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Jesus said, "I Am Who I Am."

Question:

Dear Elizabeth (a.k.a. Disandra) and my Fellowmen, I guess this is what I get when I try to find somewhere to connect with people without Christianity being pushed into my face!  <g Questions To Fernando: Why is it that you think your path is the only way?  Why can’t you leave those of us who have chosen to follow another path, one that we connect to and find meaning in, alone?  Why is it that, Christians in particular, seem to scream and shout that they are the only ones who know the truth?  Why is it that every where Christians go they try to convert people to their path?  History has shown that those people who have not convert are killed.  Doesn’t this go against what you believe? So sorry about the rant, I’m just sick of having this religion forced on me where ever I go.

     Thank you, Elizabeth, for your reply.        You don’t have to be sorry about the "rant".  I will share with you NOT what I think but what the Holy Spirit said.  He is a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit Himself. We talk to Him and hear Him even though we cannot see Him.  We record on audio tapes our sessions with Him.   Why is it that you think your path is the only way?

     When you said path, you mean way to Heaven or to God, don’t you? If this is so, the Holy Spirit said that for us to go to Heaven or to God the Father in Heaven, we have to pass through Jesus.  The Bible confirms this.  In John 14:6, Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one goes to the Father except by me."  So Jesus is the way.  The only way.  No other way.  Will you still search for any other ways?  He said that He is the truth.  Therefore, we have to trust His words for they are truths.  And He is the life for He is the only one who can give us eternal life.  The Holy Spirit emphasized these. Eternal life in Heaven forever is our reward in believing in Jesus and following His commandments. Why can’t you leave those of us who have chosen to follow another path, one that we connect to and find meaning in, alone?

     Because God loves you.  I love you.  The Holy Spirit wants to save your soul.  He wants that you go to Heaven.  He wants you to come back to God.  He is searching for you like Jesus’ parable of the lost sheep.      If you become a believer and follower of Jesus, it will be very easy for you to connect to other believers.  There are many Christian groups who will gladly take you in to their group.  And here, you will find meaning in your life, the purpose of life, your place in the community among the children of God in His plan.  There is the reward that you look forward to.  You have that faith that you will be rewarded by Jesus in the afterlife. Why is it that, Christians in particular, seem to scream and shout that they are the only ones who know the truth?  Why is it that every where Christians go they try to convert people to their path?   History has shown that those people who have not convert are killed.  Doesn’t this go against what you believe?

     Christians have found the truth, that is, Jesus.  And because of their enthusiasm and zeal in following the command of Jesus, and because of their love for their fellowmen to be saved as well, they go out to preach the gospel of Jesus as commanded by Jesus in Matthew 28:19, to wit as quoted from the Good News Bible: "Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples; baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you.  And I will be with you always, to the end of the age."      Maybe in the past, those who did not convert were killed by Christians.  Their conquest of land might have been mostly motivated by financial gain instead of spreading the gospel. But killing those who did not convert is not a hallmark of Christianity.  Maybe some other religions.      You are right that it is against the Christian belief to kill his fellowmen.  Nowadays, Christians are winning souls not by conquest but by preaching.      When I present to you the messages, prophecies, sermons, prayers of the Holy Spirit found in my website below, I am not forcing you to believe them straight away.  Scrutinize them.  Study them.  Pick up what you think is good for you.  The decision is yours, not mine.  Your soul is the one who is at stake.  You are the one who is responsible to take care of it.      I just would like to tell you that in March 1999, the Holy Spirit instructed me and several others to tell people to change for the better now, to turn a new leaf in life, to be clean, to be good, to change wrong beliefs, to come back to God while there is still time.  These can only be done while the soul is still in the physical body.  When a person dies with unrepented sins, he cannot ask God for forgiveness anymore.  Repentence can only be done while the soul is still in the physical body.  So do it NOW for time is running fast.  So we better hurry up.      God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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    There is only one true God.  He is the one referred to by Jesus Christ as the Father.  He is the one who created you and me.  He is the one who gave us life.  We therefore owe our life to Him.

   Note in the words of Genesis the use of plurality when describing the likings of man to the gods. "And He created them in their own image" or something similar to that. I don’t have my copy with me at the moment. Bright be thy day in the sun,    Wintershard    minterra.yahoo.com    ARW photo page: http://members.xoom.com/wintershard/photo.html

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Dear Gordon and my Fellowmen, The whole reason for life is for God to reproduce a seperate free will from himself,thats why we have free will,so Jesus or any person that has completed the process of reproduction is going to inherit the energy of God and infinity,so they would be mistaken as God,but the difference is people have seperate free will from God. God doesnt need to be a person or Jesus because God is all enegry that the phyisical universe and spirit world are made of which is infinity,the only reason for God creating the physical world is to create 2 polarities positive and negative,what this does is creates a conflict in infinity and seperates energy into two polarities,so that God can create seperate free will outside infinity,time and polarities is what keeps the seperation from infinity.When you die you should be a perfect reproduction but with seperate free will from God.

