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COUNTDOWN TO HAR-MAGEDON Vernon O.: Because all records concerning the genealogy of Israel, were destroyed when Jerusalem, and this included the temple, in 70 C.E., there can never again be a priest from the tribe of Levi to do service at the temple, or a High Priest from Aaron. This fact alone contradicts anyone’s claim to an Israel of God being situated at the temple mount at Jerusalem ever again.
If I understand you, you are saying that 1: All the Jews immediately forgot who their fathersd and grandfathers were upon the destruction of Jerusalem. This would mean that there had been no objective priesthood since the taking away into Babylon (Jeruslaem has been destroyed before). 2:There is no way to ascertain genetically who should be in the high preisthood. Recently a genetics test was done on people with the last name of Cohen (also Kohn, Cohn, etc) as tradition has it that the high priest carried this last name. Within a high degree of similarity, they found that these people all carried the same Y chromosone. (Yes I know the human genome is not completely mapped yet) hence were all descended from the same man (hypothetically Aaron). 3: Ten of the tribes are missing, with only Levi and Judah accounted for. All modern jewish people belong to these two tribes (with the exception of the Ethiopian Falasha’s) With these three things in mind, why couldn’t the Jews find a high priest? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Such claims are without merit and should not be taken seriously. Jesus the Christ will rule the earth, but not from such a place as earthly Jerusalem. For then the true prophecy would not be fulfilled: "I will make the heavens your throne and the earth your footstool." Look! At your command is all the wisdom of the ages. JUST CALL ME JONAH Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah. Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – COUNTDOWN TO HAR-MAGEDON Vernon O.: Because all records concerning the genealogy of Israel, were destroyed when Jerusalem, and this included the temple, in 70 C.E., there can never again be a priest from the tribe of Levi to do service at the temple, or a High Priest from Aaron. This fact alone contradicts anyone’s claim to an Israel of God being situated at the temple mount at Jerusalem ever again. If I understand you, you are saying that 1: All the Jews immediately forgot who their fathersd and grandfathers were upon the destruction of Jerusalem. This would mean that there had been no objective priesthood since the taking away into Babylon (Jeruslaem has been destroyed before). 2:There is no way to ascertain genetically who should be in the high preisthood. Recently a genetics test was done on people with the last name of Cohen (also Kohn, Cohn, etc) as tradition has it that the high priest carried this last name. Within a high degree of similarity, they found that these people all carried the same Y chromosone. (Yes I know the human genome is not completely mapped yet) hence were all descended from the same man (hypothetically Aaron). 3: Ten of the tribes are missing, with only Levi and Judah accounted for. All modern jewish people belong to these two tribes (with the exception of the Ethiopian Falasha’s) With these three things in mind, why couldn’t the Jews find a high priest?
The Kohenim (Priests) have allready been chosen and trained. They await only the building of the Temple. Isaiah and Ezekiel both tell us that Messiah will have Kohenim serve Him in the Third Temple. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Such claims are without merit and should not be taken seriously. Jesus the Christ will rule the earth, but not from such a place as earthly Jerusalem. For then the true prophecy would not be fulfilled: "I will make the heavens your throne and the earth your footstool." Look! At your command is all the wisdom of the ages. JUST CALL ME JONAH Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah. Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
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THE NEW COVENANT PRIESTHOOD : STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION We are investigating the scriptural authority concerning who can minister in the church of God. What are the requirements of those who are called and who exactly are called. We are looking for answers to whether there is a difference between ministering in the church and out of the church. That means to believers and to unbelievers. All these things may seem simple and self evident but the church has assumed many doctrines and requirements that have very little to do with the New Covenant. In fact they totally ignore and conflict with the New Covenant. We should first understand this whole concept of "Priesthood". Several churches still refer to their ministers as "priests" and the rest of the church as members or believers. Multitudes accept this concept without question, but as Paul said, "I would not have you ignorant brethren". This theory that the priests are the small group that ministers to the church or "the