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There Is No 'M'essiah Who Can Stop the Bloodshed…But How Much Blood Must Be Shed Before the Truth Is Acknowledged Even in Jerusalem?

Question:

you wrote.. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. Except that Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Maitreya are evil lies of Satan’s deceptions and are false and cannot be trusted, so therefore have no value or truths.

LOL! I wonder if she even knows the slightest thing about any of them?! ;) — Peter

Response:

you wrote.. What’s your view about gays, lesbians, AIDS, and abortions. Do you still claim to be part four of the Christian godhead? Were you there in the Garden of Eden? Do you still believe weed is the tree of spiritual enlightenment.

My thoughts on gays and lesbians? Sex is sex, it is lust, earthly and unnecessary in this day and age. For those who desire to reach heaven, then all sex, whether gay or straight, must be abstained. Anyone who is straight and indulges in sex, has no right to judge gays and lesbians on their choice of indulging in sex, as well. Aids? Aids was created, and implemented by the US government, to rid the earth of the undesirables, gays, drug users and the poor. I am Christ, what do you think I think about being in the Godhead? Was I in the garden of Eden? No. Marijuana, provides spiritual enlightenment between good and evil. you wrote.. So there was the trinity, and with you it’s a quadrinity. How many till it becomes polytheism.

No, the trinity was phrased by the Catholic church. There is NO such thing. God is God and there are many facets and beings that make up the godhead, but all are the same ONE TRUE GOD, with the same spirit and truth. it was written.. The middle east has absolutely NOTHING to do with the wrath of God, Oops, the Prophets were lying?

No, you obviously don’t know how to interpret prophetic scripture and the metaphoric terms regarding them. Prophecy is NOT literal in all sense. To interpret these prophecies, you must have done all that Christ said, to receive the Holy Spirit of truth and thus the language of the Holy Spirit to understand their meanings and purpose. you wrote. . Maybe you are the infidel for claiming to be God. Or have you been cured of that delusion.

Maybe your ignorance, disobedience, rebellion against God and His requirements to be His chosen, doesn’t allow you to see who I am. you wrote.. So you drink poison and hold poisonous snakes. Don’t ever try to teach men, Dorey, because Paul stated women should not teach men, also serves you right to be kicked out of church…women should be silent in church.

I do NOT need to drink poison and hold poisonous snakes to test my faith. I KNOW. As far as being a women, the prophecy states. Jer 31:22 22 How long wilt thou go about, O thou backsliding daughter? for the LORD hath created a new thing in the earth, A woman shall compass a man. (KJV) Isa 47:3-4 3 Thy nakedness shall be uncovered, yea, thy shame shall be seen: I will take vengeance, and I will not meet thee as a man. 4 As for our redeemer, the LORD of hosts is his name, the Holy One of Israel. (KJV) you wrote.. The Great Spirit must wrestle with the Holy Spirit then…two out of three falls…No cheating this time, like with Jacob.

There is ONLY the Holy Spirit. An angel wrestled with Jacob. you wrote.. Who wrote the Bible, foolish one. And who added to it, changed it, etc…That’s right…men.

Men who walked with God in righteousness wrote the bible as God gave them the inspiration and knowledge necessary to have HIS WORD known to all mankind. And those who walk in this WORD, with their very lives, are then given the Holy Spirit to guide them into all truths, knowledge and wisdom of God, for God is the final teacher. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you wrote.. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. Except that Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Maitreya are evil lies of Satan’s deceptions and are false and cannot be trusted, so therefore have no value or truths. What’s your view about gays, lesbians, AIDS, and abortions. Do you still claim to be part four of the Christian godhead? Were you there in the Garden of Eden? Do you still believe weed is the tree of spiritual enlightenment. You have choices to either fall into the temptations of the many deceptions of Satan or seek the truth of God through Christ, for He alone is the ONLY Son of GOD, and the author of truth. So there was the trinity, and with you it’s a quadrinity. How many till it becomes polytheism. you wrote.. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. The middle east has absolutely NOTHING to do with the wrath of God, Oops, the Prophets were lying? the truth of the plan of salvation and the events of the return. Forget Daniel and Zechariah then? The middle east is full of Muslims, Jews and Catholics which are NONE of the true disciples of Christ and are treated just like any other infidel and wicked. Maybe you are the infidel for claiming to be God. Or have you been cured of that delusion. The bible DOES contain all the answers when obeyed and lived accordingly, So you drink poison and hold poisonous snakes. Don’t ever try to teach men, Dorey, because Paul stated women should not teach men, also serves you right to be kicked out of church…women should be silent in church. as when followed precisely the Holy Spirit comes to guide man into all truths. The Great Spirit must wrestle with the Holy Spirit then…two out of three falls…No cheating this time, like with Jacob. Traditions of men are worthless for they are from man and NOT GOD! Who wrote the Bible, foolish one. And who added to it, changed it, etc…That’s right…men. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html you wrote.. Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. No, degradation and eventual destruction is all you will be seeing soon. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. And all the scholars and sinners will be destroyed by the time YOU THINK will come time. Isa 59:15-19 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. (KJV) Isa 2:7-22 7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots: 8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. 10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17