     There is only one true God.  He is the one referred to by Jesus Christ as the Father.  He is the one who created you and me.  He is the one who gave us life.  We therefore owe our life to Him.      In creating us, He gave us free will.  That free will gave us the decision to do good or to do evil.  We are the one who is in control. Even the decision to accept God or not rests upon us also.      Our physical body is just soil.  It came from the soil.  God breathed life into this physical body made of soil.  That breath of life is the spirit from God.  After God has breathed life into this physical body, it moved.  It became animated.  As long as the physical body is not destroyed, the spirit lives in it.  Once it is destroyed, the spirit leaves it.  This spirit goes back to the spiritual world where God is. And this spirit will live forever.  Depending upon what it did while it was still in the physical body on earth, the spirit will receive its reward to live with God in Heaven or will be condemned to Hell–forever.      This is what is meant by we being created in the likeness of God. God is a spirit and we are spirits.  We actually belong to the spiritual world.  The earth is not our home.  We are just passing through it only for a brief period of time.      God in His pity to man sent His only begotten Son in the person of Jesus Christ.  Actually, that spirit that was in the body of Jesus Christ was God Himself.  If this is not so, how could He have performed those miracles that no ordinary person like you and me could do.  That is why Jesus said that the only way to go to the Father in Heaven is through Him.  He is showing the way so that we will not go astray. Jesus became the model that we could follow to go to Heaven.  He even showed how to bear sufferings by letting Himself be nailed on the cross.      Gordon, your thinking is philosophical.  You are a deep thinker. Please use your intellect to find the true God.  It is very simple and logical as I have narrated above.  This is what I heard and learned from a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit Himself.  The only way to go to Heaven and live there forever is through Jesus Christ.  No other way.  So while there is still time, change your wrong belief.  For if you deny Jesus Christ, He will deny you also.  And you will suffer the consequences of your wrong belief forever.  God gave you free will.  Use this to discern the truth.      God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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Dear Ronald and my Fellowmen,      Based on your thinking, I believe that you do NOT accept that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself.  Am I correct?  I believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself.  I base this on what is in the Bible and what the Holy Spirit told us.      You think of Jesus Christ as just the human being with that name. But don’t you know that the spirit that was in that human body is that of God the Father.  God is a spirit, right?  You accept this, I believe.  And this spirit dwelt in a physical human body.  That body where He dwelt is who we refer to as Jesus Christ.  God did this in order to show the way to us how to go to His kingdom in Heaven where we could live forever.      Please do not think of Jesus Christ as the human being only.  Jesus showed in the Bible that He was not mere human being.  In fact, He showed that He is God in spirit form.  In Acts 9:1-9, whose voice did Saul hear?  Didn’t the voice say that He was Jesus?  What was Jesus then at that point?  He was a spirit.  Not as we ordinarily know of Jesus as the human being.  And what did Saul say?  "Who are you, Lord?"  Even though he did not see the originator of the voice, he said "Lord". Truly, He is the Lord of Saul for He is God.  Who is the source of that voice?  Jesus!  In spiritual form!  Is He God?  Then why did Saul call Him "Lord"?      In another part of the Bible, God revealed who He is.  This is in the book of Revelation.  In Rev. 1:8, God said, "I am the first and the last, the Lord God almighty, who is, who was, and who is to come."  Then in the last chapter, God revealed who He is.  In Rev. 22:13, God repeated what He said in the first chapter.  He said, "I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end."  Then, in Rev. 22:16, God revealed Himself.   He said, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to announce these things to you in the churches.  I am descended from the family of David; I am the bright morning star."  So who is God?  Jesus!  And in what form was He at this point?  In spiritual form!  Not the Jesus that we know as the human being.  These verses that I cited only prove that Jesus is God the Father Himself.      And this fact that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself was confirmed to us by the Holy Spirit Himself.  We can talk to Him and record on audio tape our conversations.  If you would like to determine who He really is, then read some of what He said which are found in my website below.  Please read His sermons, messages, prophecies, prayers, and scrutinize them.  I have a lot more to impart to you.  I just don’t have the time to translate those that I have transcribed.  And much more still to transcribe.      I hope you will change your wrong belief.  The Holy Spirit instructed me and several others in March last year to tell people to change their wrong beliefs, to change their wrong ways, to turn a new leaf in life, to be good, to be clean, for the end is coming to most of us.  Our time here on earth won’t be long anymore.  We may not have time to change and repent.  Let not your soul be horrified when in the afterlife, it finds out how wrong it was.  If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches.      God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

Response:

Dear Ronald and my Fellowmen,      Based on your thinking, I believe that you do NOT accept that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself.  Am I correct?  I believe that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself.  I base this on what is in the Bible and what the Holy Spirit told us.      You think of Jesus Christ as just the human being with that name. But don’t you know that the spirit that was in that human body is that of God the Father.  God is a spirit, right?  You accept this, I believe.  And this spirit dwelt in a physical human body.  That body where He dwelt is who we refer to as Jesus Christ.  God did this in order to show the way to us how to go to His kingdom in Heaven where we could live forever.