believers", is faulty and erroneous. Even a causal look at the New Testament will reveal this deception. Some churches acknowledge that all believers are called to a holy priesthood but have not responded to the requirements and consequently have been disqualified. Others have used the Old Covenant type of a divided priesthood of Priests and Levites to prove the division between the "MINISTRY" and the church. Both the sons of Aaron and the Levites were called "priests" but only the high priest and his sons could enter into the Holy Place to do the "ministry". The Levites carried wood and assisted the "priests". In that same way the whole church is called "priests". In this concept, the priests are the sons of the High Priest and are therefore the chosen "ministers". The believers or the church are in the family of Levi, the same as Aaron and Moses, but are the same as Levites. They are not qualified to participate in the "holy ministry" or the "most holy ministry". They can carry water and gather wood and do the servile work of the church. To make this philosophy work out, the ministers would have to be the sons of Jesus and the church the sons of God. The whole church would have to be children of God (Levi) but the ministers would be the sons of Aaron,the High Priest (Jesus Christ). In this way the priesthood is divided into two groups. Those who minister to God and those who serve the ministers. All this may have some credence if the New Testament priesthood was arranged the same as the Old Testament priesthood and the Old Covenant was like the New Covenant. The fact is that the New Covenant is nothing like the Old Covenant. HEB 8:7 For if that first {covenant} had been faultless, there would have been no occasion sought for a second. HEB 8:8 For finding fault with them, He says, "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, When I will effect a new covenant With the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; HEB 8:9 Not like the covenant which I made with their fathers On the day when I took them by the hand To lead them out of the land of Egypt; For they did not continue in My covenant, And I did not care for them, says the Lord. The priesthood after the order of Aaron was established at Mt. Sinai because Israel was afraid and didn’t go up the mountain. God’s purpose was to make all of Israel a Kingdom of priests. EXO 19:5 ‘Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine; EXO 19:6 and you shall be to Me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. ‘These are the words that you shall speak to the sons of Israel. " There was a preparation necessary. EXO 19:14 So Moses went down from the mountain to the people and consecrated the people, and they washed their garments. EXO 19:15 And he said to the people, "Be ready for the third day; do not go near a woman." DEU 5:4 "The Lord spoke to you face to face at the mountain from the midst of the fire, DEU 5:5 {while} I was standing between the Lord and you at that time, to declare to you the word of the Lord; for you were afraid because of the fire and did not go up the mountain. He said, ( See the study: From Egypt to Sinai). Because Israel didn’t go up the mountain to hear the voice of God, He established an intermediary priesthood to stand between the people and God. This priesthood was to interpret the will of God to the people and to declare the word of God to the people. From this it has been interpreted that those who stand in the presence of God can’t have relations with their wives, Etc. This is carried over into the "eunuch doctrine" of the New Testament and the "virgin doctrine" of Rev 14. ISA 56:3 Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord say, "The Lord will surely separate me from His people." Neither let the eunuch say, "Behold, I am a dry tree." # ISA 56:4 For thus says the Lord, To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths, And choose what pleases Me, And hold fast My covenant, ISA 56:5 To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial, And a name better than that of sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name which will not be cut off. ISA 56:6 "Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the Lord, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath, And holds fast My covenant; ISA 56:7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar; For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples. " ( See the study on eunuchs). All these things would be extremely convincing if the Old Covenant was like the New Covenant and the priesthood after the order of Aaron was like the priesthood after the order of Melchizedek and if a eunuch in the Old Testament was the same as a eunuch in the New Testament. In the Old Testament, a eunuch was a man who was castrated so he could watch over the kings wives without temptation. These were natural eunuchs, physical eunuchs and literal eunuchs. Few New Testaments ministers wish to qualify for that type of eunuch. Obviously, the New Testament eunuchs are "spiritual eunuchs" and not literal eunuchs. The error comes in when we try to mix the