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Response:

you wrote.. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. Except that Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Maitreya are evil lies of Satan’s deceptions and are false and cannot be trusted, so therefore have no value or truths.

What’s your view about gays, lesbians, AIDS, and abortions. Do you still claim to be part four of the Christian godhead? Were you there in the Garden of Eden? Do you still believe weed is the tree of spiritual enlightenment. You have choices to either fall into the temptations of the many deceptions of Satan or seek the truth of God through Christ, for He alone is the ONLY Son of GOD, and the author of truth.

So there was the trinity, and with you it’s a quadrinity. How many till it becomes polytheism. you wrote.. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. The middle east has absolutely NOTHING to do with the wrath of God,

Oops, the Prophets were lying? the truth of the plan of salvation and the events of the return.

Forget Daniel and Zechariah then? The middle east is full of Muslims, Jews and Catholics which are NONE of the true disciples of Christ and are treated just like any other infidel and wicked.

Maybe you are the infidel for claiming to be God. Or have you been cured of that delusion. The bible DOES contain all the answers when obeyed and lived accordingly,

So you drink poison and hold poisonous snakes. Don’t ever try to teach men, Dorey, because Paul stated women should not teach men, also serves you right to be kicked out of church…women should be silent in church. as when followed precisely the Holy Spirit comes to guide man into all truths.

The Great Spirit must wrestle with the Holy Spirit then…two out of three falls…No cheating this time, like with Jacob. Traditions of men are worthless for they are from man and NOT GOD!

Who wrote the Bible, foolish one. And who added to it, changed it, etc…That’s right…men. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html you wrote.. Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. No, degradation and eventual destruction is all you will be seeing soon. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. And all the scholars and sinners will be destroyed by the time YOU THINK will come time. Isa 59:15-19 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. (KJV) Isa 2:7-22 7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots: 8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. 10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? (KJV) —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html (shuttling back and forth) Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the

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Response:

you wrote.. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten.

Except that Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and the Maitreya are evil lies of Satan’s deceptions and are false and cannot be trusted, so therefore have no value or truths. You have choices to either fall into the temptations of the many deceptions of Satan or seek the truth of God through Christ, for He alone is the ONLY Son of GOD, and the author of truth. you wrote.. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices.

The middle east has absolutely NOTHING to do with the wrath of God,  the truth of the plan of salvation and the events of the return. The middle east is full of Muslims, Jews and Catholics which are NONE of the true disciples of Christ and are treated just like any other infidel and wicked. The bible DOES contain all the answers when obeyed and lived accordingly, as when followed precisely the Holy Spirit comes to guide man into all truths. Traditions of men are worthless for they are from man and NOT GOD! —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you wrote.. Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. No, degradation and eventual destruction is all you will be seeing soon. That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. And all the scholars and sinners will be destroyed by the time YOU THINK will come time. Isa 59:15-19 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. (KJV) Isa 2:7-22 7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots: 8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. 10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? (KJV) —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html (shuttling back and forth) Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? How petty and childish. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while

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you wrote.. Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. No, degradation and eventual destruction is all you will be seeing soon.

That’s one possibility. We may have choices though. We should be ready for surprises. The Imam Mahdi might arrive to reform Islam. Krishna promised to return when evil rules the world. Maitreya will arrive when Buddha is forgotten. There must be some sort of peace pact in the Middle East before the abomination, no? Also Mabus will die, then chaos follows. The Bible does not contain all the answers. Many traditions say we have choices. And – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – all the scholars and sinners will be destroyed by the time YOU THINK will come time. Isa 59:15-19 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. (KJV) Isa 2:7-22 7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots: 8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. 10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? (KJV) —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html (shuttling back and forth) Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? How petty and childish. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while Paul didn’t. Paul was the ultimate pitch man (who decided he had a better audience among Gentiles, who didn’t know the Scriptures well, especially the Messianic prophecies) who picked Jesus to be his idol to build his midrash around. If he picked Theudas or Simon Magus or Hanina ben Dosa to be his Messiah; you would be claiming to be his sister instead of Jesus. That’s how powerful Paul’s influence was to the Gentiles. Read about Rabbi Hillel and Hanina ben Dosa. it was written.. …by a dolt who claims she’s God returned… Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in

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you wrote.. Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady.

