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there 2 Jesus’s and only one is the true Jesus. There is Jesus who is the son of God and his father is God. The other Jesus that some preach say that Jesus is God. which one will you follow?
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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Jesus is the son of God and God is with him.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Ok, you are saying because only the gospel of John reports the specific incident, that he MIGHT have been LYING! You apparently don’t understand the nature of the gospels. Let me fill you in. They are four perspectives of humans reporting the things that happened and each focuses on different things that they were closer to or thought covered the point in the time they had to write. Matthew says the SAME THING in 28:16. There are TWO witnesses that the disciples WORSHIPPED. So are you saying the ONLY TWO EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT GOSPEL WRITERS WERE…LIARS? Yes or no. An intelligent person would realize that God arranged things to SHUT the mouths of people who would deny the validity of any of the gospels! These are FOUR PARALELL WITNESSES written OBVIOUSLY in totally different places and there isn’t a SINGLE CONFLICT in the data presented technically. Hheheheh. You’d have to be dropping some serious acid or something to miss the significance of this. Two eyewitnesses and two who spoke to eyewitnesses and/or people who did. And all the stories jive completely. That is IMPOSSIBLE for a liar to do. So…get a clue I guess. -Bob There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases… For God was with him. < I Corinthians 14:25 < Acts 10:38 particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-) There is only one witness of this event. According to the Law of God there is a necessity of two witnesses to establish a word as truth. < John 8:17 < John 5:31 Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God. (WHEW) Have you got on the blinders and mixed signals. RED Light. If perhaps you think that you can verify each of those titles, I will discuss them with you. Otherwise, you are gone overboard and need to listen to what Karen said. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped. These two here are express for God only. First Commandment. No man worship, < Isaiah 8 says that Jesus, TSOM, will be for a stone of stumbling, because men set him up as an idol in their heart worshipping the creature more than the Creator. < Romans 1:23-25 If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found. Again, see I Corinthians 14:25 and note that Jesus, TSOM, is a very special person. He is the descendent of King David, the rightful heir to the Throne of David. The Stone that the builders rejected. The King of Israel was honoured, not as God is worshipped but as Royalty, Anointed by God. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him. Paul was a self confessed Apostle. Jesus, TSOM, never told his disciples about Paul and he had a rocky road convincing them. He is shown to have problems with Peter, in Galatians, and also, Peter warned in II Peter 3:16-17 about the teachings and scriptures of Paul… "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE" (Did you get that, Mr. Winter?), that is, "BEWARE LEST YE ALSO, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own stedfastness." Again, "being led away with the error of the wicked". The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship. Why? It is because he had the Testimony of Jesus. Jesus, TSOM, made it very clear that only God was to be worshipped. And here, in < Matthew 19:17 we see that he states that only "one" is good, and if you will enter into life, keep the Commandments of God. He likewise said in < Matthew 5 that not one jot or tittle would be changed regarding the Law. And the Sabbath is the seventh day, yet the RCC changed the day, and that means that everyone who will keep dies domini is breaking the Commandment of God, by worshipping on the first day of the week. < Revelation 22:14-15 There is only one. And that ONE is not Jesus, TSOM. < Philippians 2:9 Who is God? The math isn’t hard. 