spiritual eunuch with a literal eunuch. That means requiring a minister to refrain from having a physical relationship with a wife in the natural sense and yet holding to a doctrine about spiritual eunuchs. The New Testament really does have spiritual eunuchs who do not impregnate their life into the church but keep the church exclusively for Jesus Christ and not use the church for their own purposes. The problem is with those who hold to a doctrine about spiritual eunuchs but all the time they are defiling the church with their own life and concepts and using the church for their own satisfaction. That kind of doctrine really doesn’t impress God. They are not sleeping with their wife but they are sleeping with the church. The first has temporary consequences but the second has eternal consequences. It is better to sleep with your wife than the church. The priesthood after the order of Melchizedek was the original priesthood. The first mention of any priest was in Gen 14. Melchizedek was a priest of the Most High God. This is an eternal priesthood and cannot be compared to the temporal priesthood of earthly priests. HEB 5:9 And having been made perfect, He became to all those who obey Him the source of eternal salvation, HEB 5:10 being designated by God as a high priest according to the order of Melchizedek. HEB 5:11 Concerning him we have much to say, and {it is} hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing. HEB 6:19 This hope we have as an anchor of the soul, a {hope} both sure and steadfast and one which enters within the veil, HEB 6:20 where Jesus has entered as a forerunner for us, having become a high priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek. HEB 7:1 For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham as he was returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him, HEB 7:2 to whom also Abraham apportioned a tenth part of all {the spoils}, was first of all, by the translation {of his name}, king of righteousness, and then also king of Salem, which is king of peace. HEB 7:3 Without father, without mother, without genealogy, having neither beginning of days nor end of life, but made like the Son of God, he abides a priest perpetually. (Forever) HEB 7:4 Now observe how great this man was to whom Abraham, the patriarch, gave a tenth of the choicest spoils. HEB 7:5 And those indeed of the sons of Levi who receive the priest’s office have commandment in the Law to collect a tenth from the people, that is, from their brethren, although these are descended from Abraham. HEB 7:6 But the one whose genealogy is not traced from them collected a tenth from Abraham, and blessed the one who had the promises. HEB 7:7 But without any dispute the lesser is blessed by the greater. HEB 7:8 And in this case (Aaron and his sons) mortal men receive tithes, but in that case (Melchizedek) one {receives them}, of whom it is witnessed that he lives on. HEB 7:9 And, so to speak, through Abraham even Levi, who received tithes, paid tithes, HEB 7:10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him. ( See the study on Melchizedek) The eternal priesthood after the order of Melchizedek has never changed. The priesthood after the order of Aaron was ordained by God as a temporary priesthood until Jesus Christ was manifested and became a high priest after this eternal priesthood. The priesthood of Melchizedek existed as an eternal priesthood before Jesus Christ was manifested. Jesus became a high priest after the order of Melchizedek. 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(clipped for brevity) I am glad to read this word of truth, knowing this understanding only comes from the Father and Living God. Thank you for standing up and speaking righteousness of God in truth. DW Suiter
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Don’t forget though, that the Aaronic priesthood was nullified at the splitting of the temple veil at Christ’s death on the cross. And since Jesus lives and holds the Melchizedek priesthood (only one at any time) – He has that tied up also. We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ – and our ‘priests’ in a special way. It’s that simple. No need for long drawn out explanations. In other words – the priesthoods of the OT are gone. New covenant people do not deal with them anymore. P.
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Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck? — Peter Posted to alt.religion.Christian.Pentecostal in main. (1 John 2:4-6) He who says "I know him" but disobeys his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him; {5} but whoever keeps his word, in him truly love for God is perfected. By this we may be sure that we are in him: {6} he who says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – He has that tied up also. We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ – and our ‘priests’ in a special way.
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Michael Dean : We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ and our ‘priests’ in a special way. Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck?
