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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Really???  The "ferret" is praying??? Good question, I never said it, check the "" my reply is above and after that remark.  Hope you get your answer. Then the ferret are cute little things, and sometime do look like they are praying, did he mean it as a insult, I suppose he did, but if he did you got to feel cute, and that not too bad, I would think.  No one ever called me a ferret, then I suppose I to big for that, I love to be that thin again and healthy to move like a ferret.   Then I will just stay as I am, unmovable and strong, healthy and glad God has ferrets.  I suppose he is talking about the animal that I see as a ferret.  I not worry about it, the ferret sure does a lot of that praying look.  Could be you pray too much??  Have a Good New Years. Raymond What are you talking about?

You do know what a ferret is, don’t you? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bruce

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Really???  The "ferret" is praying??? Good question, I never said it, check the "" my reply is above and after that remark.  Hope you get your answer. Then the ferret are cute little things, and sometime do look like they are praying, did he mean it as a insult, I suppose he did, but if he did you got to feel cute, and that not too bad, I would think.  No one ever called me a ferret, then I suppose I to big for that, I love to be that thin again and healthy to move like a ferret.   Then I will just stay as I am, unmovable and strong, healthy and glad God has ferrets.  I suppose he is talking about the animal that I see as a ferret.  I not worry about it, the ferret sure does a lot of that praying look.  Could be you pray too much??  Have a Good New Years. Raymond What are you talking about? You do know what a ferret is, don’t you?

Yes, cute, furry little mongoose type creatures.  But the ferret I was speaking of more resembles a European polecat. Bruce

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Luke 1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Raymond Really???  The "ferret" is praying??? Bruce

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Luke 1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Raymond Really???  The "ferret" is praying??? Good question, I never said it, check the "" my reply is above and

after that remark.  Hope you get your answer. Then the ferret are cute little things, and sometime do look like they are

praying, did he mean it as a insult, I suppose he did, but if he did you got to feel cute, and that not too bad, I would

think.  No one ever called me a ferret, then I suppose I to big for that, I love to be that thin again and healthy to

move like a ferret.   Then I will just stay as I am, unmovable and strong, healthy and glad God has ferrets.  I suppose he

is talking about the animal that I see as a ferret.  I not worry about it, the ferret sure does a lot of that praying

look.  Could be you pray too much??  Have a Good New Years. Raymond

What are you talking about? Bruce

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Alan doesn’t even believe in God.

Or even god — Alan "the Full Monty" Ferrit  ()’.’.’()  ( (T) ) ( )  . ( )  (")_(") eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 Denizen of Darkness #42 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –  Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Luke 1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Raymond Really???  The "ferret" is praying???

Good question, I never said it, check the "" my reply is above and after that remark.  Hope you get your answer. Then the ferret are cute little things, and sometime do look like they are praying, did he mean it as a insult, I suppose he did, but if he did you got to feel cute, and that not too bad, I would think.  No one ever called me a ferret, then I suppose I to big for that, I love to be that thin again and healthy to move like a ferret.   Then I will just stay as I am, unmovable and strong, healthy and glad God has ferrets.  I suppose he is talking about the animal that I see as a ferret.  I not worry about it, the ferret sure does a lot of that praying look.  Could be you pray too much??  Have a Good New Years. Raymond – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bruce

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 Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them.

+ You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children.   + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day.

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 Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then

there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Luke 1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour,

which is Christ the Lord. Raymond

Really???  The "ferret" is praying??? Bruce

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 Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day. "The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet…

Then are you praying as he is for the innocent people that are dying, then there be hope for you also, and maybe for all the world. Luke 1:47  And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. Luke 2:11  For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. Raymond – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Bruce

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 Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children. + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day.

"The ferret" is starting to pray again???  There is hope for him yet… Bruce

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 Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. + You know, I tried to tell you that many times, and you always turn it around and say I don’t care about the poor abused children.   + I am glad you finally recognize that innocent children are dying every day… 4000 abortions – children murdered every day.