-Bob Good, then you go figure, Bob. < John 20:17 < Revelation 3:12 Remember the Sabbath day of the Lord our God and also of His Anointed. For ‘to morrow’ (Sunday) is not like ‘this day’ (Saturday) Isaiah 56:12 Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There is only one *true* God. (John 17:3) Jesus was/is a worshiper of that God, served that God, prayed to that God. His Name is Jehovah(your pronunciation may vary). (Ps. 83:18; Micah 5:4; John 4:22; Acts 3:13) All other gods than Jehovah are either false or a *reflection* of the true God. (Isaiah 42:8; John 10:34-36; Heb. 1:3) Jehovah *alone* is God in the absolute sense of the word. Psa 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name **alone** is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Ex. 7:1 "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘"See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.’" Of course, Moses was not the *true* God, nor was he of divine origin. But Jehovah chose to give him this title as His spokesman. Peace. – for humble Christian Bible study Humble? How about stupid? Anyone for stupid? Slanted? perverse? based on lies and deception? http://www.watchtower.org/
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – there 2 Jesus’s and only one is the true Jesus. There is Jesus who is the son of God and his father is God. The other Jesus that some preach say that Jesus is God. which one will you follow? One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases…particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-) Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped. If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him. The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship. There is only one. The math isn’t hard. -Bob
Jesus was/is our Mediator between his God and men. These others, including the angel, are *not*. Who did Jesus worship and pray to? Why was he called God’s *servant*, even after his resurrection and glorification? Did you know that "I am" is not what was uttered in Hebrew at Ex. 3:14? May you have peace. — for humble Christian Bible study: http://www.watchtower.org/
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You might want to try reading the message you quoted to get off to a flying start, troll. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – allow me to ask you, where is mentioned a devil in the bible ? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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Ok, you are saying because only the gospel of John reports the specific incident, that he MIGHT have been LYING! You apparently don’t understand the nature of the gospels. Let me fill you in. They are four perspectives of humans reporting the things that happened and each focuses on different things that they were closer to or thought covered the point in the time they had to write. Matthew says the SAME THING in 28:16. There are TWO witnesses that the disciples WORSHIPPED. So are you saying the
? ONLY TWO EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT GOSPEL WRITERS WERE…LIARS? Yes or no.
I love your style. Black or white. Believe what you will. Do the King’s men give him honour? In Greek they use the word worship for all sorts of postures, but did they give him the same worship that they gave God? In England, and in many courts, they say, My Worship. Why? Do they think the Judge is God? No. It is respect due to Authority. Jesus, was their master, or Rabbi. He was due respect. And is indeed due respect, but he attributed all Glory to God. An intelligent person would realize that God arranged things to SHUT the mouths of people who would deny the validity of any of the gospels! These are FOUR PARALELL WITNESSES written OBVIOUSLY in totally different places and there isn’t a SINGLE CONFLICT in the data presented technically.
Ok, here we go. There are hundreds of inconsistencies in the four gospels. However, let’s look at one for example… In < Matthew 11:2-3, John sends two of his disciples to Jesus, TSOM. This is after Jesus, TSOM, had been to see John in the wilderness, insisting on the baptism unto repentance by John the Baptist. Now they ask Jesus, TSOM, "Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?", remembering that this is John the Baptist asking. Please proceed to < John 1:32, "And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said to me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost." Two things of many more, but to that which is important here. Firstly, Mary is Elizabeth’s cousin < Luke 1:36, and here John says that he knew him not in the above verses. Secondly, why did John the Baptist, after seeing the Spirit descend upon Jesus, TSOM, send two of his disciples to ask Jesus, TSOM, if he was the Messiah? See how these things can get compounded one upon another? Hheheheh. You’d have to be dropping some serious acid or something to miss the significance of this. Two eyewitnesses and two who spoke to eyewitnesses and/or people who did. And all the stories jive completely. That is IMPOSSIBLE for a liar to do. So…get a clue I guess. -Bob
Hmm. That was only the beginning of my witnesses. So answer that one and we can move on to another. Ah, let’s do another now… Jesus, TSOM, is stated as saying, "He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also, and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father." Now, tell me, anyone, who has done greater works. Name one person who has done greater works? Well Bob, you are off to the morgue at your convenience, better sooner than later, perhaps you could raise two from the dead for us. You believe, right? I would like to hear about it, on, say, CNN, perhaps BBC. You could tell us on the newsgroup when your story is going to run. And while you are there, you could empty the local hospital. Ok? I would like to hear that ‘all’ were healed in one day. Ok? Furthermore, there is only one witness to this saying. Hmmm. Isn’t that curious? Ok, enough folly, give me one name of someone who has raised two people from the dead. BTW, the Lazarus story only has one witness. All those disciples didn’t write about Lazarus, tisk, tisk! Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases… For God was with him. < I Corinthians 14:25 < Acts 10:38 particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-) There is only one witness of this event. According to the Law of God there is a necessity of two witnesses to establish a word as truth. < John 8:17 < John 5:31 Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God. (WHEW) Have you got on the blinders and mixed signals. RED Light. If perhaps you think that you can verify each of those titles, I will discuss them with you. Otherwise, you are gone overboard and need to listen to what Karen said. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped. These two here are express for God only. First Commandment. No man worship, < Isaiah 8 says that Jesus, TSOM, will be for a stone of stumbling, because men set him up as an idol in their heart worshipping the creature more than the Creator. < Romans 1:23-25 If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found. Again, see I Corinthians 14:25 and note that Jesus, TSOM, is a very special person. He is the descendent of King David, the rightful heir to the Throne of David. The Stone that the builders rejected. The King of Israel was honoured, not as God is worshipped but as Royalty, Anointed by God. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him. Paul was a self confessed Apostle. Jesus, TSOM, never told his disciples about Paul and he had a rocky road convincing them. He is shown to have problems with Peter, in Galatians, and also, Peter warned in II Peter 3:16-17 about the teachings and scriptures of Paul… "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE" (Did you get that, Mr. Winter?), that is, "BEWARE LEST YE ALSO, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own stedfastness." Again, "being led away with the error of the wicked". The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship. Why? It is because he had the Testimony of Jesus. Jesus, TSOM, made it very clear that only God was to be worshipped. And here, in < Matthew 19:17 we see that he states that only "one" is good, and if you will enter into life, keep the Commandments of God. He likewise said in < Matthew 5 that not one jot or tittle would be changed regarding the Law. And the Sabbath is the seventh day, yet the RCC changed the day, and that means that everyone who will keep dies domini is breaking the Commandment of God, by worshipping on the first day of the week. < Revelation 22:14-15 There is only one. And that ONE is not Jesus, TSOM. < Philippians 2:9 Who is God? The math isn’t hard. -Bob Good, then you go figure, Bob. < John 20:17 < Revelation 3:12 Remember the Sabbath day of the Lord our God and also of His Anointed. For ‘to morrow’ (Sunday) is not like ‘this day’ (Saturday) Isaiah 56:12 Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There is only one *true* God. (John 17:3) Jesus was/is a worshiper of that God, served that God, prayed to that God. His Name is Jehovah(your pronunciation may vary). (Ps. 83:18; Micah 5:4; John 4:22; Acts 3:13) All other gods than Jehovah are either false or a *reflection* of the true God. (Isaiah 42:8; John 10:34-36; Heb. 1:3) Jehovah *alone* is God in the absolute sense of the word. Psa 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name **alone** is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Ex. 7:1 "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘"See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.’" Of course, Moses was not the *true* God, nor was he of divine origin. But Jehovah chose to give him this title as His spokesman. Peace. – for humble Christian Bible study Humble? How about stupid? Anyone for stupid? Slanted? perverse? based on lies and deception? http://www.watchtower.org/
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And that ONE is not Jesus, TSOM. < Philippians 2:9 Who is God? The math isn’t hard. -Bob
Indeed, as Bertrand Russell pointed out, if 3=1 then any number can be shown to be equal to any other number (add 1 both sides: 3+1=1+1 .: 4=2 divide by 2: 2=1) and I can be shown to be the Pope. (The Pope and I are two, 2=1, The Pope and I are one.) Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever
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There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases…particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-) Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped. If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him. The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship. There is only one. The math isn’t hard. -Bob
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allow me to ask you, where is mentioned a devil in the bible ? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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Wow this seems to be the theme of the day. I just joined this group and there are so many posting strange things about what the bible says on the topic of Jesus/Y’shua’s deity.
The fundies come here thinking alt.atheism is conversion city. They very quickly learn that no one from this newsgroup has ever been converted to Christianity. In fact, most of the members of alt.atheism have deconverted from Christianity along with some who were once Jewish and a smidge who were once Muslims and Hindus. But, the fundies do keep on trying, poor ignorant saps. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? First of all, let me help you with the grammar on the verse. When you "annoint" someone, it’s symbolic of dispensing something of spiritual essence or the like. So let’s figure the logic. If God dispenses his "holy ghost" on Jesus ….does that necessarily mean that Jesus was…someone else before this? COULD he have DISPENSED this spirit at the very conception of his bodily form? Of course. The dove descended as a sign to man. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t already God’s spirit in the flesh of a man. Right? Some say God works in mysterious ways. I say it’s blatantly clear in this one though. God creates everyone with a free will. ALL sin and fall short of the glory of God. Christ didn’t sin. Therefore Christ ALREADY had the spirit of God at conception. And no other spirit. Because no other is perfect and worthy to do what he did. – so…For the fourth time or so in a few moments….they’re all the same. God is spirit. It may exceed the capacity you’ve chosen to limit your mind to, but God according to the SAME bible you pull things out of in hopes of disproving it….says that his spirit can be basically all over the place at once. Ezekiel has a vision of things related to this also. Anyway given this assertion, why would one have a problem with God’s spirit just being in Christ as he separates himself from the part of his being that is NOT "character oriented" (which defines who a person is.. I mean if you have character that is love, whether you have power or not…you are still an awesome person. Right? ) as in the source of power in the "godhead" or whatever you want to term it? Is that a problem? No. The bible is consistent. People just don’t read it all and they make ignorant presumptions based usually on what they want to be I guess. -Bob There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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An intelligent person would realize that God arranged things to SHUT the mouths of people who would deny the validity of any of the gospels! These are FOUR PARALELL WITNESSES written OBVIOUSLY in totally different places and there isn’t a SINGLE CONFLICT in the data presented technically.