There is no "clergy-laity distinction in Christ’s Church. Obviously you have lost your way and you are caught up in the cults. And why do you need "priests" ? Are you still sacrificing bulls and goats ? Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
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Christ was the perfect sacrifice. Why insult God with the imperfect? What are you on about man? What rituals are you talking about? Passover? Please explain. Who is a guru? Are you a Hindu or something? — Peter Posted to alt.religion.Christian.Pentecostal in main. (1 John 2:4-6) He who says "I know him" but disobeys his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him; {5} but whoever keeps his word, in him truly love for God is perfected. By this we may be sure that we are in him: {6} he who says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael Dean : We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ and our ‘priests’ in a special way. Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck? There is no "clergy-laity distinction in Christ’s Church. Obviously you have lost your way and you are caught up in the cults. And why do you need "priests" ? Are you still sacrificing bulls and goats ? Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
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The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them.
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THE NEW COVENANT PRIESTHOOD : STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION Don’t forget though, that the Aaronic priesthood was nullified at the splitting of the temple veil at Christ’s death on the cross.
Not according to Isaiah. In Chapter 66 Isaiah foretells the Aharonic Priesthood serving in the Third Temple when Messiah Returns and calls them to serve. And since Jesus lives and holds the Melchizedek priesthood (only one at any time) –
No such thing as a Melchizedek priesthood "Malki Tzedek" is not a name; it is a title. The words "Malki-Tzedek" mean "King of Righteousness" This is a title for ONE Person: Messiah. The Malki Tzedek of the book of Genesis was Shem, son of Noach. Shem had come to Faith in Messiah And was the only priest of G-d that taught of the coming Messiah. He "borrowed" this title of Messiah since he was Messiah’s representative (this literary technique is used throughout the Bible). He has that tied up also. We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ – and our ‘priests’ in a special way. It’s that simple. No need for long drawn out explanations. In other words – the priesthoods of the OT are gone. New covenant people do not deal with them anymore.
Then you violate the NT. (Matt 5 17-19) Remember Rabbi Sha’ul (Paul) gave burnt offerings in the Temple in 21:26. He submitted to the Aharonic Kohenim (Priests in 20:16 when he whent to the Temple to celebrate Shavu’ot. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -P.
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Michael Dean : We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ and our ‘priests’ in a special way. Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck? There is no "clergy-laity distinction in Christ’s Church. Obviously you have lost your way and you are caught up in the cults.
Then why did Messiah ordain Rabbis, such as Kefa (Peter)? Why did the First Century Congregations have leaders? And why do you need "priests" ? Are you still sacrificing bulls and goats ?
You will sacrifice Bulls when Messiah returns. That is why Isaiah 66 foretells that Messiah will call the Kohenim (Priests of the line of Aharon) and L’vim (Levites) to serve in the third Temple when He returns. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
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Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns.
According to the Mesiah NOTHING is "outmoded" (Matt 5:17-19) There are no "Levitical Rituals" There are Biblically Commanded forms of Worship. You have not read you Bible fully. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Michael Townsend
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – THE NEW COVENANT PRIESTHOOD : STRUCTURE AND FUNCTION Don’t forget though, that the Aaronic priesthood was nullified at the splitting of the temple veil at Christ’s death on the cross. Not according to Isaiah. In Chapter 66 Isaiah foretells the Aharonic Priesthood serving in the Third Temple when Messiah Returns and calls them to serve. And since Jesus lives and holds the Melchizedek priesthood (only one at any time) – No such thing as a Melchizedek priesthood "Malki Tzedek" is not a name; it is a title. The words "Malki-Tzedek" mean "King of Righteousness" This is a title for ONE Person: Messiah. The Malki Tzedek of the book of Genesis was Shem, son of Noach. Shem had come to Faith in Messiah And was the only priest of G-d that taught of the coming Messiah. He "borrowed" this title of Messiah since he was Messiah’s representative (this literary technique is used throughout the Bible). He has that tied up also. We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ – and our ‘priests’ in a special way. It’s that simple. No need for long drawn out explanations. In other words – the priesthoods of the OT are gone. New covenant people do not deal with them anymore. Then you violate the NT. (Matt 5 17-19) Remember Rabbi Sha’ul (Paul) gave burnt offerings in the Temple in 21:26. He submitted to the Aharonic Kohenim (Priests in 20:16 when he whent to the Temple to celebrate Shavu’ot. P. Kings of Peace, are the Kings of God; Priests of God. Such is Melchizedek. This title is given according to a certain order’ to all who qualify and are worthy of this name and title.