Stop lying Patrick, I say you defend abuse because you do. — Alan "the Full Monty" Ferrit  ()’.’.’()  ( (T) ) ( )  . ( )  (")_(") eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 Denizen of Darkness #42 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Alan – I pray for you. I pray for your soul. I pray you can find peace. With yourself. I pray the evil arms of satin will let you free when you accept God into your heart. Move forward. Admit your sins and be swept away from satin into the care of God. Thank you for your prayers, but could I ask you to spend the time more fruitfully by helping somebody in need instead? That’s a pretty rotten thing to say to someone who cares enough about you to pray for you. The man thinks you are in need whether you think you are or not.

It is not rotten Cathy, there are people in much more need than myself.  Innocent people are dying daily, please pray for them. — Alan "the Full Monty" Ferrit  ()’.’.’()  ( (T) ) ( )  . ( )  (")_(") eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 Denizen of Darkness #42 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div.

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+ Hey, Ray… + I see you call yourself a doctor now. + Might that be the *Doctor of Doom?*

If you represent that new ministry website, it is clear, only the lost would go there, as your words are not of a Christian, and foolishness is noted.  You see now?  I don’t think so, my degrees most likey have been, since before you been born from the level of the above remark.   So sad, you play such games, instead of giving your life to the Lord Jesus as your Saviour. Raymond. + Ray! My name is Raymond not Ray. + My middle name is Raymond. + Hey Ray…. + Go away. To come back another day, well here I am, now it is your turn to go away. + Nah, I’ve got an hour to kill, and I might as well see what you are peddling this week.

I would think the only peddling you would be doing is on your bicycle. + You are a liar, a fraud, and I’m tired of making fun of you, your religion, your website, and your faith. That is nice, I don’t see you keeping your word, as here you are, still making fun and lying. + I don’t take kindly to catholic-bashers, charlatans, snake-oil salesmen, or you.

You don’t seem to take kindly to any true Christian, who does serve the Lord, then I never met a catholic, that did not respect me, as I them.  So if you are a catholic it would be in name only. I do pity you, if any of your insults come from the heart, you need to find the peace only Jesus can give. If you think that is also a lie, then you are beyond any help you could get from the newsgroups. + I appreciate your bible-thumpin there, ray.

Sorry the name is Raymond, and I don’t do thumping the bible, I follow it, and teach it, like any good Priest is suppose to do. + But, since we don’t read the same bible, I’m not sure you have a complete version.  I believe you have several books missing.

Would you like me to post the latin Valgate here, it is Catholic you know, and I have all the books of the bible as well as the extra ones the Catholic Church has, as well as all the volumes of books on the Church Fathers, etc.  Would you like a qoute or two?     38 Petrus vero ad illos paenitentiam inquit agite et baptizetur unusquisque vestrum in nomine Iesu Christi in remissionem peccatorum vestrorum et accipietis donum Sancti Spiritus 39 vobis enim est repromissio et filiis vestris et omnibus qui longe sunt quoscumque advocaverit Dominus Deus noster 40  aliis etiam verbis pluribus testificatus est et exhortabatur eos dicens salvamini a generatione ista prava 41  qui ergo receperunt sermonem eius baptizati sunt et adpositae sunt in illa die animae circiter tria milia Follow that and you will find the blessings of Christ Jesus. + I really hate it when you use faulty logic, bad spelling errors, and You must have someone confused here, I do use a spell check, so there are no spelling errors.  As for my logic, it is good, and yours is that which is faulty.  Why? Because like in this post of yours, you’re not showing my logic is wrong, you’re just attacking the messenger!  Which people that have no answers do, or they have been proven wrong and their logic faulty do.   I suppose that you find that, in some course 101 in trying to stop the truth. + Wow.

I was thinking that would blow you away, and you proved it. + A whole paragraph with properly spelled words.