How did Judas die? — John Hattan Grand High UberPope – First Church of Shatnerology
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Ok, you are saying because only the gospel of John reports the specific incident, that he MIGHT have been LYING! You apparently don’t understand the nature of the gospels. Let me fill you in. They are four perspectives of humans reporting the things that happened and each focuses on different things that they were closer to or thought covered the point in the time they had to write. Matthew says the SAME THING in 28:16. There are TWO witnesses that the disciples WORSHIPPED. So are you saying the ONLY TWO EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT GOSPEL WRITERS WERE…LIARS? Yes or no. An intelligent person would realize that God arranged things to SHUT the mouths of people who would deny the validity of any of the gospels! These are FOUR PARALELL WITNESSES written OBVIOUSLY in totally different places and there isn’t a SINGLE CONFLICT in the data presented technically. Hheheheh. You’d have to be dropping some serious acid or something to miss the significance of this. Two eyewitnesses and two who spoke to eyewitnesses and/or people who did. And all the stories jive completely. That is IMPOSSIBLE for a liar to do. So…get a clue I guess. -Bob
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases… For God was with him. < I Corinthians 14:25 < Acts 10:38 particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-) There is only one witness of this event. According to the Law of God there is a necessity of two witnesses to establish a word as truth. < John 8:17 < John 5:31 Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God. (WHEW) Have you got on the blinders and mixed signals. RED Light. If perhaps you think that you can verify each of those titles, I will discuss them with you. Otherwise, you are gone overboard and need to listen to what Karen said. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped. These two here are express for God only. First Commandment. No man worship, < Isaiah 8 says that Jesus, TSOM, will be for a stone of stumbling, because men set him up as an idol in their heart worshipping the creature more than the Creator. < Romans 1:23-25 If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found. Again, see I Corinthians 14:25 and note that Jesus, TSOM, is a very special person. He is the descendent of King David, the rightful heir to the Throne of David. The Stone that the builders rejected. The King of Israel was honoured, not as God is worshipped but as Royalty, Anointed by God. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him. Paul was a self confessed Apostle. Jesus, TSOM, never told his disciples about Paul and he had a rocky road convincing them. He is shown to have problems with Peter, in Galatians, and also, Peter warned in II Peter 3:16-17 about the teachings and scriptures of Paul… "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE" (Did you get that, Mr. Winter?), that is, "BEWARE LEST YE ALSO, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own stedfastness." Again, "being led away with the error of the wicked". The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship. Why? It is because he had the Testimony of Jesus. Jesus, TSOM, made it very clear that only God was to be worshipped. And here, in < Matthew 19:17 we see that he states that only "one" is good, and if you will enter into life, keep the Commandments of God. He likewise said in < Matthew 5 that not one jot or tittle would be changed regarding the Law. And the Sabbath is the seventh day, yet the RCC changed the day, and that means that everyone who will keep dies domini is breaking the Commandment of God, by worshipping on the first day of the week. < Revelation 22:14-15 There is only one. And that ONE is not Jesus, TSOM. < Philippians 2:9 Who is God? The math isn’t hard. -Bob Good, then you go figure, Bob. < John 20:17 < Revelation 3:12 Remember the Sabbath day of the Lord our God and also of His Anointed. For ‘to morrow’ (Sunday) is not like ‘this day’ (Saturday) Isaiah 56:12 Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There is only one *true* God. (John 17:3) Jesus was/is a worshiper of that God, served that God, prayed to that God. His Name is Jehovah(your pronunciation may vary). (Ps. 83:18; Micah 5:4; John 4:22; Acts 3:13) All other gods than Jehovah are either false or a *reflection* of the true God. (Isaiah 42:8; John 10:34-36; Heb. 1:3) Jehovah *alone* is God in the absolute sense of the word. Psa 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name **alone** is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Ex. 7:1 "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘"See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.’" Of course, Moses was not the *true* God, nor was he of divine origin. But Jehovah chose to give him this title as His spokesman. Peace. – for humble Christian Bible study Humble? How about stupid? Anyone for stupid? Slanted? perverse? based on lies and deception? http://www.watchtower.org/