No, degradation and eventual destruction is all you will be seeing soon. And all the scholars and sinners will be destroyed by the time YOU THINK will come time. Isa 59:15-19 15 Yea, truth faileth; and he that departeth from evil maketh himself a prey: and the LORD saw it, and it displeased him that there was no judgment. 16 And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him. 17 For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke. 18 According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence. 19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. (KJV) Isa 2:7-22 7 Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots: 8 Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made: 9 And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not. 10 Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty. 11 The lofty looks of man shall be humbled, and the haughtiness of men shall be bowed down, and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 12 For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low: 13 And upon all the cedars of Lebanon, that are high and lifted up, and upon all the oaks of Bashan, 14 And upon all the high mountains, and upon all the hills that are lifted up, 15 And upon every high tower, and upon every fenced wall, 16 And upon all the ships of Tarshish, and upon all pleasant pictures. 17 And the loftiness of man shall be bowed down, and the haughtiness of men shall be made low: and the LORD alone shall be exalted in that day. 18 And the idols he shall utterly abolish. 19 And they shall go into the holes of the rocks, and into the caves of the earth, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats; 21 To go into the clefts of the rocks, and into the tops of the ragged rocks, for fear of the LORD, and for the glory of his majesty, when he ariseth to shake terribly the earth. 22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of? (KJV) —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) http://members.tripod.com/~spirit_of_prophecy/index.html

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – (shuttling back and forth) Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady. you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? How petty and childish. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while Paul didn’t. Paul was the ultimate pitch man (who decided he had a better audience among Gentiles, who didn’t know the Scriptures well, especially the Messianic prophecies) who picked Jesus to be his idol to build his midrash around. If he picked Theudas or Simon Magus or Hanina ben Dosa to be his Messiah; you would be claiming to be his sister instead of Jesus. That’s how powerful Paul’s influence was to the Gentiles. Read about Rabbi Hillel and Hanina ben Dosa. it was written.. …by a dolt who claims she’s God returned… Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. you wrote.. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? you wrote.. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. The arrogance of the evil doers,

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(shuttling back and forth) Dore, we can have some unimportant arguments soon. The important debates are years away. Nice to see you’re in good fighting form. Talk with ya later, funny lady.

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? How petty and childish. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while Paul didn’t. Paul was the ultimate pitch man (who decided he had a better audience among Gentiles, who didn’t know the Scriptures well, especially the Messianic prophecies) who picked Jesus to be his idol to build his midrash around. If he picked Theudas or Simon Magus or Hanina ben Dosa to be his Messiah; you would be claiming to be his sister instead of Jesus. That’s how powerful Paul’s influence was to the Gentiles. Read about Rabbi Hillel and Hanina ben Dosa. it was written.. …by a dolt who claims she’s God returned… Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. you wrote.. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? you wrote.. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. The arrogance of the evil doers, the wicked, the idolaters, the oppressors, causing the wrath of God is the danger. If man would repent and walk according to all that Christ said, then the destruction, wrath and vengeance would be thwarted. Some of what he purportedly said…the beatitudes are positive poetically and ideally. —  Dore

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you wrote. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you.

Scholars are not the chosen judges, and do not have the power to redeem or condemn. God warned that He sent His Son to be the ONLY way to Him. Scholars can disagree until they are dead, but the fact remains the same. There is NO debate. It is just pure plain reality and truth. you wrote.. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth.

Yes, since I explained what happened in great detail of why those prophecies were said in error. It is part of growing and maturing in God and learning to discern lies from truth. it was written. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now.

NO, judgment day is NOW!  There is NO debate on God’s requirements for salvation for man does NOT have the authority to question GOD. it was written.. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes.

Mistakes are NOT evil and sin. There are errors while growing, learning and discerning the truth. I don’t continually make mistakes. I made mistakes 3 years ago and you act like I am still in that lower level of learning. I learned from those mistakes into greater discernment and knowledge of how evil spirits deceive. I don’t make them anymore. it was written..   Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there?