So silly you are getting, I told you all my words are spelled correctly thanks to MS Spell check, you should use it something, it may help you some. + I am impressed.  You must have upgraded.

I finished school and college long ago, like I said, most likely before you were born, so no up grade need.  Now for you and your grades, you would never past in my class that is for sure. Did I say, I am a Bishop? + You did at one time. + Now I see you claim to be a doctor. + Perhaps you could spell out where you received your PhD, where you have published something, and your thesis.

I do not have a PhD, so do not have to spell it, or worry about it, and we all can see now, you really are making this all up, and really know nothing. The churches in the State of Indiana, USA, seem to disagree with you.  Then being the Head of a religious organization also proves your wrong. + So you do claim to be a bishop?

I don’t use that term, others do, then they know what respect is and honor God by as they see it honoring His ministers.  Which it seems you have no idea what that means. + Which religious organization are you a head of?

You told me you been to our website, seems like that was a lie also, as that question proves it. + Do you have your picture hanging in dozens of churches?

I would not know, unless one counts the mission bulletin boards then my picture and the Church work could be posted in a few dozen at least.  As it is also posted on different websites that link to our website, why do you ask, you can download one for your church from the website if you really need one.   You can then toss darts at it, as that is all I could see you doing, in your frame of mind. + I used to pick on you in the Catholic newsgroup 2-3 years ago when you interloped then.  You finally said you were leaving Hong Kong for Texas, and we all thought you were gone for good.

I don’t use or go to Catholic newsgroups, the only time you may of found a message of mine was because someone crossed linked it.  I sure do not see any need to use such a group, as I still have good relationship with the Priest and Arch Bishop and such that I became friends with over the years.   We can talk about doctrine, and not do as you seem to like to do, bring it down to the lowest denominator you can.   I leave Hong Kong for the USA every few years for a renewal and ministry in the Churches there, as well as Texas, as that is our official address.   You seem to think the internet is limited, I never been disconnected from my connections except for a week or less, as I travel, Earthlink made sure of that, while in the USA. Therefore your comment really doesn’t show you have much knowledge in the working of even the Internet let along about the Bible or Church history or doctrines, any church doctrine. [lies and insults cut out] You are really getting impudent, with such silly impercipient. everyone which Theology courses you attended….  ALL of them.  You You said you were at our website, the degrees and courses are listed, the name of the Colleges etc, are all there, if anyone would care to look them up.  Now those listed were earned in the religious fields, if you like you could also write to the AIR UNIVERSITY extension course institute, Gunter Air Force Base, Alabama, that on Dec 05, 1960 I received the diploma in LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT course No. 0005, USAF.  Check it out if you like, as well as visit the website and get the names of the other colleges I did attend and did earn my degrees from.  Thank you! + You have a blue certificate from the USAF.

I have a DIPLOMA as it says on the White paper they sent and I have with me, it sure is not blue, unless you are color blind.  As for what you call blue certificates I have them also, as I did a lot of my training as "on the job training" and got papers for each level I finished qualifications for.  I didn’t even think of listing, then having a top secret clearance, I’m not sure, If I could post any of that here for you to mock and lie about. + So do I.  Actually, I have close to 25-30 of them. + NCO Leadership school doesn’t prepare you for a religious life. + Every single enlisted person in the USAF has recieved that document.

Then every one doesn’t receive a Diploma in leadership and Management, you got to study for that, and take hours in class to complete each part the requirements.  As a NCO I wanted to do better, and after College, almost went back in as a Captain.  As I accepted Christ as saviour while in the military, and would of been a Chaplin, only a Lt. Col who was a friend and a Chaplin advised me not to do such, if I wanted the freedom to follow God, and minister to people to bring them to the Lord Jesus.  I sure you have no idea what that would mean. + Don’t bore me with your blue piece of paper.

I won’t and I hope you don’t bore me with yours. + Let’s go to your degrees.  Where?  When?