While the Bible never refers to God "dwelling" in Jesus, Jesus did say "Father is in me, and I in him." (John 10:38; 14:10,11) This does not mean that Jesus was saying that he was the Father and the Father’s spirit body was actually in his fleshly body. Jesus also prayed concerning his followers: "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us." Jesus was not praying that his followers become the Father, or that they become God (John 17:1,3), but rather he is praying for the general agreement of the church with him and with the Father. The Bible does speak of the spirit of God dwelling in the members of the body of Christ: Romans 8:9,11; 1 Corinthians 3:16. While the Bible does not speak of the spirit of God as dwelling in Jesus, it does say that Jesus was led by the spirit (Matthew 4:1; Mark 1:12); the spirit was put upon him by his Father, Yahweh (Matthew 12:18; Luke 4:18); he cast out demons by the spirit of God (Matthew 12:28); he was full of the holy spirit (Luke 4:1); he had the power of the holy spirit (Luke 4:14); God had given the spirit to Jesus without measure (John 3:34). And since he is the firstborn of many brothers (Hebrews 2:12-14), and the brothers are said to have the spirit dwelling in them, it would safe to say that the holy spirit was dwelling in Jesus when he was on the earth. In none of this, however, is there any thought that this would make Jesus and Yahweh the same being, or that Jesus is his own Father, for such reasoning would also make the church and Yahweh the same being. Rather than claim that he was the Father on the earth, Jesus continually made references to his Father who is in heaven. — Matthew 5:16,45; 6:9; 7:11,21; 10:32,33; 12:50; 16:17; 18:10,14,19; 23:9; Mark 11:25,26. "He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son." — 2 John 1:9      Please do not think of Jesus Christ as the human being only.

He isn’t. He was a mighty spirit being (theos) before coming to the earth, and he is now again a mighty spirit being. He is no longer in the days of his flesh. — John 6:51; Hebrews 5:7; 10:10.  Jesus showed in the Bible that He was not mere human being.  In fact, He showed that He is God in spirit form.  In Acts 9:1-9, whose voice did Saul hear?  Didn’t the voice say that He was Jesus?  What was Jesus then at that point?  He was a spirit.

Yes, he was no longer flesh. Not as we ordinarily know of Jesus as the human being.  And what did Saul say?  "Who are you, Lord?"  Even though he did not see the originator of the voice, he said "Lord". Truly, He is the Lord of Saul for He is God.

He is theos/elohim in that Yahweh, the only true Supreme Being, has given him power to be such. "Therefore let all the house of Israel know for certain that God has made Him both Lord and Christ –this Jesus whom you crucified." — Acts 2:36, NASV Who is the source of that voice?  Jesus!  In spiritual form!  Is He God?  Then why did Saul call Him "Lord"?

Because he is the one Lord of the church, appointed so by the one true Supreme Being, his Father, Yahweh. for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him. — 1 Corinthians 8:6, NASV      In another part of the Bible, God revealed who He is.  This is in the book of Revelation.  In Rev. 1:8, God said, "I am the first and the last, the Lord God almighty, who is, who was, and who is to come."  Then in the last chapter, God revealed who He is.  In Rev. 22:13, God repeated what He said in the first chapter.  He said, "I am the first and the last, the beginning and the end."  Then, in Rev. 22:16, God revealed Himself.   He said, "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to announce these things to you in the churches.  I am descended from the family of David; I am the bright morning star."  So who is God?  Jesus!

It is God — Yahweh — that gave the revelation to Jesus to be given to John by means of an angel, thus in Revelation 22, John quotes Yahweh, Jesus and the angel. — Revelation 1:1 http://reslight.addr.com/alpha.html And in what form was He at this point?  In spiritual form!

With this I agree; we discussed this last year. Not the Jesus that we know as the human being.

He is still the same Jesus, although he is no longer in human form. These verses that I cited only prove that Jesus is God the Father Himself.

This has to read into the texts.      And this fact that Jesus Christ is God the Father Himself was confirmed to us by the Holy Spirit Himself.

This "holy spirit" that you are in communication with is of the demons, as I told you last year. We can talk to Him and record on audio tape our conversations.

As can many spirit mediums who contact the demons. I do not doubt your sincerity, but I do believe that you are being deceived and carried away by this spirit. Ronald

Response:

ThankYEW, Fernando! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,    Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.    I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.    What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.  He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."    The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions.     So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."    Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.    The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.    There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.      So while there is still time, save your soul.  Believe in Jesus. Believe that a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed here on earth some 2000 years ago.  He is a historical figure so he existed before. He is not a myth.  And then believe also that Jesus Christ is God in human form.  The spirit of God dwelt in a human body who we call Jesus Christ.  Jesus said "I Am Who I Am’.  And that is the name of God–I Am Who I Am.    God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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The whole reason for life is for God to reproduce a seperate free will from himself,thats why we have free will,so Jesus or any person that has completed the process of reproduction is going to inherit the energy of God and infinity,so they would be mistaken as God,but the difference is people have seperate free will from God. God doesnt need to be a person or Jesus because God is all enegry that the phyisical universe and spirit world are made of which is infinity,the only reason for God creating the physical world is to create 2 polarities positive and negative,what this does is creates a conflict in infinity and seperates energy into two polarities,so that God can create seperate free will outside infinity,time and polarities is what keeps the seperation from infinity.When you die you should be a perfect reproduction but with seperate free will from God. gordon muir. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,     Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.     I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.     What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God. He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."     The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions. So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."     Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.     The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.     There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.     So while there is still time, save your soul.  Believe in Jesus. Believe that a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed here on earth some 2000 years ago.  He is a historical figure so he existed before. He is not a myth.  And then believe also that Jesus Christ is God in human form.  The spirit of God dwelt in a human body who we call Jesus Christ.  Jesus said "I Am Who I Am’.  And that is the name of God–I Am Who I Am.     God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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Response:

Dear Wolfklan and my Fellowmen,      Do we have to hate or fight one another?  Jesus taught that we love one another.  That includes our so-called "enemies".  We should not have any enemy.  We are all brothers and sisters.      What I am sharing with you is what I heard and learned from a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit Himself.  I am not forcing anyone to believe in what I share or what the Holy Spirit says.  The decision of what to believe in is left to an individual.      Salvation, according to the Holy Spirit, depends upon the person. He makes the decision.  If he wants to believe in God or not, that is his decision.  If he wants to do good or evil, that is also his decision.      What I would like to share with you is what the Holy Spirit told me and several others in March 1999.  He said that I tell people to change their wrong beliefs, to make themselves clean, to be good, to turn a new leaf in life.  Now is the last days, according to Him.  It is now harvest time.  And we are the ones to be harvested, meaning, our life here on earth will not be long anymore.  Let us aspire that when we are harvested, we be put in proper containers like crate, basket, sack. Those who fall to the ground will not be placed in the crate, basket or sack.  This is a parable of the Holy Spirit.  I hope you understand what He meant.      Remember also that now is shedding time like leaves falling down in autumn.  After this time, new buds will sprout in spring.  What He meant here is that He will harvest all of us this time and later, will allow a few to  repopulate this world.  That is with a new crop, or a new group of people.      Let us not harden our hearts by denying God.  Jesus has been knocking and knocking into our hearts.  Let us allow Him in.      The Holy Spirit is hoping that before we depart from this earthly life, we have known and accepted and believed in the true God and are following His commandments.  And He who clings to God, to Jesus, until his last dying breath will be saved.  He would have endured and stayed with Him.      God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible) Hehehe Hi there Elizabeth. For some misguided reason, some idiots feel the need to descend from their self perceived moral high ground and descend into the hedonistic world of us heathens and drag us kicking and screaming into their *note sarcasm here* shining light. I get sick of them too but so long as we keep this an open forum then we pretty much have to put up with their ignorance and arrogance. Welcome to ARW which should be renamed alt.really.weird some days ;p~~

There are, unfortunately, those ‘heathens’ who are no better. They spend their energies attacking Christians with a bigoted enthusiasm that would get a Baptist’s head nodding in approval. Wonder where they aped that behaviour from? It certainly creates an endless and rather useless cycle of hate which solves no problems and ultimately makes many more. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – — People that figure that they know everything really irritate those of us that do For a chuckle, check out http://www.homestead.com/wolfklan I guess this is what I get when I try to find somewhere to connect with people without Christianity being pushed into my face!  <g Hehehe Hi there Elizabeth. For some misguided reason, some idiots feel the need to descend from their self perceived moral high ground and descend into the hedonistic world of us heathens and drag us kicking and screaming into their *note sarcasm here* shining light. I get sick of them too but so long as we keep this an open forum then we pretty much have to put up with their ignorance and arrogance. Welcome to ARW which should be renamed alt.really.weird some days ;p~~

– Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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Hehehe Hi there Elizabeth. For some misguided reason, some idiots feel the need to descend from their self perceived moral high ground and descend into the hedonistic world of us heathens and drag us kicking and screaming into their *note sarcasm here* shining light. I get sick of them too but so long as we keep this an open forum then we pretty much have to put up with their ignorance and arrogance. Welcome to ARW which should be renamed alt.really.weird some days ;p~~

Thanks for the welcome.  I wish I would of known that these waccos seem to think that if they e-mail me, they can convert me!   BB, Disandra (Elizabeth) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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"Peace Crusader" scrawled in my little black book: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Dear Elizabeth (a.k.a. Disandra) and my Fellowmen, I guess this is what I get when I try to find somewhere to connect with people without Christianity being pushed into my face!  <g Questions To Fernando: Why is it that you think your path is the only way?  Why can’t you leave those of us who have chosen to follow another path, one that we connect to and find meaning in, alone?  Why is it that, Christians in particular, seem to scream and shout that they are the only ones who know the truth?  Why is it that every where Christians go they try to convert people to their path?  History has shown that those people who have not convert are killed.  Doesn’t this go against what you believe? So sorry about the rant, I’m just sick of having this religion forced on me where ever I go.     Thank you, Elizabeth, for your reply.       You don’t have to be sorry about the "rant".  I will share with you NOT what I think but what the Holy Spirit said.  He is a spirit, a holy spirit, and if you will believe it, THE Holy Spirit Himself. We talk to Him and hear Him even though we cannot see Him.  We record on audio tapes our sessions with Him.   Why is it that you think your path is the only way?     When you said path, you mean way to Heaven or to God, don’t you?