How petty and childish. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV)

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while Paul didn’t. Paul was the ultimate pitch man (who decided he had a better audience among Gentiles, who didn’t know the Scriptures well, especially the Messianic prophecies) who picked Jesus to be his idol to build his midrash around. If he picked Theudas or Simon Magus or Hanina ben Dosa to be his Messiah; you would be claiming to be his sister instead of Jesus. That’s how powerful Paul’s influence was to the Gentiles. Read about Rabbi Hillel and Hanina ben Dosa. it was written.. …by a dolt who claims she’s God returned… Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ. This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine. Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Then condemnation is all that can be expected. This must be debated years from now. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. you wrote.. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? you wrote.. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. The arrogance of the evil doers, the wicked, the idolaters, the oppressors, causing the wrath of God is the danger. If man would repent and walk according to all that Christ said, then the destruction, wrath and vengeance would be thwarted. Some of what he purportedly said…the beatitudes are positive poetically and ideally. —  Dore

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you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s.

Er, god the daughter, if Jesus’ brother James were to have read that, he would’ve slapped you silly, because he lived with the real Jesus while Paul didn’t. Paul was the ultimate pitch man (who decided he had a better audience among Gentiles, who didn’t know the Scriptures well, especially the Messianic prophecies) who picked Jesus to be his idol to build his midrash around. If he picked Theudas or Simon Magus or Hanina ben Dosa to be his Messiah; you would be claiming to be his sister instead of Jesus. That’s how powerful Paul’s influence was to the Gentiles. Read about Rabbi Hillel and Hanina ben Dosa. it was written..

…by a dolt who claims she’s God returned… Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ.

This must be debated several years from now, by scholars, not by silly god pretenders like you. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine.

Your prophecies were false, yet you "know" the truth. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Then condemnation is all that can be expected.

This must be debated years from now. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here. Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD!

And you are his daughter, who continually makes mistakes. you wrote.. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things.

Describe the eternity of things. Are the aliens and Clinton satellites there? you wrote.. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. The arrogance of the evil doers, the wicked, the idolaters, the oppressors, causing the wrath of God is the danger. If man would repent and walk according to all that Christ said, then the destruction, wrath and vengeance would be thwarted.

Some of what he purportedly said…the beatitudes are positive poetically and ideally. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —  Dore

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Anyone who believes that puppet Saddam is the AC must be lost. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The totally confused and the totally lost exchange views, where else can you get entertainment like this? Tony Uhhhhhhhh…. Help me out here, Tony. Are you the "totally confused" or the "totally lost"? Is it possible for someone who is confused to accurately assess whether another is confused? Is it possible for someone who is lost (can a person be UNtotally lost?) to be able to determine whether another person is lost? Perhaps the MOST confused person is the one who is so damnably, godawfully CERTAIN that he is not con- fused that it NEVER enters his mind. Perhaps the one who is LOST is the one who carries around with himself the idea that it is everyone ELSE who is lost. And, pray tell, WHAT kind of "entertainment" is this? Being lost and being confused is NOT a GOOD thing. So, do you think this is comedy? Or do you think this is an entertaining drama? And, certainly, being entertained for FREE is better than the entertainment provided by the religious officials for BILLIONS of dollars… The ultimate price for which is the BLOOD that is now being shed in the Middle East. Sure hope you are ENJOYING yourself here. Michael Cecil

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it was written.. Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ This is a Greek-pagan term.

No, the term means exactly what the Greek implies, MESSIAH, SAVIOUR and it is truth. you wrote.. If, by this is meant a denial of the metaphysical philosophy of Christianity, then this is a *good* thing.

How is the realm of the spirit and kingdom of God, in your term, metaphysical,  something to be denied as being "good"? you wrote.. Seriously problematical.

Only problematical to those who deny God and Christ. you wrote.. God is not a respecter of persons. The problem for Israel is not the rejection of any "Christ", but the rejection of Revealed Truth.

You are right, God is NOT a respecter of persons, so matter what man thinks in his religious philosophies, God will NOT respect them. It is ONLY through all the truths and obedience to Christ that God even recognizes. you wrote.. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus.

No, they are steeped in evil and God has abandoned them when they murdered His ONLY Son. What man demands to be focused on for their own comforts is THEIR problem, NOT God’s. it was written.. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue.