Already answered that, and told you where you could get the time, location, address and etc, instead of insulting do some work and look where you are told to, nothing is hide, not a thing.  Now do your homework. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – know, all three of them.  Tell us about your tent days, your days in the Philippines, and your college campuses.  I especially liked that one. Tent days?  Our meetings were in the Philippines, which were in the open air markets, no tent would of been big enough to hold the large groups of people that came, numbering into the thousands.  You’re silly!  Then a TENT, I  never did owned one.  Our college campuses are found at 151 San Jose street in Antipolo, Rizal which we dedicated years ago, and the school found in Dalwangan, Malaybalay City, Bukidnon, that we founded and purchased the land in the late 1960s.  I was the President and teacher for years, now in the good hands of Rev. Ricardo T. Onda, and it is now called the Dalwangan Theological Seminary, and is also licensed with the government of the Philippines. + Do they have any paved roads yet in Dalwangan?

The interstate highway from the North to the south, goes right by the school and it is easy to find as it is at the bend in the road, all paved, and with electric, running water, with in a few miles of the capital of Bukindon that also has stories and hotels, hospital and a small air port, if … read more »

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Please don’t cross-post. Hub

That would be nice if you did the same, this post was crossed linked by you to the following links. alt.religion.christian.last-days,alt.religion.christian.lutheran,alt.religi on.christian.me thodist,alt.religion.christian.presbyterian,alt.religion.christian.roman-ca tholic Then you only tried to follow it up to this acs.test why is that, so you can tell others what to do, and the reply will only go to where you want them, so no one will be the wiser?

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Alan – I pray for you. I pray for your soul. I pray you can find peace. With yourself. I pray the evil arms of satin will let you free when you accept God into your heart. Move forward. Admit your sins and be swept away from satin into the care of God.

Thank you for your prayers, but could I ask you to spend the time more fruitfully by helping somebody in need instead? — Alan "the Full Monty" Ferrit  ()’.’.’()  ( (T) ) ( )  . ( )  (")_(") eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 Denizen of Darkness #42 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – | | Please don’t cross-post. | | Hub | | That would be nice if you did the same, this post was crossed linked by you to the | following links. < chop Raymond, thanks for taking an interest in my complaint. Basically, the cross-posting of the original post forces me to cross-post because I don’t know which one of the many groups you are replying from! :-)

That is not true, as I told you from which group I am posting from the alt.religion.Christian.Methodist, so smile all you like I only see that you again cross-posted this to many other areas and did so knowing what you were doing. Using newsgroups as a personal advertizing medium is called Spamming which is considered rude and a waste of other people’s time and bandwidth. Also, most likely the topic really only pertains to one or two newsgroups at best. Yes, you can construe that it somehow relates to every group on usenet, but, in fact, it doesn’t.

So why did you not just post this to my newsgroup, or to my e-mail address which is also found when one replies? Spamming can be anything, not only advertising, as some just dump thousands of words from the Bible, daily with no indication why they did so, or what someone is suppose to see in those thousand of words.   A waste of time and bandwidth, which most of us, don’t think about, as it seems people will do as they like no matter if they have the address of the person they wanted, or not. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Thank you, God Bless. Hub

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+ Hey, Ray… + I see you call yourself a doctor now. + Might that be the *Doctor of Doom?* + Ray! My name is Raymond not Ray.

+ My middle name is Raymond. + Hey Ray…. + Go away. To come back another day, well here I am, now it is your turn to go away.

+ Nah, I’ve got an hour to kill, and I might as well see what you are peddling this week. + You are a liar, a fraud, and I’m tired of making fun of you, your religion, your website, and your faith. That is nice, I don’t see you keeping your word, as here you are, still making fun and lying.