No, I mean your chosen religious path.  I don’t believe in your God, so how can I believe that He is the only path? If this is so, the Holy Spirit said that for us to go to Heaven or to God the Father in Heaven, we have to pass through Jesus.  The Bible confirms this.  In John 14:6, Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one goes to the Father except by me."  So Jesus is the way.  The only way.  No other way.  Will you still search for any other ways?  He said that He is the truth.  Therefore, we have to trust His words for they are truths.  And He is the life for He is the only one who can give us eternal life.  The Holy Spirit emphasized these. Eternal life in Heaven forever is our reward in believing in Jesus and following His commandments.

That is what you believe.  If it brings you peace and joy, then I am honestly happy for you.  I am an ex-Christian.  I had never found peace in your religion, I have never felt "spirtual" with your religion.  My point here is that yours is not the only way. Why can’t you leave those of us who have chosen to follow another path, one that we connect to and find meaning in, alone?     Because God loves you.  I love you.  The Holy Spirit wants to save your soul.

I don’t need to be "saved" by your standards or anyone else’s.  I am responsible for my own actions, I’ll deal with them.   He wants that you go to Heaven.  He wants you to come back to God.  He is searching for you like Jesus’ parable of the lost sheep.

Once again, these are your beliefs, I personally don’t think too highly of them, but I respect your right to believe it.  All I am asking is that you not preach to me about Christianity.  I know it, I lived it, and I didn’t like it. Period.     If you become a believer and follower of Jesus, it will be very easy for you to connect to other believers.  There are many Christian groups who will gladly take you in to their group.  And here, you will find meaning in your life, the purpose of life,

I already have meaning and purpose in my life.  I found it when I found my chosen path.  I was lost in yours, and wild horses couldn’t drag me back.  your place in the community among the children of God in His plan.  There is the reward that you look forward to.  You have that faith that you will be rewarded by Jesus in the afterlife.

My reward?  I won’t even go there… Why is it that, Christians in particular, seem to scream and shout that they are the only ones who know the truth?  Why is it that every where Christians go they try to convert people to their path?   History has shown that those people who have not convert are killed.  Doesn’t this go against what you believe?     Christians have found the truth, that is, Jesus.

You have found YOUR truth.  I don’t believe it.   And because of their enthusiasm and zeal in following the command of Jesus, and because of their love for their fellowmen to be saved as well, they go out to preach the gospel of Jesus as commanded by Jesus in Matthew 28:19, to wit as quoted from the Good News Bible: "Go, then, to all peoples everywhere and make them my disciples; baptize them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and teach them to obey everything I have commanded you.  And I will be with you always, to the end of the age."

Well, your zeal for your religion is most admirable, I admit.  However, I don’t need to have Bible thumpers knocking on my door at 7 pm,.  I know the Bible, it was shoved down my throat for 17 years.  Christian mythology doesn’t work for me (or a lot of people for that matter).  I don’t need you, or anyone else, trying to "save" me.     Maybe in the past, those who did not convert were killed by Christians.  Their conquest of land might have been mostly motivated by financial gain instead of spreading the gospel. But killing those who did not convert is not a hallmark of Christianity.

Let me see…the Crusades, the wiping out of Native American cultures (from Canada to South America), killing doctors who perform abortions, the list goes on and on.  Yes it is one of the hallmarks of Christianity. Don’t even get me started about the Burning Times.   Maybe some other religions.     You are right that it is against the Christian belief to kill his fellowmen.  Nowadays, Christians are winning souls not by conquest but by preaching.     When I present to you the messages, prophecies, sermons, prayers of the Holy Spirit found in my website below, I am not forcing you to believe them straight away.  Scrutinize them.  Study them.  Pick up what you think is good for you.

Like I’ve said, been there, done that, got the t-shirt.  None of it was good for me.  You know what I got out of it? I’m a woman, responsible for "original sin," should bow down to a husband, shouldn’t be allowed to "preach" my religion, not allowed to control my own body, etc.  My chosen path respects both the masculine and feminine.  One is not superior over the other.  That (and a lot of other reasons that I won’t go into detail here) makes Christianity, IMO, not the way, the "one true religion."   The decision is yours, not mine.  Your soul is the one who is at stake.  You are the one who is responsible to take care of it.