Actually it is the ONLY issue. For no man can be saved, nor come into the glory of the Father and heaven without Christ. you wrote.. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue.

No, the truth is the truth, NO matter what books man chooses to demand to be honored. They will be condemned and destroyed no matter what they expect from God or man’s selfish doctrine. you wrote.. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation.

Then condemnation is all that can be expected. it was written.. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here.

Evil and evil doers, idolaters and rebellious against God get what they deserve in perfect justification of their choices. NO gloating just fact. God MUST be honored and respected no matter what man desires. HE IS GOD! you wrote.. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction.

Doesn’t matter. the righteous will reap the rewards of their obedience and the wicked will reap the condemnation of their disobedience. This life is only a  mere consequence of time in the eternity of things. you wrote.. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet.

The arrogance of the evil doers, the wicked, the idolaters, the oppressors, causing the wrath of God is the danger. If man would repent and walk according to all that Christ said, then the destruction, wrath and vengeance would be thwarted. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ This is a Greek-pagan term. If, by this is meant a denial of the metaphysical philosophy of Christianity, then this is a *good* thing. and thus have been denied by God. Seriously problematical. God is not a respecter of persons. The problem for Israel is not the rejection of any "Christ", but the rejection of Revealed Truth. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? This is not really the issue. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. Sounds like you are gloating here. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. —  Dore Michael Cecil

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Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ

This is a Greek-pagan term. If, by this is meant a denial of the metaphysical philosophy of Christianity, then this is a *good* thing. and thus have been denied by God.

Seriously problematical. God is not a respecter of persons. The problem for Israel is not the rejection of any "Christ", but the rejection of Revealed Truth. In my experience it is just better not even to mention the issue of Jesus Christ to the Jews; much better to focus on what his Teaching was as compared to the teaching of Paul which con- tradicts the Teaching of Jesus. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ?

This is not really the issue. The issue is when will they abide by the Revelations in the Torah and the Prophets? When will they abide by the Revelations in the Koran? This is a *Doctrinal* issue. Personalizing it by focusing on Jesus does not really help, in my estimation. Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance.

Sounds like you are gloating here. Problem is that not only they will be involved in this destruction. Their arrogance and witlessness is dangerous for EVERYONE on this planet. —  Dore

Michael Cecil

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Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ and thus have been denied by God. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance.

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Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ and thus have been denied by God. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance.

Hey Dore, do you have a seat in the Security Council of the UN, to cast vetos. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) It is simply beyond human comprehension… That Israel continues to spiral downward into a chaos of violence and bloodshed and suffering… And yet, the Israeli media–apparently utterly oblivious to the gravity of the situation–continues to censor and suppress the Truth, continues to act as if it is utterly *powerless* in the situation. Daily the Israeli media provides evidence that the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is incapable of being resolved by the poli- ticians or the diplomats. Daily the Israeli media reports incidences of bloodshed, or threats of revenge, or predictions of the violence and bloodshed to come, or ‘jus- tifications’ by one side or the other for the blood which has already been shed; or even, on occasion, apologies for the blood which has been shed ‘in error’–accompanied, of course, by relentless protestations of just how much ‘peace’ is what all of these people *genuinely* desire. But violence and bloodshed, no matter *how* ‘justified’, will never resolve the problem, but will only lead to more violence and bloodshed. Violence not only increases the suffering, and the hatred, and the calls for revenge among the victims. Violence also brutalizes the perpetrators, forcing them to cling ever more desperately to the excuses they use to ‘justify’ their violence; forcing them to become less and less sensitive to the suffering they have inflicted; forcing them to look upon the suffering of their vic- tims as less and less real, more and more ‘contrived’ for the purpose of winning an ‘undeserved’ sympathy… Forcing them to become hard-hearted and then heartless, less and less human, and more and more deserving of an escalation of hatred and violence and bloodshed. The politicians and diplomats, of course, continue to insist that they are capable of resolving this conflict ‘peacefully’ despite *massive* evidence to the contrary; despite the rapidly growing numbers of dead and seriously wounded; despite those–Arabs and Jews–who can only look forward to merely living out the rest of their lives in utter terror at what each new day will bring… And despite the increasing numbers of mothers whose sorrow is unbearable and whose tears are endless. But, the "magical thinking" of the Jews, the Christians, and the Mus- lims aside for a moment, there is NO ‘M’essiah who can STOP this. There is NO ‘M’essiah–with ANY number of Miracles–who can force those in power in Israel to turn their hearts in humility toward the Truth, or to turn their hearts in compassion toward the suffering of those whom they hate. Hatred and violence and bloodshed will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Jerusalem–the Israeli media, the politicians, and the religious officials–have decided that they have had ENOUGH… Hatred and violence and bloodshed in Israel will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Israel have decided that they WANT it to stop… Which, apparently, will require a *direct* Intervention of God Himself, inasmuch as the media officials, the politicians, and the religious officials in Jerusalem are motivated by arrogance, greed, and the lust for power. In response to this violence, I have suggested that the Truth about the Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"–the Truth of the Revelations in the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Koran– be publicized by the Israeli media in Jerusalem. But I am not suggesting that, were the Truth to be publicized in Jer- usalem today, Peace would arrive tomorrow between the Israelis and the Palestinians, between the Jews and the Arabs, or between the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims. For the Israeli media to inform those in Jerusalem of the Truth–and for that Truth to be acknowledged–would merely be the first step in not only the *abandoning* of a political process which will CERTAINLY lead to a military conflict; but, also, the adoption of a completely differ- ent perspective for resolving this conflict. Thus, I urge all those with a gentle heart and a genuine desire for Peace to contact the following representatives of the Israeli media for the purpose of impressing upon them the importance of abandoning the "peace process" before it is too late; and turning, instead, to a resolution of the theological conflicts upon which this political con- flict is based by publicizing the Truth about the Revelation and Doc- trine of the "resurrection of the dead" in fulfillment of the Proph- ecy of Daniel 12:9: Arutz 7: arutzsheva.org Michael Cecil (Daniel 12:1, Sura 2:98 of the Koran, Column XVII of the "Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light") Sarai/Sarah–Mohammed–Elizabeth Cecil (Daniel 12:9) Web page on Suppressed Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi Codices Research and the Unsealing of the Revelation of John at: http://www.geocities.com:80/Athens/Rhodes/7031/deadsea.html