+ I don’t take kindly to catholic-bashers, charlatans, snake-oil salesmen, or you. + Stop posting in the Catholic newsgroup. I don’t, I use one newsgroup and it sure is not Catholic, if you link to where I am and don’t want a reply, don’t reply and the link is broken.  Then when you do, as you did here, you are only inviting my remarks.  I have no problem with Catholics they are people, and God came to save people and to help people, which my website shows we do, and do so in Faith.

+ That is not what you used to peddle. + Don’t you recall? + You used to try to teach us the right ways of the Lord. + You used to bash Catholics in many trivial ways. + Don’t you remember, ray? I do pity you, if any of your insults come from the heart, you need to find the peace only Jesus can give. If you think that is also a lie, then you are beyond any help you could get from the newsgroups.

+ I appreciate your bible-thumpin there, ray.   + But, since we don’t read the same bible, I’m not sure you have a complete version.  I believe you have several books missing. + I really hate it when you use faulty logic, bad spelling errors, and You must have someone confused here, I do use a spell check, so there are no spelling errors.  As for my logic, it is good, and yours is that which is faulty.  Why? Because like in this post of yours, you’re not showing my logic is wrong, you’re just attacking the messenger!  Which people that have no answers do, or they have been proven wrong and their logic faulty do.   I suppose that you find that, in some course 101 in trying to stop the truth.

+ Wow. + A whole paragraph with properly spelled words. + I am impressed.  You must have upgraded. incorrect English when trying to win your silly arguments.  You are no If the arguments were so silly, it would seem you could easily answer then, instead of insulting the messenger.   Since you can’t or don’t, that is seen here, my arguments are fact and you don’t like it, history, logic, theology, and knowledge, just goes over your head, so you call them silly.  Instead of working out a reply that could make it look silly, which you can not and have not done.

+ You used to have such bad grammar and spelling, it was easy to dismiss you as a buffoon.  Don’t tell me I am actually going to have to read what you are trying to say and insult you with logic versus your looks, your fake credentials, your fake degrees…. more a bishop of your faith than I am of mine.  Except that you sent Did I say, I am a Bishop?

+ You did at one time. + Now I see you claim to be a doctor. + Perhaps you could spell out where you received your PhD, where you have published something, and your thesis. The churches in the State of Indiana, USA, seem to disagree with you.  Then being the Head of a religious organization also proves your wrong.  

+ So you do claim to be a bishop? + Which religious organization are you a head of? + Do you have your picture hanging in dozens of churches? The churches I did helped start and build and now number over a thousand

+ Somehow,…. I just can’t believe you, ray…… still do see me as their Overseer and appreciate that leadership.  We, today uses the term Presbyter instead of Overseer.  I don’t know who you are, so can not answer your statement about your qualification.  I do know who I am, and my record over the last 42 years speak for itself.

+ I used to pick on you in the Catholic newsgroup 2-3 years ago when you interloped then.  You finally said you were leaving Hong Kong for Texas, and we all thought you were gone for good. Now the definition of Bishop as found in a dictionary, does show I am a Bishop, only not a Roman Catholic Bishop, then I never said I was.

+ You are a bishop the same way that two men are married to each other.  in-name only — with no religious qualifications  If you have problem with any of the English above, I would be glad to explain it to you again, as well as any word that may not be spelled correctly, I would like to see it.

+ You dun good this time, ray. your money away and got the silly diploma.  As did your wife.  Tell I earned my diploma more then one by the way, in ministry, and other areas of Church work, as well as management. Which did cost me and my wife over Thirty thousands US dollars at the time.  Also many years, in college, not a mail order mill, as you seem to imply, then it would be silly.   You are really getting impudent, with such silly impercipient.

+ Stop looking fer them big words in the dictionary, ray. + You be tryin ta be impudent. everyone which Theology courses you attended….  ALL of them.  You You said you were at our website, the degrees and courses are listed, the name of the Colleges etc, are all there, if anyone would care to look them up.  Now those listed were earned in the religious fields, if you like you could also write to the AIR UNIVERSITY extension course institute, Gunter Air Force Base, Alabama, that on Dec 05, 1960 I received the diploma in LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT course No. 0005, USAF.  Check it out if you like, as well as visit the website and get the names of the other colleges I did attend and did earn my degrees from.  Thank you!