So don’t worry about it.  Don’t try to "save" me, it is not wanted, and not needed.     I just would like to tell you that in March 1999, the Holy Spirit instructed me and several others to tell people to change for the better now, to turn a new leaf in life, to be clean, to be good, to change wrong beliefs, to come back to God while there is still time.  These can only be done while the soul is still in the physical body.  When a person dies with unrepented sins, he cannot ask God for forgiveness anymore.  Repentence can only be done while the soul is still in the physical body.  So do it NOW for time is running fast.  So we better hurry up.

I don’t believe in your God, donot need to be saved.  I don’t need forgiveness from anyone. BTW-I don’t need your messeage in my e-mail. You ask people to respond to you by why of the newsgroup, have the same respect for others. Disandra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –     God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando

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Merry Meet Elizabeth. Maybe you be happy and enjoy your time here at ARW.

Thank you.  I hope to have some time later to participate in other discussions. Merry Meet and Merry Part (or as my 3 year old niece says, Merry Meet and Merry Party!)

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I guess this is what I get when I try to find somewhere to connect with people without Christianity being pushed into my face!  <g Questions To Fernando: Why is it that you think your path is the only way?  Why can’t you leave those of us who have chosen to follow another path, one that we connect to and find meaning in, alone?  Why is it that, Christians in particular, seem to scream and shout that they are the only ones who know the truth?  Why is it that every where Christians go they try to convert people to their path?  History has shown that those people who have not convert are killed.  Doesn’t this go against what you believe? So sorry about the rant, I’m just sick of having this religion forced on me where ever I go. To my fellow Pagans: nice to meet you all.  I hope to participate in other discussions here on this board. Merry Part, Disandra – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,    Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.    I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.    What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.  He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."    The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions.     So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."    Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.    The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.    There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the

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Hehehe Hi there Elizabeth. For some misguided reason, some idiots feel the need to descend from their self perceived moral high ground and descend into the hedonistic world of us heathens and drag us kicking and screaming into their *note sarcasm here* shining light. I get sick of them too but so long as we keep this an open forum then we pretty much have to put up with their ignorance and arrogance. Welcome to ARW which should be renamed alt.really.weird some days ;p~~

There are, unfortunately, those ‘heathens’ who are no better. They spend their energies attacking Christians with a bigoted enthusiasm that would get a Baptist’s head nodding in approval. Wonder where they aped that behaviour from? It certainly creates an endless and rather useless cycle of hate which solves no problems and ultimately makes many more. — Air muir ’s air tir, Sean of Clan Uisdin If anyone is looking for Sean of Clan Uisdin, he can be found in the bathtub mulling over his thoughts wi’ a dram o’ Glen Ord.                 … The heroes of the race of Conn are dead,                 How bitter to our hearts is the grief for them!                 We shall not live long after them,                 Perilous we think it to be bereaved of the brotherhood! Cathal MacMhuirich "Well, I’m sick of this room and everyone in it!" – Bender "Everything’s gone wrong since Canada came along!" – MAC (Mothers against Canada)

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Merry Meet Elizabeth. Maybe you be happy and enjoy your time here at ARW. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –

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– People that figure that they know everything really irritate those of us that do For a chuckle, check out http://www.homestead.com/wolfklan I guess this is what I get when I try to find somewhere to connect with people without Christianity being pushed into my face!  <g

Hehehe Hi there Elizabeth. For some misguided reason, some idiots feel the need to descend from their self perceived moral high ground and descend into the hedonistic world of us heathens and drag us kicking and screaming into their *note sarcasm here* shining light. I get sick of them too but so long as we keep this an open forum then we pretty much have to put up with their ignorance and arrogance. Welcome to ARW which should be renamed alt.really.weird some days ;p~~

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Jesus gives head to the Father, while being fucked up the ass by the Holy Ghost. That’s your sacred trinity! Caliban

Now, now, Calibanny… you’re going to traumatize the poor fellow… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,    Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.    I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.    What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God. He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."    The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions. So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."    Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.    The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.    There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.    So while there is still time, save your soul.  Believe in Jesus. Believe that a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed here on earth some 2000 years ago.  He is a historical figure so he existed before. He is not a myth.  And then believe also that Jesus Christ is God in human form.  The spirit of God dwelt in a human body who we call Jesus Christ.  Jesus said "I Am Who I Am’.  And that is the name of God–I Am Who I Am.    God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

– Eastward sat the crone in the Ironwood, who farrowed there, the brood of Fenrir, of their get shall be seen, a certain one… He shall glut his maw with the flesh of men, and bloody with the gore… Dark grows the sun, storms rage in summer, weather’s a widdershins. Before you buy.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,     Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.     I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.     What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.  He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."     The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.

This would be incorrect. Although Ehyeh is used interchangeably with Yahweh in Exodus 3:14-15, I do not know of anyone who transliterates Ehyeh asher Ehyeh as "Jehovah". This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters,

It is the tetragrammaton representing Yahweh, not Ehyeh asher Ehyeh, that is substituted by "the LORD" in most translations. following a usage which is widespread in English versions. So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."

