – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Peace. * When one finds nothing more to say to God, * but just knows He is there — * that, in itself, is the best of prayers. [Fr. John Vianney, priest of Ars township, France, 1859]
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – #thank you for your response# With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? Is it simply disagreeing with what the Catholic faith says? Is it unfair Characterizations of Catholic belief or grotesque representation IE Jack Chick (that being an extreme)? Do you feel the media is "anti Catholic" in general ? It’s simply intolerance. And yes the media is antiCatholic. #To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?# I do not think any news sources present a balanced view of Catholicism, or anything else for that matter. ** how about Vatican Radio ? How about the Osservatore Romano [sp?] newspaper? ** Damn
thanks for the heads-up, Karen — Rich, 805 386 3734, www.vcnet.com/measures remove ^ from e-mail address
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? ‘New order’. All of the unholy spirit of ‘Vatican II’. All of it is un-Catholic, anti-Catholic, literally by design. ## Is it Vatican two you disagree with or the "spirit" of vatican two you disagree with?## The ’spirit of’ ignored Vatican II, whether they disagreed or not. They took the name of the council to justify their unholy ‘reform’. Thus, the ruined institutional church of today. Looks like it was their plan. So they destroyed the human institution. But they forgot about God. The Church Militant, survives. So The Mass continues. Catholics are still found. The Rosary is still offered, as people ignore the unholy RVM, a nutty document. But you won’t find any of that at the trendy corner parish, advertized under Catholic, for the time being, in the local Yellow Pages. The insitutional church is in ruins, while the Pope tried to make nice with Tariq Aziz – famous ‘Chaldean Christian’ – bringing the papacy even lower than one might imagine, just in his role as head of state. #Do you think this Pope is part of the "new world order" ? The problems he’s created, by active involvement, or more often by dereliction of his office, which is even worse, are as bad as any rumored nwo scheme. I mean, what he’s done is surely the stuff of Marian apparitions from recent centuries, speaking of a ruined Church in the future.
You mean "good" Catholics don’t see Mary under every bed? Paul
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#To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?#
I get the sense you’re not really interested, and just want to push forward with ‘reform’, and defense of same. Assuming that’s not true, and you really are interested in Catholicism – http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/Books – is a good place to start. You don’t want ‘balance’. What you want is Catholicism. ‘Balance’, in this instance, means Catholicism has to be partly wrong. It’s not. Churchmen are mostly wrong. The world opposed to Christendom in the west, and now as we see in the Commie east, and now Muslim east, is wrong. That’s the balanced conclusion. What churchmen are SUPPOSED to teach and live by, is not. They should esteem and emulate the lives of the Saints. Ask a priest about such, and see if he doesn’t shuffle you out the door lest he miss his tee-off time, or even, to be fair, his scheduled prison visit, without prayer or esteem for the Saints. Such is life, in any period of the history of The Church, Militant. Peace. * When one finds nothing more to say to God, * but just knows He is there — * that, in itself, is the best of prayers. [Fr. John Vianney, priest of Ars township, France, 1859]
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With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? ‘New order’. All of the unholy spirit of ‘Vatican II’. All of it is un-Catholic, anti-Catholic, literally by design. The insitutional church is in ruins, while the Pope tried to make nice with Tariq Aziz – famous ‘Chaldean Christian’ – bringing the papacy even lower than one might imagine, just in his role as head of state.
Mark Johnson is Anti-Catholic in his constant rejection of the Pope and the Magesterium. His incredible hypocrisy and Phariseeism are simply astounding. Right here he states his anti-Catholic bias and yet constantly accuses the rest of us of the same. Could it be that he is projecting? What an idiot.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – #thank you for your response# With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? Is it simply disagreeing with what the Catholic faith says? Is it unfair Characterizations of Catholic belief or grotesque representation IE Jack Chick (that being an extreme)? Do you feel the media is "anti Catholic" in general ? It’s simply intolerance. And yes the media is antiCatholic. #To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?# I do not think any news sources present a balanced view of Catholicism, or anything else for that matter.