Only Messiah is Worthy! This King and Priest dwells in the City of Peace; Spiritual Jerusalem; ruling his mind by the laws and principles of God.
There is no "Spiritual Jerusalem." Messiah will reign from the real Jerusalem. Such was Jesus of Nazareth a King of these Kings; a priest of this priesthood. Not of the old covenent which man broke, but of the new covenant of God established with all who follow the way of Christ.
The scriptures say: "If all the world wereliars, G-d would still be true." How can a few men break G-d’s promises? There has only been one covenant and it is still in effect. The way of Christ is the way of Spirit. The matters of God are matters of Spirit. The true and only Temple of God is the Temple of the Holy Spirit, who is the true Son of God.
The Third Temple will be built on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem, where PHYSICAL Offering will be brought at the Command of Messiah (Isaiah 66) You err in seeing and understanding by the carnal mind.
You Western Arrogance blinds you to the Bible. You like to use Pagan/Greek pohilosophy to explain the bible away as a spititual thing. What it truly spiritual is also manefest in the physical world thorough the lifestyles of men, not just by their words. The Royal Priesthood and Kings of God, are all who are given this name and position by the Living God, His Sons, whom He is raising up in this hour, in and by which the true Temple of God is being built by Him.
No. He will call the sons of Aharon to serve in the Third Temple which will be a physical building. This Temple is the true House of God. Man cannot build this House of God for whatsoever man builds is the building of man; not God.
Then you do not believe the Bible.
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<snipped You will sacrifice Bulls when Messiah returns.
Oh, no! We won’t be sacrificing bulls when Jesus returns! When Jesus Christ appears, all will be bowing before Him on His throne, in anticipation of judgment. [Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10]. Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
Amen! — GoldRush For Scriptures & Christian Studies visit http://www.mlode.com/~jrrush
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DW nice post..
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You are opening a can of worms with that one. There has been anti Jewish sentiment for so long that many Christian churches don’t see what you have just said. I don’t know all of the ins and outs but essentially what you say here is true. The ONLY out those kind of Christians have is if they use the word temple in a spiritual sense (Your body is the Temple of God). Other than that there will be a temple, Christ will rule from it and sacrifices will be given. We have a new covenant BUT God never changes (Malachi).
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael Dean : We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ and our ‘priests’ in a special way. Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck? There is no "clergy-laity distinction in Christ’s Church. Obviously you have lost your way and you are caught up in the cults. Then why did Messiah ordain Rabbis, such as Kefa (Peter)? Why did the First Century Congregations have leaders? And why do you need "priests" ? Are you still sacrificing bulls and goats ? You will sacrifice Bulls when Messiah returns. That is why Isaiah 66 foretells that Messiah will call the Kohenim (Priests of the line of Aharon) and L’vim (Levites) to serve in the third Temple when He returns. Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
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Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them.
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<snipped You will sacrifice Bulls when Messiah returns. Oh, no! We won’t be sacrificing bulls when Jesus returns!
Read Ezekiel and Isaiah. (Esp. Is 66 an Eze 43) These both describe the reinstatement in the Kohenim and L’vim to serve Messiah in the Third Temple when Messiah returns (NOT before). I am not surprized by your reflexive reaction. Christians assume that since they do not slaughter animal today that they will not do so ever. This is not biblical. Many Christians do not even believe in the Resurection; they seem to think that they will be "Ghosts in Heaven." This is also anti-Biblical. When Jesus Christ appears, all will be bowing before Him on His throne, in anticipation of judgment. [Isaiah 45:23, Romans 14:11, Philippians 2:10].