This, of course, is not what Jesus said. John 8:23 kai elegen autois humeis ek twn katw AND HE WAS SAYING TO THEM YOU OUT OF THE (THINGS) BELOW 2532 3004 0846_93 4771_4 1537 3588 2736 este egw ek twn anw eimi humeis ek toutou YOU ARE, I OUT OF THE (THINGS) ABOVE I AM; YOU OUT OF THIS 1510_4 1473 1537 3588 0507 1510 4771_4 1537 3778_4 tou kosmou este egw ouk eimi ek tou kosmou toutou THE WORLD YOU ARE, I NOT AM OUT OF THE WORLD THIS. 3588 2889 1510_4 1473 3756 1510 1537 3588 2889 3778_4 John 8:24 eipon oun humin hoti apothaneisthe en tais I SAID THEREFORE TO YOU THAT YOU WILL DIE IN THE 1511_7 3767 4771_6 3754 0599 1722 3588 hamartiais humwn ean gar mee pisteuseete hoti SINS OF YOU; IF EVER FOR NOT YOU SHOULD BELIEVE THAT 0266 4771_5 1437 1063 3361 4100 3754 1437_2 egw eimi apothaneisthe en tais hamartiais humwn I AM, YOU WILL DIE IN THE SINS OF YOU. 1473 1510 0599 1722 3588 0266 4771_5 John 8:28 eipen oun ho ieesous hotan hupswseete ton SAID THEREFORE THE JESUS WHENEVER YOU SHOULD PUT HIGH UP THE 1511_7 3767 3588 2424 3752 5312 3588 huion tou anthrwpou tote gnwsesthe hoti egw eimi SON OF THE MAN, THEN YOU WILL KNOW THAT I AM, 5207 3588 0444 5119 1097 3754 1473 1510 kai ap emautou poiw ouden alla kathws AND FROM MYSELF I AM DOING NOTHING, BUT ACCORDING AS 2532 0575 1683 4160 3762 0235 2531 edidaxen me ho pateer tauta lalw TAUGHT ME THE FATHER THESE (THINGS) I AM SPEAKING. 1321 1473_6 3588 3962 3778_93 2980 Jesus certainly not saying that his name is Yahweh, who is his Father. And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."     Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?

Absolutely not!!! It certainly shows he is not his own Father, for he definitely denies such when he says he does nothing of his own authority. God Almighty does not have to instructed to say anything. The God and Father of our Lord Jesus is the God of Israel, who is one, Yahweh. Jesus is not Yahweh, his own Father, nor his own God [Supreme Being]. — Psalm 2:7,8 [John 1:14; Hebrews 1:5]; Psalm 83:18 [Luke 1:32]; [John 5:43]; Isaiah 54:13 [John 6:45]; Matthew 5:48 [Leviticus 11:44; 19:2]; John 8:54 [Exodus 20:5; 23:19; Deuteronomy 4:31; 5:9; 6:4...and a host of other scriptures]; 2 Samuel 7:8,11,12,14 [Psalm 132:11; Isaiah 9:6,7; 23:5; Hebrews 1:5; Luke 1:32]; Deuteronomy 6:4 [John 17:1,3; 1 Corinthians 8:4-6; Acts 2:36]; Psalm 118:26 & Deuteronomy 18:19 [Matthew 21:9; 23:39; Mark 11:9,10; Luke 13:35; 19:38; John 12:13; John 5:4; 12:49,50; 14:10,24; Acts 3:23].  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God,

Jesus denied he was God, his father, and said if the Jewish leaders to whom he was speaking did not believe he was from God his father above, then they would die in their sins. then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.     The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.

Thus he is not the Supreme Being {God}; if he were then we there would be no need for an intermediary. He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).

Thus he is not Yahweh the Father, the God of Israel. If he were how could we go through Yahweh, the God of Israel and the Father of Jesus, who would be Yahweh, the God of Israel and the father of Jesus, to get to Yahweh the God of Israel, and the Father of Jesus, who would be the God of Israel and the Father of Jesus, etc.????? So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.

His kingdom will destroy this order (kosmos) (even as Yahweh destroyed the kosmos in Noah’s day — 2 Peter 3:6), and replace upon this earth the new order of affairs, being ruled by Jesus and the church. — 2 Peter 3:7,13; Revelation 21:1-3. 2 Peter 3:6 di hwn ho tote kosmos hudati THROUGH WHICH (THINGS) THE THEN WORLD TO WATER 1223 3739 3588 5119 2889 5204 kataklustheis apwleto HAVING BEEN DELUGED WAS DESTROYED; 2626 0622 His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.     There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man,

Jesus is true theos — el, elohim – mighty one, made so by his father as the only-begotten god due to the power and authority given to Jesus by his Father Yahweh, that Yahweh may be glorified through Jesus. — Matthew 28:18; John 1:16; 3:35; 5:22,26,27,30,36; Acts 2:36; Philippians 1:11; 2:9-11 . http://reslight.addr.com/john20-28.html http://reslight.addr.com/heb1-8.html http://reslight.addr.com/john1.html He gave his flesh, his true humanity, for the life of the world. We need to accept by faith the ransom sacrifice of Jesus — the son of God, his shed blood on behalf us, in order to receive the firstfruits of the spirit before the world, which is to blessed by the afterfruits of the spirit and judged by Jesus and church during the millennial day. See: http://reslight.addr.com/course.html http://reslight.addr.com/dayjudg.html and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.

