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RR How long ago?  Are you affected by Seasonal Adjustment Disorder  (SAD)???? HAve you ever looked into it? Ironic Mn

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In article <20000822192718.28006.00000…@ng-fw1.aol.com>, ironi…@aol.com (IronicMn) wrote: > How long ago?  Are you affected by Seasonal Adjustment Disorder  (SAD)???? > HAve you ever looked into it? > Ironic Mn

I’ve heard about this certainly, but what I experience is not a disorder by any means.  It’s not a stimulus-response to the presence of certain features in nature.  It’s an expression of the heart, of a longing and desire for something it wants but that I cannot currently seem to provide. See, I want to feel these feelings; I *need* to feel them, to be in tune with the inner core of that intangible presence in all of us that defines our humanity. Sour or bad or sad feelings, even regularly occurring, are not always disorders.  They are the language of the heart.  In much the same way that you and I are communicating using English, my heart communicates with me through feeling, emotion, and innuendo. If I want to improve my emotional situation, I HAVE to listen. But if there’s one great thing about a discussion group like this, it’s that it brings people together, some of whom have already addressed things in the ways others are just now starting to do.  All of what I’ve said is certainly only the best I can do at this time.  I would love to hear if anyone else has tried what I’m trying, and found a deeper or better solution. Thanks, RR

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RR I am certainly not a Doctor and have no clue what a disorder is vs and regular feeling etc.  I have just heard and read about SAD and knwo that it is a seasonal thing for some people.  Since you said it happens like clockwork in the fall….. IronicMn

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Hi, IronichMn, Just weanted to wave hi and to say that I like your candid  approach to the ng and its members!:) I am a sucker for candid posters:):) Very pleased to meet you!:) Chloe  IronicMn (ironi…@aol.com) writes: > RR > I am certainly not a Doctor and have no clue what a disorder is vs and regular > feeling etc.  I have just heard and read about SAD and knwo that it is a > seasonal thing for some people.  Since you said it happens like clockwork in > the fall….. > IronicMn

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In article <20000823005409.13380.00000…@ng-fu1.aol.com>, ironi…@aol.com (IronicMn) wrote: > I am certainly not a Doctor and have no clue what a disorder is vs and regular > feeling etc.  I have just heard and read about SAD and knwo that it is a > seasonal thing for some people.  Since you said it happens like clockwork in > the fall….. > IronicMn

I definately appreciate your taking the time to respond. I may have a sensitive spot to drugs.  With my younger brother, and now a niece, I’m helping fight decisions to drug them both!  A sort of nervous jitter I guess, has been a feature of our family.  My brother had, and my younger niece has now been deemed to be "hyperactive" by their schools and attempts are now being made to start her on drugs for her "problem."  We won this battle with my brother several years back, but the forces for drugging kids into submission in school are quite strong now.  We may just end up taking her out of school for home schooling, or more likely transferring her into one of the local Catholic/Christian schools. It’s not a fun battle by any means, and things like these, being forced into something by people who know virtually nothing about what they’re doing, tend to provoke an angry response from me.  Hope I didn’t sound like I was upset for your response. Thanks, RR

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In article <lv10445-28FD19.07333723082…@news2.qx.net>, RR <lv10…@qx.net> wrote: > It’s not a fun battle by any means, and things like these, being > forced into something by people who know virtually nothing about what > they’re doing, tend to provoke an angry response from me.  Hope I > didn’t sound like I was upset for your response.

All right, I’m following up to my own post.  I feel like clarifying that of course I was not talking about you IronicMn when I mentioned people who know virtually nothing about what they’re doing hehe.  I was talking about some of the local school officials. I think I’ll just shut up for a while now.  That helps to keep my foot out of my mouth.  But thank you again for the time. RR