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It is simply beyond human comprehension… That Israel continues to spiral downward into a chaos of violence and bloodshed and suffering… And yet, the Israeli media–apparently utterly oblivious to the gravity of the situation–continues to censor and suppress the Truth, continues to act as if it is utterly *powerless* in the situation. Daily the Israeli media provides evidence that the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is incapable of being resolved by the poli- ticians or the diplomats. Daily the Israeli media reports incidences of bloodshed, or threats of revenge, or predictions of the violence and bloodshed to come, or ‘jus- tifications’ by one side or the other for the blood which has already been shed; or even, on occasion, apologies for the blood which has been shed ‘in error’–accompanied, of course, by relentless protestations of just how much ‘peace’ is what all of these people *genuinely* desire. But violence and bloodshed, no matter *how* ‘justified’, will never resolve the problem, but will only lead to more violence and bloodshed. Violence not only increases the suffering, and the hatred, and the calls for revenge among the victims. Violence also brutalizes the perpetrators, forcing them to cling ever more desperately to the excuses they use to ‘justify’ their violence; forcing them to become less and less sensitive to the suffering they have inflicted; forcing them to look upon the suffering of their vic- tims as less and less real, more and more ‘contrived’ for the purpose of winning an ‘undeserved’ sympathy… Forcing them to become hard-hearted and then heartless, less and less human, and more and more deserving of an escalation of hatred and violence and bloodshed. The politicians and diplomats, of course, continue to insist that they are capable of resolving this conflict ‘peacefully’ despite *massive* evidence to the contrary; despite the rapidly growing numbers of dead and seriously wounded; despite those–Arabs and Jews–who can only look forward to merely living out the rest of their lives in utter terror at what each new day will bring… And despite the increasing numbers of mothers whose sorrow is unbearable and whose tears are endless. But, the "magical thinking" of the Jews, the Christians, and the Mus- lims aside for a moment, there is NO ‘M’essiah who can STOP this. There is NO ‘M’essiah–with ANY number of Miracles–who can force those in power in Israel to turn their hearts in humility toward the Truth, or to turn their hearts in compassion toward the suffering of those whom they hate. Hatred and violence and bloodshed will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Jerusalem–the Israeli media, the politicians, and the religious officials–have decided that they have had ENOUGH… Hatred and violence and bloodshed in Israel will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Israel have decided that they WANT it to stop… Which, apparently, will require a *direct* Intervention of God Himself, inasmuch as the media officials, the politicians, and the religious officials in Jerusalem are motivated by arrogance, greed, and the lust for power. In response to this violence, I have suggested that the Truth about the Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"–the Truth of the Revelations in the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Koran– be publicized by the Israeli media in Jerusalem. But I am not suggesting that, were the Truth to be publicized in Jer- usalem today, Peace would arrive tomorrow between the Israelis and the Palestinians, between the Jews and the Arabs, or between the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims. For the Israeli media to inform those in Jerusalem of the Truth–and for that Truth to be acknowledged–would merely be the first step in not only the *abandoning* of a political process which will CERTAINLY lead to a military conflict; but, also, the adoption of a completely differ- ent perspective for resolving this conflict. Thus, I urge all those with a gentle heart and a genuine desire for Peace to contact the following representatives of the Israeli media for the purpose of impressing upon them the importance of abandoning the "peace process" before it is too late; and turning, instead, to a resolution of the theological conflicts upon which this political con- flict is based by publicizing the Truth about the Revelation and Doc- trine of the "resurrection of the dead" in fulfillment of the Proph- ecy of Daniel 12:9: Arutz 7: arutzsheva.org Michael Cecil (Daniel 12:1, Sura 2:98 of the Koran, Column XVII of the "Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light") Sarai/Sarah–Mohammed–Elizabeth Cecil (Daniel 12:9) Web page on Suppressed Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi Codices Research and the Unsealing of the Revelation of John at: http://www.geocities.com:80/Athens/Rhodes/7031/deadsea.html