So what do you believe to be the fate of the billions of people who have died without accepting Jesus as "true God" and "true man", in the terms which you mean it? See: "The Restoration of All Things" http://reslight.addr.com/ Ronald

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Jesus gives head to the Father, while being fucked up the ass by the Holy Ghost. That’s your sacred trinity! Caliban – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – My Dear Fellowmen,    Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.    I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.    What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.  He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."    The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions.     So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."    Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.    The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.    There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.      So while there is still time, save your soul.  Believe in Jesus. Believe that a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed here on earth some 2000 years ago.  He is a historical figure so he existed before. He is not a myth.  And then believe also that Jesus Christ is God in human form.  The spirit of God dwelt in a human body who we call Jesus Christ.  Jesus said "I Am Who I Am’.  And that is the name of God–I Am Who I Am.    God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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He’s Horus, Hes us.  The ollah goolah goolah.  The Essence of the Essene.  Nuits eyes saw Chokmahs gaze. Ibis – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – ThankYEW, Fernando! My Dear Fellowmen,    Is Jesus Christ God in a human body or not?  This is one big bone of contention among Christians and non-Christians alike.    I believe that Jesus Christ is God Himself in a human body.  The Holy Spirit we talk to confirms this also.    What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.  He asked God what His name is that he would tell the Israelites.  God’s reply is in Exodus 3:14-15, to wit from the Good News Bible:  God said, "I am who I am.  This is what you must say to them: ‘The one who is called I AM has sent me to you.’  Tell the Israelits that I, the Lord, the God of their ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, have sent you to them.  This is my name for ever; this is what all future generations are to call me."    The footnote in the Good News Bible states "I am who I am…I AM: or I will be who I will be…I WILL BE.  "I am" sounds like the Hebrew name Yahweh, traditionally transliterated as Jehovah.  This name is represented in this translation (of the Bible) by "the LORD" in capital letters, following a usage which is widespread in English versions. So the name of God is "I Am Who I Am".  Do you know that Jesus said "I Am Who I Am"?  This can be found in John 8:24,28.  John 8:24 states: "That is why I told you that you will die in your sins.  And you will die in your sins if you do not believe that ‘I Am Who I Am’."  And John 8:28 states: "So he said to them, "When you lift up the Son of Man, you will know that ‘I Am Who I Am’: then you will know that I do nothing on my own authority, but I say only what the Father has instructed me to say."    Don’t these words of Jesus confirm that He is God (the Father) Himself?  Jesus said that if you do not believe that He is God, then you will die in your sins.  Why will you die in your sins?  Why?  Please express you views about this.    The only way to God (in Heaven) is through Jesus Christ.  He said that He is the way, the truth and the life.  No one goes to the Father except through Him (John 14:6).  So if you do not accept Him, you cannot enter His heavenly kingdom.  Remember, He said that this world is not His kingdom.  His is in the spiritual world.  That is where we will all go–to the spiritual world–because we are spirits.    There are only two requirements to go to Heaven: 1) Accept and believe that Jesus Christ is true God AND true man, and 2) Follow the commandments of Jesus Christ.  If you meet these requirements, you can go to Heaven no matter what your religious affiliation is.    So while there is still time, save your soul.  Believe in Jesus. Believe that a person by the name of Jesus Christ existed here on earth some 2000 years ago.  He is a historical figure so he existed before. He is not a myth.  And then believe also that Jesus Christ is God in human form.  The spirit of God dwelt in a human body who we call Jesus Christ.  Jesus said "I Am Who I Am’.  And that is the name of God–I Am Who I Am.    God bless us always. In Christ, with love, Aristeo Canlas Fernando, Peace Crusader http://www.geocities.com/peacecrusader888/ "If you have ears, then, listen to what the Spirit says to the churches!"  Rev. 2:7,11,17,29; 3:6,13,22 (Good News Bible)

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   What is the name of God?  Moses, at Mount Sinai, talked to God.

Moses was an Egyptian Pharaoh who was banished for attempting to convert the Kingdom to monotheism. The polytheistic Egyptians thought that rather monotheodious of him considering it was about technology and energetics and not anthropomorphic archetypes. Do you have an explanation for who the Brazen Serpent on the T Cross was and why he was to be looked on? Is this the same serpent that is in the jars held by Egyptian Godforms that are similar to Crookes Tubes? Why are you stuck on your simian circuits? Yer Pal BirdTribe — * Clowns, by their very nature, are attracted to any number of absurd realities * Artworks, games, keys – visit http://www.birdtribe.net/ your.domain.com and 50Mb, CGI and PHP, PostGreSQL and Linux Turbine Generator only $100.00 per year with no hidden fees – http://www.mosthost.net

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