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Wow this seems to be the theme of the day. I just joined this group and there are so many posting strange things about what the bible says on the topic of Jesus/Y’shua’s deity. One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? First of all, let me help you with the grammar on the verse. When you "annoint" someone, it’s symbolic of dispensing something of spiritual essence or the like. So let’s figure the logic. If God dispenses his "holy ghost" on Jesus ….does that necessarily mean that Jesus was…someone else before this? COULD he have DISPENSED this spirit at the very conception of his bodily form? Of course. The dove descended as a sign to man. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t already God’s spirit in the flesh of a man. Right? Some say God works in mysterious ways. I say it’s blatantly clear in this one though. God creates everyone with a free will. ALL sin and fall short of the glory of God. Christ didn’t sin. Therefore Christ ALREADY had the spirit of God at conception. And no other spirit. Because no other is perfect and worthy to do what he did.
In < Numbers 3:13, God makes all of the firstborn of Israel Holy to Him. He hallows them, and they are considered his Child. Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – - so…For the fourth time or so in a few moments….they’re all the same. God is spirit. It may exceed the capacity you’ve chosen to limit your mind to, but God according to the SAME bible you pull things out of in hopes of disproving it….says that his spirit can be basically all over the place at once. Ezekiel has a vision of things related to this also. Anyway given this assertion, why would one have a problem with God’s spirit just being in Christ as he separates himself from the part of his being that is NOT "character oriented" (which defines who a person is.. I mean if you have character that is love, whether you have power or not…you are still an awesome person. Right? ) as in the source of power in the "godhead" or whatever you want to term it? Is that a problem? No. The bible is consistent. People just don’t read it all and they make ignorant presumptions based usually on what they want to be I guess. -Bob There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
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First of all, let me help you with the grammar on the verse. When you "annoint" someone, it’s symbolic of dispensing something of spiritual essence or the like. So let’s figure the logic. If God dispenses his "holy ghost" on Jesus ….does that necessarily mean that Jesus was…someone else before this? COULD he have DISPENSED this spirit at the very conception of his bodily form? Of course. The dove descended as a sign to man.
Snip Azinnic: But during babtism of Jesus when the dove descended did not God in heaven also have something to say? I know I could look it up but not only is the Babble very,very heavy but my spirit is not willing and the flesh is weak! I remember clearly that my Sunday school teacher told me that whilst Jesus was standing in the water, a dove sat on his head and God said-this is my beloved Son in whom I am well-pleased. When I was a little older I read an article describing how -God sat on his own head whilst standing in the water and at the same time shouting down (from heaven) approbation on himself. This seared a permanent image into my brain that so far has resisted expungence by Babble grammarians. Care to give it a shot?. Regards—-Azinnic
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Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There is only one *true* God. (John 17:3) Jesus was/is a worshiper of that God, served that God, prayed to that God. His Name is Jehovah(your pronunciation may vary). (Ps. 83:18; Micah 5:4; John 4:22; Acts 3:13) All other gods than Jehovah are either false or a *reflection* of the true God. (Isaiah 42:8; John 10:34-36; Heb. 1:3) Jehovah *alone* is God in the absolute sense of the word. Psa 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name **alone** is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Ex. 7:1 "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘"See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.’" Of course, Moses was not the *true* God, nor was he of divine origin. But Jehovah chose to give him this title as His spokesman. Peace. – for humble Christian Bible study: http://www.watchtower.org/
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There is only one true God indeed. And only one that is worthy of worship. Jesus promoted worship of himself in many cases…
For God was with him. < I Corinthians 14:25 < Acts 10:38 particularly when Thomas flat out worshipped him and rather than rebuking him what’d he do? :-)
There is only one witness of this event. According to the Law of God there is a necessity of two witnesses to establish a word as truth. < John 8:17 < John 5:31 Therefore Jesus aka Y’shua aka the prince of peace aka the holy lamb of god aka the "I am" aka the son of David aka the alpha and the omega aka the way the truth and the life aka the king of the jews….etc…. is God.