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Anyone who believes that puppet Saddam is the AC must be lost.

Who is Saddam a puppet to? Woods

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Anyone who believes that puppet Saddam is the AC must be lost. Who is Saddam a puppet to? Woods

Well, to me it’s kind of complex. The worst possible enemy is the axis of Eastern nations. If you have time, you can try breezing through the following two articles at the Newsmax site:  http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/5/18/180458.shtml http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/5/17/211645.shtml The second one is an interesting article about crazy Zhirinovsky’s call for an Eastern axis. Some of his comments are to be ignored. But no world leader can ignore the bulk of his message. There is no way Putin, Jiang, and Bush, Powell, etc. can ignore Zhirinovsky’s statements. I stated about two weeks ago that Saddam and bin Laden might be as helpful to the US as they are a threat. I thought Powell would have noticed that possibility when he stated the US would contain and deter Iran. And lo and behold, Saddam is catching a few breaks more than usual from the US lately, as seen by Tony’s articles. As proof of Powell’s intention to prevent the Eastern axis or alliance, you might try looking at the following article: http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/05/17/us.afghanistan.aid/index.html Now we know that the US government let the North Koreans starve, but why is the US the biggest food donor to Afghanistan, when 95% of the country is controlled by the despised Taliban. Well it would seem to me that with the Afghan resistance being given assistance by Russia and Iran, the US is doing something not so strange, when you consider the strategy. Pakistan has been trying to lessen its ties with the Taliban, so that it can become good buddies with Iran, and Russia, in addition to China. The Taliban is kind of a millstone around Musharraf’s neck. So it might be a matter of keeping the Taliban strong (though they are harboring Osama). It doesn’t seem to be a matter of stopping the poppy growing. The Taliban was against that already, probably for religious reasons. Then on the one hand we scold Saddam and the Taliban, and on the other we ease restrictions on Saddam and feed the Afghanis. Saddam and the Taliban are arch enemies of Iran. And as long as Pakistan has significant ties with the Taliban, the former can’t get very close with Russia and Iran. It’s a strange world after all. Plus obviously Saddam was supported by the US in the Iran-Iraq war, to contain the Islamic revolution of Khomeini. Also, Saddam, when he became a threat, was apparently lured into a trap by the US State Department, as we have heard already; which significantly weakened Saddam’s military might post-Gulf War. Plus Saddam is being armed by Russia now, and he’s getting fiber optic help from China (the Huawei company has been busy in the Middle East). So Saddam is being played for a puppet by more powerful nations. the Russians want to use Saddam against washington as a distraction from their own alliance. The US wants Saddam in power in Iraq, to prevent the majority Shiites from controlling the government. That could solidify Iranian influence over much of the oil in the region (if Saddam were toppled from power). If Jean reads this, I haven’t done much research on the Palestinian-Israeli conflict lately. A lot of attention is being focused there already by very well-informed people. Anyway, that’s what I mean about Saddam being a puppet, and actually a dupe. I don’t know if this is all correct though.