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I reminise about old loves too, but you know fact is you tend to forget the bad things. Like the other night I cried thinking about the one that got away…wondering why it ended up like it did. But you know fact is…she drove me insane! Then the list got longer….it went into details…and I was like oh yeah, I remember now…this and this and this. Society really puts a load of bullshit on us, then if you think otherwise you’re a cynic. But take a look around…really take a good hard look. Between all the divorces, the cheating, the neighbors fighting, the highschool friends who’ve been divorced twice, single parents, or the ones cheating on thier wives and the wives cheating on them…I’m thinking two words. Gated community haha I got a million of em. But no. Society can kiss my ass. I don’t feel guilty. I’m telling you right now. I’m single, I get lonely sometime but there is no way on gods green earth I would switch places with most of them. This is just my opionion…but fact is, all those people above thought the same thing when they all entered into that ultimate love. I have friends tell me what? you’re going to be a lonely old man. I say look what do you want? me to produce this story book? if so why the hell is so many people like above? I may end up lonely, but I could also end up old and miserable and dead! I don’t think I’m a cynic, but man I’m really tired of this Titanic crap ok. Look if I’ve known you a week and the boat is sinking, you better find yourself a life jacket because I’m grabbing the next lifeboat out. hehe you know….what if they had shown the real world…what if rose really ended up sleeping with some married guy a week after the sinking.  No sir. I’ve been on that ship before and learned my lesson. Next time that baby sinks I’m saving my own ass. Fact is your heart is yearning for something, everyones does! Mine does. But you know…all those people who end up divorced with kids, or constantly fighting, drinking, just waiting to die all had that yearning to and look where it got them. It’s not cynism, it’s the real world. I hear friends complain about thier life, Hell I complain about my life, but reality is with the snap of one finger I could have been born in some 3rd world country just waiting to recieve a machete through my head. Or could be married working 24/7 coming home to a wife who bitchs and moans 24/7 having horrendous fights. But its’ not. If I get sad, I think logically, snap out of it and go dam life is good…let me find something new to do. Just my opinion. 3DE078.00000223082…@news2.qx.net… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> In article <20000822192718.28006.00000…@ng-fw1.aol.com>, > ironi…@aol.com (IronicMn) wrote: > > How long ago?  Are you affected by Seasonal Adjustment Disorder (SAD)???? > > HAve you ever looked into it? > > Ironic Mn > I’ve heard about this certainly, but what I experience is not a > disorder by any means.  It’s not a stimulus-response to the presence > of certain features in nature.  It’s an expression of the heart, of a > longing and desire for something it wants but that I cannot currently > seem to provide. > See, I want to feel these feelings; I *need* to feel them, to be in > tune with the inner core of that intangible presence in all of us that > defines our humanity. > Sour or bad or sad feelings, even regularly occurring, are not always > disorders.  They are the language of the heart.  In much the same way > that you and I are communicating using English, my heart communicates > with me through feeling, emotion, and innuendo. > If I want to improve my emotional situation, I HAVE to listen. > But if there’s one great thing about a discussion group like this, > it’s that it brings people together, some of whom have already > addressed things in the ways others are just now starting to do.  All > of what I’ve said is certainly only the best I can do at this time.  I > would love to hear if anyone else has tried what I’m trying, and found > a deeper or better solution. > Thanks, > RR

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IronicMn (or can I call you Imn for short?;-) I am reposting this as I read that you were looking for a post that was erased where you said someone wrote to say they found your posts "real". Since I wrote that I found your posts and approach "candid", which to me is "real" too, I then wondered if it could be my post you looked for. In case, here is that post of mine to you, reposted below, so you can better know if this is the one you would be looking for. If not, no problemoses:), Chloe  Eleonore – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -Beaudoin (bc…@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes: > Hi, IronichMn, > Just weanted to wave hi and to say that I like your candid  approach > to the ng and its members!:) > I am a sucker for candid posters:):) > Very pleased to meet you!:) > Chloe >  IronicMn (ironi…@aol.com) writes: >> RR >> I am certainly not a Doctor and have no clue what a disorder is vs and regular >> feeling etc.  I have just heard and read about SAD and knwo that it is a >> seasonal thing for some people.  Since you said it happens like clockwork in >> the fall….. >> IronicMn > —

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Hello, again, Hello! Just Posted to say Hello (am I dating myself by reffering to a Niel Diamond song?) Yes it was you Chlo, and yes you can call me the I-man. Nice to meet ya, IronicMn

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Certain feelings seem to affect me most acutely as the fall season approaches. I remember driving by her house around this time, and looking up through the trees noticing how the sunlight trickling through them at a strange angle, and hearing for the first time in a long while, the crunching of leaves as they blew by.  Perhaps I knew that school was about to start again, and that THIS TIME I was going to change things for us.  Yes I knew as sure as the world that I could fix things, and thanks to our high school for putting her and me into the same classrooms together, presenting me all the opportunity I could ask for, to interact with her and CHANGE things for the better. I drove off with a smile, knowing that life was on an upswing. Obviously high school is long gone for me, as is she, and the raw feelings for her have since tempered.  But the presence of stronger emotion at this time of year is still an ever present part of me.   And, sadly I guess, the timbre of the emotion has changed, from one of excitement with a smile, to a sense of regret, or of times gone by that can never again be reclaimed, or maybe even that a piece of me, that vigor and desire for someone, is something I will never again experience.  For it was such pleasant fun, buying roses, passing folded notes back and forth, the smiles and the flirting and companionship.  I carry these memories around with me now, in the background, and wonder if they’ll ever again be a motivating part of me. Sometimes I might even feel a little bit old.  Regrets really make "age" set in hard.  If only I knew then what I know now. RR

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