+ You have a blue certificate from the USAF.   + So do I.  Actually, I have close to 25-30 of them. + NCO Leadership school doesn’t prepare you for a religious life. + Every single enlisted person in the USAF has recieved that document. + Don’t bore me with your blue piece of paper. + Let’s go to your degrees.  Where?  When? know, all three of them.  Tell us about your tent days, your days in the Philippines, and your college campuses.  I especially liked that one. Tent days?  Our meetings were in the Philippines, which were in the open air markets, no tent would of been big enough to hold the large groups of people that came, numbering into the thousands.  You’re silly!  Then a TENT, I  never did owned one.  Our college campuses are found at 151 San Jose street in Antipolo, Rizal which we dedicated years ago, and the school found in Dalwangan, Malaybalay City, Bukidnon, that we founded and purchased the land in the late 1960s.  I was the President and teacher for years, now in the good hands of Rev. Ricardo T. Onda, and it is now called the Dalwangan Theological Seminary, and is also licensed with the government of the Philippines.

+ Do they have any paved roads yet in Dalwangan? The churches and organization in the Philippines which I was on the board and helped in the foundation of, because of the Laws at that time is called the Philippine Ministerial Assn, or PMA, for short.  Which today has over 1,000 churches and chapels plus the Bible school, in Rizal.  Would anyone like more information please feel free to check it out at our website, as it is clear the writer who wrote me, has not done, fully.  For the Church work and our outreach in Hong Kong, China visit the "Mission in China" newsletter with reports, and pictures of the work, the church, the baptism, and so on.  Which all in all make this persons accusations against me as laughable, and false.  Thank you for you kindness, reader, and hope to hear from you all, here.  Praise be to the name of my Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ, the only way to God.

+ Ray, I know you aren’t a bad man. + I can see that you have actually cleaned up your act lately, and you’ve been working on your credentials.  (I wouldn’t use the Leadership one from Gunter though.  It won’t impress anyone who has ever been in the AIr Force.   + Stop crossposting here, and I won’t make fun of you. You can make fun of me all you like, and if you don’t want to read my post, cut the crossposting on your end, as I am not sure which link you are using to link to the alt.religion.christian.methodist which I believe I am replying at.

+ Nope. I’m Catholic + Deal? NO deal, I like it when people question me, and I can provide the truth and documentation which proves they are wrong and their words were just poking fun at others, then.  

+ Uh oh… + looks like you are getting angry and you might wing somethin…. suppose you like the punishment of been make to look silly in your newsgroup and all the links you posted this too.  

+ Yep, I knowed it. You see I have nothing to hide, and am glad to be chosen by Christ to do His ministry today, it is a great honor and my all is in Christ Jesus.  He and only He has made what has been done, not I, I am only his friend and child.  I minister wherever God wants me to, all glory and honor to Jesus my LORD.  

+ Glory be. I do use a spell check,

+ Yahoo… and if you have any problem understanding the English I use, please point it out and I or someone else here can help you.  I been in Asia for 39 years, and would think my English has suffered as the cultural and grammar are not the same, here in China.  I need to be understood, even if the English, you mock is not up to your standards.

+ Hmmm. + You didn’t go back to Texas 2 years ago? + Did you lie to me? Yours in Jesus Christ, Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D

+ Please inform me as to what you mean by the ThB, DD thang?