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Yea, that’s what happens to those who deny Christ and thus have been denied by God. Now, seriously, when do you think that Israel and Palestine will repent and OBEY the teachings, demands, commands and requirements of Christ? Not likely, so sit back and watch their destruction in this day of judgment and vengeance. —  Dore Ps 91:1 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. (KJV) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – It is simply beyond human comprehension… That Israel continues to spiral downward into a chaos of violence and bloodshed and suffering… And yet, the Israeli media–apparently utterly oblivious to the gravity of the situation–continues to censor and suppress the Truth, continues to act as if it is utterly *powerless* in the situation. Daily the Israeli media provides evidence that the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is incapable of being resolved by the poli- ticians or the diplomats. Daily the Israeli media reports incidences of bloodshed, or threats of revenge, or predictions of the violence and bloodshed to come, or ‘jus- tifications’ by one side or the other for the blood which has already been shed; or even, on occasion, apologies for the blood which has been shed ‘in error’–accompanied, of course, by relentless protestations of just how much ‘peace’ is what all of these people *genuinely* desire. But violence and bloodshed, no matter *how* ‘justified’, will never resolve the problem, but will only lead to more violence and bloodshed. Violence not only increases the suffering, and the hatred, and the calls for revenge among the victims. Violence also brutalizes the perpetrators, forcing them to cling ever more desperately to the excuses they use to ‘justify’ their violence; forcing them to become less and less sensitive to the suffering they have inflicted; forcing them to look upon the suffering of their vic- tims as less and less real, more and more ‘contrived’ for the purpose of winning an ‘undeserved’ sympathy… Forcing them to become hard-hearted and then heartless, less and less human, and more and more deserving of an escalation of hatred and violence and bloodshed. The politicians and diplomats, of course, continue to insist that they are capable of resolving this conflict ‘peacefully’ despite *massive* evidence to the contrary; despite the rapidly growing numbers of dead and seriously wounded; despite those–Arabs and Jews–who can only look forward to merely living out the rest of their lives in utter terror at what each new day will bring… And despite the increasing numbers of mothers whose sorrow is unbearable and whose tears are endless. But, the "magical thinking" of the Jews, the Christians, and the Mus- lims aside for a moment, there is NO ‘M’essiah who can STOP this. There is NO ‘M’essiah–with ANY number of Miracles–who can force those in power in Israel to turn their hearts in humility toward the Truth, or to turn their hearts in compassion toward the suffering of those whom they hate. Hatred and violence and bloodshed will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Jerusalem–the Israeli media, the politicians, and the religious officials–have decided that they have had ENOUGH… Hatred and violence and bloodshed in Israel will be stopped *only* when those in positions of power in Israel have decided that they WANT it to stop… Which, apparently, will require a *direct* Intervention of God Himself, inasmuch as the media officials, the politicians, and the religious officials in Jerusalem are motivated by arrogance, greed, and the lust for power. In response to this violence, I have suggested that the Truth about the Revelation and Doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead"–the Truth of the Revelations in the Torah, the Prophets, the Gospels and the Koran– be publicized by the Israeli media in Jerusalem. But I am not suggesting that, were the Truth to be publicized in Jer- usalem today, Peace would arrive tomorrow between the Israelis and the Palestinians, between the Jews and the Arabs, or between the Jews, the Christians and the Muslims. For the Israeli media to inform those in Jerusalem of the Truth–and for that Truth to be acknowledged–would merely be the first step in not only the *abandoning* of a political process which will CERTAINLY lead to a military conflict; but, also, the adoption of a completely differ- ent perspective for resolving this conflict. Thus, I urge all those with a gentle heart and a genuine desire for Peace to contact the following representatives of the Israeli media for the purpose of impressing upon them the importance of abandoning the "peace process" before it is too late; and turning, instead, to a resolution of the theological conflicts upon which this political con- flict is based by publicizing the Truth about the Revelation and Doc- trine of the "resurrection of the dead" in fulfillment of the Proph- ecy of Daniel 12:9: Arutz 7: arutzsheva.org Michael Cecil (Daniel 12:1, Sura 2:98 of the Koran, Column XVII of the "Scroll of the War of the Sons of Light") Sarai/Sarah–Mohammed–Elizabeth Cecil (Daniel 12:9) Web page on Suppressed Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi Codices Research and the Unsealing of the Revelation of John at: http://www.geocities.com:80/Athens/Rhodes/7031/deadsea.html

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