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(*) Tongues and the Holy Spirit

Question:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You give me a verse in the Bible that says when a person is filled with the Holy Ghost they don’t speak in tongues.  All DID speak in tongues when receiving the Holy Ghost, and there is not scripture out there that will ever say otherwise.  Don’t you read the Bible instead of just guessing at it?? The verses in 1 Corinthians that you refer to are not talking about the Holy Ghost, they are talking about the gifts of the spirit that one can obtain after receiving the Holy Ghost.  In the letter to the Corinthians, he wasn’t talking to sinners, he was talking to people who had already been saved and established a church, so your claim is null.

Once again, I have ALREADY answered this debate…. Is "speaking in tongues" evidence of one being filled with the Holy Spirit? I am  sure that after we examine the facts  found in scripture, we will see that this is not the case.  Luke 1:15, "For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither  wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his  mother’s womb."  No mention of John speaking in tongues, either while  in the womb or anytime during his earthly ministry.  But notice what it says WORD FOR WORD…  "and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost".  He was definately filled with the Holy Ghost,  but NEVER spoke in tongues.  Luke 1:67, "And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and  prophesied, saying,"  John the Baptist’s father was FILLED WITH THE HOLY GHOST  but there is no mention or any biblical evidence of him EVER  SPEAKING in tongues….but yet the bible says he was  "Filled with the Holy Ghost"….  Luke 1:35, "And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall  come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore  also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the  Son of God."  Mary was overcome with the Holy Ghost, but there is NO RECORD  of her speaking in tongues BEFORE the day of pentecost. Yet, she was filled with  the Spirit BEFORE THEN yet NEVER spake  in tongues….  Luke 3:21-22, "Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that  Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,  And the Holy  Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from  heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."  Jesus was FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT more than ANYONE  in the HISTORY of MANKIND, yet he NEVER spake in tongues…  not one record of it ANYWHERE in the Bible!  Would Jesus forget  to teach us and the disciples something as important as tongues talking if he  expected us to do it? I would think since he is the creator of all things, the obvious  answer would be NO.  And just for you people who think that Matthew 27:46, "And about the ninth hour  Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,  My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"  Is tongues speaking, IT ISNT! It is a form of ARAMAIC! A known language at that  time!  Acts 10:38, "How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with  power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the  devil; for God was with him."  Jesus Christ, GOD IN THE FLESH!  Annointed with the Holy Ghost, yet NEVER SPAKE IN TONGUES!  John 14:26, "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will  send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your  remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."  Jesus tells us what the effect of the Holy Ghost will have on us, "teach you all  things" but notice that he does not include TONGUE SPEAKING as part of this  gift?  This is the 3rd time Jesus mentions the Holy Spirit and has NEVER  mentioned tongues talking as being a evidence of  the filling with the Holy Spirit.  John 20:22, "And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto  them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:"  This is the 4th reference Jesus, GOD IN THE FLESH, makes to the  Holy Spirit, yet NO MENTION of tongues speaking as an evidence  of being filled with the Spirit!  Acts 4:31, "And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were  assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake  the word of God with boldness."  One again, disciples FILLED witht he Holy Ghost, yet they did NOT speak in  tongues…..There is NO EVIDENCE that the filling of the Holy Ghost is followed by  tongues speaking.  Note: Not all the  disciples spake in TONGUES (A known Language of those  present! Always a KNOWN TONGUE! See Acts 2:4-11;  10:46, and 19:6 to prove it was ALWAYS A KNOWN  LANGUAGE of those present when it was spoken, and there  was NO INTERPRETATOR PRESENT OR NEEDED!)

Response:

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – You give me a verse in the Bible that says when a person is filled with the Holy Ghost they don’t speak in tongues.  All DID speak in tongues when receiving the Holy Ghost, and there is not scripture out there that will ever say otherwise.  Don’t you read the Bible instead of just guessing at it?? The verses in 1 Corinthians that you refer to are not talking about the Holy Ghost, they are talking about the gifts of the spirit that one can obtain after receiving the Holy Ghost.  In the letter to the Corinthians, he wasn’t talking to sinners, he was talking to people who had already been saved and established a church, so your claim is null. Once again, I have ALREADY answered this debate….

And you still continue to claim that lack of mention means the opposite is true, but that is not so, and you don’t have scripture to prove it.  If all you are going to do is recite the same irrelevant scriptures, then don’t respond at all.

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