TRUE! Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns.
Then you Reject the Word of G-d. The Word od G-d is NEVER "outmoded". – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael Townsend Amen! — GoldRush For Scriptures & Christian Studies visit http://www.mlode.com/~jrrush
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You are opening a can of worms with that one. There has been anti Jewish sentiment for so long that many Christian churches don’t see what you have just said. I don’t know all of the ins and outs but essentially what you say here is true. The ONLY out those kind of Christians have is if they use the word temple in a spiritual sense (Your body is the Temple of God). Other than that there will be a temple, Christ will rule from it and sacrifices will be given. We have a new covenant BUT God never changes (Malachi).
True! His truth is eternal. Isaiah, chapter 66, and Ezekiel, Chapter 43, discuss the animal sacrifice that Messiah will re-instate when He returns – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Michael Dean : We as laity do share in the priesthood of Christ and our ‘priests’ in a special way. Laity? What’s a ‘laity’? Is that something you put around your neck? There is no "clergy-laity distinction in Christ’s Church. Obviously you have lost your way and you are caught up in the cults. Then why did Messiah ordain Rabbis, such as Kefa (Peter)? Why did the First Century Congregations have leaders? And why do you need "priests" ? Are you still sacrificing bulls and goats ? You will sacrifice Bulls when Messiah returns. That is why Isaiah 66 foretells that Messiah will call the Kohenim (Priests of the line of Aharon) and L’vim (Levites) to serve in the third Temple when He returns. Wake up man, Christ has come and has been crucified once-only and is resurrected and ascended, and here are you, still fooling around with outmoded Levitical rituals and clerical gurus in long gowns. Michael Townsend
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them.
Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah.
Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
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COUNTDOWN TO HAR-MAGEDON Vernon O.: Because all records concerning the genealogy of Israel, were destroyed when Jerusalem, and this included the temple, in 70 C.E., there can never again be a priest from the tribe of Levi to do service at the temple, or a High Priest from Aaron. This fact alone contradicts anyone’s claim to an Israel of God being situated at the temple mount at Jerusalem ever again. Such claims are without merit and should not be taken seriously. Jesus the Christ will rule the earth, but not from such a place as earthly Jerusalem. For then the true prophecy would not be fulfilled: "I will make the heavens your throne and the earth your footstool." Look! At your command is all the wisdom of the ages. JUST CALL ME JONAH – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah. Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
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COUNTDOWN TO HAR-MAGEDON Vernon O.: Because all records concerning the genealogy of Israel, were destroyed when Jerusalem, and this included the temple, in 70 C.E., there can never again be a priest from the tribe of Levi to do service at the temple, or a High Priest from Aaron.
Wrongo bufalo This fact alone contradicts anyone’s claim to an Israel of God being situated at the temple mount at Jerusalem ever again. Such claims are without merit and should not be taken seriously. Jesus the Christ will rule the earth, but not from such a place as earthly Jerusalem.
Naw. EVERYBODY knows it will be from the Vatican. For then the true prophecy would not be fulfilled: "I will make the heavens your throne and the earth your footstool."
Already done That is the state we have right now with Satan as prince of the world. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Look! At your command is all the wisdom of the ages. JUST CALL ME JONAH Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah. Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Will you quit saying things I can’t disagree with. The Bible does support the concept of human priests, but not Catholic Priests. The Bible only allows for the Kohenim, Jewish descendants of Aharon the frist High Priest. But since there is no Temple on the Temple Mount they have little to do at present. However, Isaiah 66 states that they will serve Messiah in the Thrid Temple when He returns and calls for them. Ezekiel 43 says that they will give Animal offerings at the Command of Messiah. Yes, some say this happened when Jesus was here, but I tend to go with the idea Jesus will do so after the tribulation.
Since the Passage in Ezekiel happens in the Third Temple that has not yet been built, it must be a future event! Messiah did not call Kohenim to serve in the temple when he was here, so Isaiah’s prophesy has yet to be fulfilled.
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