** how about Vatican Radio ? How about the Osservatore Romano [sp?] newspaper? — Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
– Rich, 805 386 3734, www.vcnet.com/measures remove ^ from e-mail address
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JMJ ? even if RCs were only 11% of the U.S. population, and priests were boinking only half as many children, the paedophile priest scandal would still be newsworthy because the RC Church professed to be God’s one true apostolic church.. Your confusing the sins of the Catholic faithful with the Catholic Faith. There entirely two different things.
** the link is that the Catholic faithful’s moral compass is pretty much set by what they are taught by the Roman Catholic Church. For instance, which is the greater sin: having sex with a woman of child-bearing age or having sex with an altar boy? — Rich, 805 386 3734, www.vcnet.com/measures remove ^ from e-mail address
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – #thank you for your response# With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? Is it simply disagreeing with what the Catholic faith says? Is it unfair Characterizations of Catholic belief or grotesque representation IE Jack Chick (that being an extreme)? Do you feel the media is "anti Catholic" in general ? It’s simply intolerance. And yes the media is antiCatholic. #To get a balance approach concerning the Catholic faith, what would you consider a reasonable avenue to peruse. (IE what news sources do you consider balance in relation to the Catholic perspective.)?# I do not think any news sources present a balanced view of Catholicism, or anything else for that matter. ** how about Vatican Radio ? How about the Osservatore Romano [sp?] newspaper?
Karen
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With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? ‘New order’. All of the unholy spirit of ‘Vatican II’. All of it is un-Catholic, anti-Catholic, literally by design. ## Is it Vatican two you disagree with or the "spirit" of vatican two you disagree with?##
The ’spirit of’ ignored Vatican II, whether they disagreed or not. They took the name of the council to justify their unholy ‘reform’. Thus, the ruined institutional church of today. Looks like it was their plan. So they destroyed the human institution. But they forgot about God. The Church Militant, survives. So The Mass continues. Catholics are still found. The Rosary is still offered, as people ignore the unholy RVM, a nutty document. But you won’t find any of that at the trendy corner parish, advertized under Catholic, for the time being, in the local Yellow Pages. The insitutional church is in ruins, while the Pope tried to make nice with Tariq Aziz – famous ‘Chaldean Christian’ – bringing the papacy even lower than one might imagine, just in his role as head of state. #Do you think this Pope is part of the "new world order" ?
The problems he’s created, by active involvement, or more often by dereliction of his office, which is even worse, are as bad as any rumored nwo scheme. I mean, what he’s done is surely the stuff of Marian apparitions from recent centuries, speaking of a ruined Church in the future. Again The Church, Militant, survives – as always in history. But the present heresy is also more widespread than ever in history. If you’d want to see ‘the other side of the story’, there’s some links: http://www.geocities.com/ymjcath/CathLinks , under Controversies Peace. * When one finds nothing more to say to God, * but just knows He is there — * that, in itself, is the best of prayers. [Fr. John Vianney, priest of Ars township, France, 1859]
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JMJ ? even if RCs were only 11% of the U.S. population, and priests were boinking only half as many children, the paedophile priest scandal would still be newsworthy because the RC Church professed to be God’s one true apostolic church..
Your confusing the sins of the Catholic faithful with the Catholic Faith. There entirely two different things. Jim Carew sfo
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – JMJ With respect, what would you consider "anti Catholic"? Is it simply disagreeing with what the Catholic faith says? Is it unfair Characterizations of Catholic belief or grotesque representation IE Jack Chick (that being an extreme)? Do you feel the media is "anti Catholic" in general ? It’s simply intolerance. And yes the media is anti-Catholic. Yes and No, it all depends on how you look at it. The "media" are supposed to be profit making enterprises if they don’t make a profit they usually go out of business. As I’m sure your aware Catholics constitute only about 23% of the total US population… … … …
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