(WHEW) Have you got on the blinders and mixed signals. RED Light. If perhaps you think that you can verify each of those titles, I will discuss them with you. Otherwise, you are gone overboard and need to listen to what Karen said. Or YHWH. Or whatever name he’s expressed for himself you want to use. ONE to be worshipped.
These two here are express for God only. First Commandment. No man worship, < Isaiah 8 says that Jesus, TSOM, will be for a stone of stumbling, because men set him up as an idol in their heart worshipping the creature more than the Creator. < Romans 1:23-25 If Jesus wasn’t him, he wouldn’t have allowed it or he’d have found the same fate Herod found.
Again, see I Corinthians 14:25 and note that Jesus, TSOM, is a very special person. He is the descendent of King David, the rightful heir to the Throne of David. The Stone that the builders rejected. The King of Israel was honoured, not as God is worshipped but as Royalty, Anointed by God. Paul tore his clothes when people started worshipping him.
Paul was a self confessed Apostle. Jesus, TSOM, never told his disciples about Paul and he had a rocky road convincing them. He is shown to have problems with Peter, in Galatians, and also, Peter warned in II Peter 3:16-17 about the teachings and scriptures of Paul… "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, BEWARE" (Did you get that, Mr. Winter?), that is, "BEWARE LEST YE ALSO, BEING LED AWAY WITH THE ERROR OF THE WICKED, fall from your own stedfastness." Again, "being led away with the error of the wicked". The Angel that came to John rebuked him for beginning to worship.
Why? It is because he had the Testimony of Jesus. Jesus, TSOM, made it very clear that only God was to be worshipped. And here, in < Matthew 19:17 we see that he states that only "one" is good, and if you will enter into life, keep the Commandments of God. He likewise said in < Matthew 5 that not one jot or tittle would be changed regarding the Law. And the Sabbath is the seventh day, yet the RCC changed the day, and that means that everyone who will keep dies domini is breaking the Commandment of God, by worshipping on the first day of the week. < Revelation 22:14-15 There is only one.
And that ONE is not Jesus, TSOM. < Philippians 2:9 Who is God? The math isn’t hard. -Bob Good, then you go figure, Bob. < John 20:17 < Revelation 3:12 Remember the Sabbath day of the Lord our God and also of His Anointed. For ‘to morrow’ (Sunday) is not like ‘this day’ (Saturday) Isaiah 56:12 Peace be with you through our Lord Jesus Christ And to Almighty God the Glory for ever and ever – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There is only one *true* God. (John 17:3) Jesus was/is a worshiper of that God, served that God, prayed to that God. His Name is Jehovah(your pronunciation may vary). (Ps. 83:18; Micah 5:4; John 4:22; Acts 3:13) All other gods than Jehovah are either false or a *reflection* of the true God. (Isaiah 42:8; John 10:34-36; Heb. 1:3) Jehovah *alone* is God in the absolute sense of the word. Psa 83:18 "That men may know that thou, whose name **alone** is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." Ex. 7:1 "And Jehovah said to Moses, ‘"See, I have made thee God to Pharaoh; and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.’" Of course, Moses was not the *true* God, nor was he of divine origin. But Jehovah chose to give him this title as His spokesman. Peace. – for humble Christian Bible study Humble? How about stupid? Anyone for stupid? Slanted? perverse? based on lies and deception? http://www.watchtower.org/
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One and only "ONE" God there is? Quote Acts 10:38 "How God" anointed "Jesus of Nazareth" with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. Okay, if God the Father, God the Jesus and God the Holy Ghost is the One and only "ONE" God there is, then tell me who is the God that anointed Jesus in the above verse? There you have it ! The truth of Pagan Christianity!
(repost – notepad messed up some of the editing) It’s hard to answer your question when it’s so grammatically fucked up. If you’re trying to say that the idea of the trinity makes the idea of there being only 1 God ridiculous then I’d say you’re right.
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