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You website could use some work,

So could yours. I went to it and it was down. FYI –Brandt – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -maybe use the ministries page for your opening page, would be better.  Then you talk about a web radio, but give no information that I could find to hear it. Yours in Jesus Christ, Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneers-for-Jesus.org Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." NASU Please visit our site when you have time. The Fort Of Faith Ministry will be a great foundation in your life! Go to

http://www.geocities.com/fortoffaith – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – today! — Rev. Greg McClain http://www.geocities.com/fortoffaith

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Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneer-for-Jesus.org + Ray! + Go away. + You are a liar, a fraud, and I’m tired of making fun of you, your religion, your website, and your faith.

Scared of what your god might think? — Alan "the Full Monty" Ferrit  ()’.’.’()  ( (T) ) ( )  . ( )  (")_(") eligo, ergo sum Atheist #1211 Denizen of Darkness #42 EAC(UK)#252 Ironic Torture Div.

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Alan – I pray for you. I pray for your soul. I pray you can find peace. With yourself. I pray the evil arms of satin will let you free when you accept God into your heart. Move forward. Admit your sins and be swept away from satin into the care of God. — Rev. Greg McClain http://www.geocities.com/fortoffaith

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Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneer-for-Jesus.org + Ray!

My name is Raymond not Ray. + Go away.

To come back another day, well here I am, now it is your turn to go away. + You are a liar, a fraud, and I’m tired of making fun of you, your religion, your website, and your faith.

That is nice, I don’t see you keeping your word, as here you are, still making fun and lying. + Stop posting in the Catholic newsgroup.

I don’t, I use one newsgroup and it sure is not Catholic, if you link to where I am and don’t want a reply, don’t reply and the link is broken.  Then when you do, as you did here, you are only inviting my remarks.  I have no problem with Catholics they are people, and God came to save people and to help people, which my website shows we do, and do so in Faith. I do pity you, if any of your insults come from the heart, you need to find the peace only Jesus can give. If you think that is also a lie, then you are beyond any help you could get from the newsgroups. + I really hate it when you use faulty logic, bad spelling errors, and

You must have someone confused here, I do use a spell check, so there are no spelling errors.  As for my logic, it is good, and yours is that which is faulty.  Why? Because like in this post of yours, you’re not showing my logic is wrong, you’re just attacking the messenger!  Which people that have no answers do, or they have been proven wrong and their logic faulty do.   I suppose that you find that, in some course 101 in trying to stop the truth. incorrect English when trying to win your silly arguments.  You are no

If the arguments were so silly, it would seem you could easily answer then, instead of insulting the messenger.   Since you can’t or don’t, that is seen here, my arguments are fact and you don’t like it, history, logic, theology, and knowledge, just goes over your head, so you call them silly.  Instead of working out a reply that could make it look silly, which you can not and have not done. more a bishop of your faith than I am of mine.  Except that you sent

Did I say, I am a Bishop?  The churches in the State of Indiana, USA, seem to disagree with you.  Then being the Head of a religious organization also proves your wrong.   The churches I did helped start and build and now number over a thousand still do see me as their Overseer and appreciate that leadership.  We, today uses the term Presbyter instead of Overseer.  I don’t know who you are, so can not answer your statement about your qualification.  I do know who I am, and my record over the last 42 years speak for itself. Now the definition of Bishop as found in a dictionary, does show I am a Bishop, only not a Roman Catholic Bishop, then I never said I was.   If you have problem with any of the English above, I would be glad to explain it to you again, as well as any word that may not be spelled correctly, I would like to see it. your money away and got the silly diploma.  As did your wife.  Tell

I earned my diploma more then one by the way, in ministry, and other areas of Church work, as well as management. Which did cost me and my wife over Thirty thousands US dollars at the time.  Also many years, in college, not a mail order mill, as you seem to imply, then it would be silly.   You are really getting impudent, with such silly impercipient. everyone which Theology courses you attended….  ALL of them.  You

You said you were at our website, the degrees and courses are listed, the name of the Colleges etc, are all there, if anyone would care to look them up.  Now those listed were earned in the religious fields, if you like you could also write to the AIR UNIVERSITY extension course institute, Gunter Air Force Base, Alabama, that on Dec 05, 1960 I received the diploma in LEADERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT course No. 0005, USAF.  Check it out if you like, as well as visit the website and get the names of the other colleges I did attend and did earn my degrees from.  Thank you! know, all three of them.  Tell us about your tent days, your days in the Philippines, and your college campuses.  I especially liked that one.

Tent days?  Our meetings were in the Philippines, which were in the open air markets, no tent would of been big enough to hold the large groups of people that came, numbering into the thousands.  You’re silly!  Then a TENT, I  never did owned one.  Our college campuses are found at 151 San Jose street in Antipolo, Rizal which we dedicated years ago, and the school found in Dalwangan, Malaybalay City, Bukidnon, that we founded and purchased the land in the late 1960s.  I was the President and teacher for years, now in the good hands of Rev. Ricardo T. Onda, and it is now called the Dalwangan Theological Seminary, and is also licensed with the government of the Philippines. The churches and organization in the Philippines which I was on the board and helped in the foundation of, because of the Laws at that time is called the Philippine Ministerial Assn, or PMA, for short.  Which today has over 1,000 churches and chapels plus the Bible school, in Rizal.  Would anyone like more information please feel free to check it out at our website, as it is clear the writer who wrote me, has not done, fully.  For the Church work and our outreach in Hong Kong, China visit the "Mission in China" newsletter with reports, and pictures of the work, the church, the baptism, and so on.  Which all in all make this persons accusations against me as laughable, and false.  Thank you for you kindness, reader, and hope to hear from you all, here.  Praise be to the name of my Lord and Saviour Jesus the Christ, the only way to God. + Stop crossposting here, and I won’t make fun of you.

You can make fun of me all you like, and if you don’t want to read my post, cut the crossposting on your end, as I am not sure which link you are using to link to the alt.religion.christian.methodist which I believe I am replying at. + Deal?

NO deal, I like it when people question me, and I can provide the truth and documentation which proves they are wrong and their words were just poking fun at others, then.   I suppose you like the punishment of been make to look silly in your newsgroup and all the links you posted this too.  You see I have nothing to hide, and am glad to be chosen by Christ to do His ministry today, it is a great honor and my all is in Christ Jesus.  He and only He has made what has been done, not I, I am only his friend and child.  I minister wherever God wants me to, all glory and honor to Jesus my LORD.    I do use a spell check, and if you have any problem understanding the English I use, please point it out and I or someone else here can help you.  I been in Asia for 39 years, and would think my English has suffered as the cultural and grammar are not the same, here in China.  I need to be understood, even if the English, you mock is not up to your standards. Yours in Jesus Christ, Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneers-for-Jesus.org Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." NASU

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You website could use some work, maybe use the ministries page for your opening page, would be better.  Then you talk about a web radio, but give no information that I could find to hear it. Yours in Jesus Christ, Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneers-for-Jesus.org Acts 4:12 "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved." NASU – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Please visit our site when you have time. The Fort Of Faith Ministry will be a great foundation in your life! Go to http://www.geocities.com/fortoffaith today! — Rev. Greg McClain http://www.geocities.com/fortoffaith

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Raymond Knapp,Th.B, D.D Homepage at Website:  www.pioneer-for-Jesus.org

+ Ray! + Go away. + You are a liar, a fraud, and I’m tired of making fun of you, your religion, your website, and your faith. + Stop posting in the Catholic newsgroup. + I really hate it when you use faulty logic, bad spelling errors, and incorrect English when trying to win your silly arguments.  You are no more a bishop of your faith than I am of mine.  Except that you sent your money away and got the silly diploma.  As did your wife.  Tell everyone which Theology courses you attended….  ALL of them.  You know, all three of them.  Tell us about your tent days, your days in the Philippines, and your college campuses.  I especially liked that one.   + Stop crossposting here, and I won’t make fun of you. + Deal?

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